Mon Mar 24, 2014, 10:06 PM
MannyGoldstein (34,589 posts)
No, Moonbats, it's NOT about YOU
So President Obama will be calling for an end to the collection of everyone's phone records.
Some of Those On The Left will attempt to take credit for this. They'll say "Oooh, but the President's continually defended this practice! Only because we whined and complained like spoiled toddlers did he stop this violation of our Constitution! Yay, we win!!!" No, you didn't win. Look, people: President Obama never, ever defended spying on every American before it was made public by Comrade Eddie Snowden. Not once. It was all Moscow Eddie's fault that the President had to defend this practice, that he never, ever wanted to defend in public. Having to defend this plan in public has been very, very troubling for him. So the President will simply be doing what he's always wanted to do: end the program, as far as the public knows. So Liberals: suck it up. You had nothing whatsoever to do with this and it's not a victory. You are still a miniscule and puny fringe group, incapable of changing anything. Other than, of course, ruining Democratic election chances by your vast numbers staying away from the polls in a humongous, nation-crushing pout. So you get nothing. No credit. None. Sweet dreams, Third-Way Manny
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MannyGoldstein | Mar 2014 | OP |
Adam051188 | Mar 2014 | #1 | |
Electric Monk | Mar 2014 | #2 | |
BainsBane | Mar 2014 | #12 | |
Number23 | Mar 2014 | #13 | |
sheshe2 | Mar 2014 | #15 | |
MannyGoldstein | Mar 2014 | #16 | |
Ohio Joe | Mar 2014 | #39 | |
Cali_Democrat | Mar 2014 | #3 | |
Electric Monk | Mar 2014 | #4 | |
MannyGoldstein | Mar 2014 | #5 | |
grasswire | Mar 2014 | #27 | |
sheshe2 | Mar 2014 | #6 | |
MannyGoldstein | Mar 2014 | #11 | |
awoke_in_2003 | Mar 2014 | #23 | |
Aerows | Mar 2014 | #7 | |
blue neen | Mar 2014 | #8 | |
AverageJoe90 | Mar 2014 | #9 | |
WillyT | Mar 2014 | #10 | |
pa28 | Mar 2014 | #14 | |
MannyGoldstein | Mar 2014 | #33 | |
Hissyspit | Mar 2014 | #17 | |
MannyGoldstein | Mar 2014 | #19 | |
nashville_brook | Mar 2014 | #59 | |
Scootaloo | Mar 2014 | #26 | |
grasswire | Mar 2014 | #28 | |
rhett o rick | Mar 2014 | #18 | |
MannyGoldstein | Mar 2014 | #20 | |
rhett o rick | Mar 2014 | #21 | |
MindMover | Mar 2014 | #22 | |
PBass | Mar 2014 | #24 | |
DeSwiss | Mar 2014 | #25 | |
Blue_Tires | Mar 2014 | #29 | |
Scuba | Mar 2014 | #30 | |
xchrom | Mar 2014 | #31 | |
SidDithers | Mar 2014 | #32 | |
JoePhilly | Mar 2014 | #35 | |
JoePhilly | Mar 2014 | #34 | |
Rex | Mar 2014 | #36 | |
Orsino | Mar 2014 | #37 | |
whatchamacallit | Mar 2014 | #38 | |
ProSense | Mar 2014 | #40 | |
lumpy | Mar 2014 | #53 | |
QC | Mar 2014 | #41 | |
CJCRANE | Mar 2014 | #42 | |
uponit7771 | Mar 2014 | #44 | |
CJCRANE | Mar 2014 | #45 | |
Electric Monk | Mar 2014 | #46 | |
bvar22 | Mar 2014 | #49 | |
msanthrope | Mar 2014 | #48 | |
LordGlenconner | Mar 2014 | #50 | |
fascisthunter | Mar 2014 | #54 | |
CJCRANE | Mar 2014 | #56 | |
MannyGoldstein | Mar 2014 | #57 | |
CJCRANE | Mar 2014 | #58 | |
Fumesucker | Mar 2014 | #55 | |
uponit7771 | Mar 2014 | #43 | |
el_bryanto | Mar 2014 | #47 | |
Skidmore | Mar 2014 | #51 | |
mike_c | Mar 2014 | #52 |
Response to MannyGoldstein (Original post)
Adam051188 This message was self-deleted by its author.
Response to MannyGoldstein (Original post)
Mon Mar 24, 2014, 10:16 PM
Electric Monk (13,869 posts)
2. Some people don't get your sense of humor, but I rather enjoy it.
In case you missed it, here's a nice recent 'toon from Ted Rall.
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Response to Electric Monk (Reply #2)
Mon Mar 24, 2014, 10:57 PM
BainsBane (52,330 posts)
12. I get it
That's the problem.
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Response to BainsBane (Reply #12)
Mon Mar 24, 2014, 11:09 PM
Number23 (24,544 posts)
13. For real. What's not to get?
Mr. Scorpio posted a textbook definition of the OP and his crew here http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1187&pid=5878
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Response to Number23 (Reply #13)
Mon Mar 24, 2014, 11:24 PM
sheshe2 (77,621 posts)
15. Sorry I missed that one.
Thanks for the link!
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Response to Number23 (Reply #13)
Mon Mar 24, 2014, 11:25 PM
MannyGoldstein (34,589 posts)
16. Indeed!
Response to Electric Monk (Reply #2)
Tue Mar 25, 2014, 01:00 PM
Ohio Joe (20,381 posts)
39. It's fuckin hysterical...
Every day we get another bashing of the President with never a single acknowledgement of anything.... Never a single word of support for anything D, only the continued assault... Manny is a hero at the cave and other DU bashing sites.
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Response to MannyGoldstein (Original post)
Mon Mar 24, 2014, 10:18 PM
Cali_Democrat (30,439 posts)
3. Remember, it's not about Snowden. nt
Response to Cali_Democrat (Reply #3)
Mon Mar 24, 2014, 10:23 PM
Electric Monk (13,869 posts)
4. Ah, that's old, and privacy has always been overrated, anyway
Response to Cali_Democrat (Reply #3)
Mon Mar 24, 2014, 10:29 PM
MannyGoldstein (34,589 posts)
5. It's all Snowden's fault.
If it weren't for Snowden, the President wouldn't have to defend this program in public.
Snowden needs to be Chelsea Manninged ASAP! Regards, TWM |
Response to MannyGoldstein (Reply #5)
Tue Mar 25, 2014, 12:45 AM
grasswire (50,130 posts)
27. He is, thanks to Mike Rogers. nt
Response to MannyGoldstein (Original post)
Mon Mar 24, 2014, 10:31 PM
sheshe2 (77,621 posts)
6. Manny, you have a phone call~
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Response to sheshe2 (Reply #6)
Mon Mar 24, 2014, 10:55 PM
MannyGoldstein (34,589 posts)
11. Get Smart is one of my all-time favorite shows!
Buck Henry and Mel Brooks.
Unbelievably good stuff. |
Response to MannyGoldstein (Reply #11)
Tue Mar 25, 2014, 12:11 AM
awoke_in_2003 (34,582 posts)
23. Mel Brooks was part of Get Smart?
Now I know why I liked it.
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Response to MannyGoldstein (Original post)
Mon Mar 24, 2014, 10:31 PM
Aerows (39,961 posts)
7. Obama is a hero of privacy!
n/t
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Response to MannyGoldstein (Original post)
Mon Mar 24, 2014, 10:33 PM
blue neen (12,008 posts)
8. You're shouting.
n/t.
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Response to MannyGoldstein (Original post)
Mon Mar 24, 2014, 10:34 PM
AverageJoe90 (10,745 posts)
9. You forgot to add something, Manny.
Something about (literal) "white privilege" or "Obama is Bush Lite" woulda driven your point home.....not that you had one to begin with, anyway.
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Response to MannyGoldstein (Original post)
Mon Mar 24, 2014, 10:41 PM
WillyT (72,631 posts)
10. Which Is It Manny... miniscule, or puny fringe group... And I Demand EVIDENCE !!!
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Response to MannyGoldstein (Original post)
Mon Mar 24, 2014, 11:10 PM
pa28 (6,145 posts)
14. I would like to extend a huge thank you to Ed Snowden.
We need to look into the fine print of President Obama's proposal but it seems like a win for those who have opposed the legalized surveillance state we currently live in.
No F*ckin way it would have happened without Ed (unfriendly to his neighbors) Snowden and now it's time to recognize he pointed out a wrong in the system. Give the man an immunity deal and bring him home. ![]() |
Response to MannyGoldstein (Original post)
Mon Mar 24, 2014, 11:33 PM
Hissyspit (45,788 posts)
17. I, myself, think that it is great that Obama is doing this, this thing no Republican President would
have ever done, curtailing the unconstitutional behavior of the NSA as revealed by Edward Snowden which Snowden never should have done so that Obama wouldn't have to do this great thing that no Republican President would ever do in response to Snowden doing that thing he never should have done.
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Response to Hissyspit (Reply #17)
Mon Mar 24, 2014, 11:37 PM
MannyGoldstein (34,589 posts)
19. Only by destroying privacy can we save privacy
Truly, it is a chess game of many, many dimensions.
Checkmate, Liberals! |
Response to MannyGoldstein (Reply #19)
Tue Mar 25, 2014, 05:52 PM
nashville_brook (20,958 posts)
59. spit Coke Zero on keyboard.
Response to Hissyspit (Reply #17)
Tue Mar 25, 2014, 12:34 AM
Scootaloo (25,699 posts)
26. Thirteen-dimensional chess, as interpreted by M.C. Escher.
I love it.
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Response to Scootaloo (Reply #26)
Tue Mar 25, 2014, 12:47 AM
grasswire (50,130 posts)
28. or mebbe Edward Gorey. nt
Response to MannyGoldstein (Original post)
Mon Mar 24, 2014, 11:34 PM
rhett o rick (55,981 posts)
18. The NSA was behaving itself until "Eddie" came along. It's all his fault.
By the way, if Booz Allen Hamilton cant do a better job of keeping some nitwit like Eddie from stealing all our data, maybe we need a different contractor.
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Response to rhett o rick (Reply #18)
Mon Mar 24, 2014, 11:39 PM
MannyGoldstein (34,589 posts)
20. The quantum theory of Spy On Everyone
Only while we observe it does it exist.
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Response to MannyGoldstein (Reply #20)
Mon Mar 24, 2014, 11:42 PM
rhett o rick (55,981 posts)
21. So best we close our eyes.
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Response to MannyGoldstein (Original post)
Mon Mar 24, 2014, 11:46 PM
MindMover (5,016 posts)
22. More importantly the people will not hear what really happened ...
and the people responsible are still on the merry go round ...
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Response to MannyGoldstein (Original post)
Tue Mar 25, 2014, 12:29 AM
PBass (1,537 posts)
24. Third-Way Manny seems to specialize in trolling and "Rage Bait"
Maybe I don't appreciate his type of comedy. I only stop by here occasionally, so maybe that's why I'm not as impressed with Manny as he seems to be with himself.
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Response to MannyGoldstein (Original post)
Tue Mar 25, 2014, 12:30 AM
DeSwiss (27,137 posts)
25. ''Moscow Eddie''
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Response to MannyGoldstein (Original post)
Tue Mar 25, 2014, 12:53 AM
Blue_Tires (55,445 posts)
29. Well, look at the bright side
Now Glenn Greenwald and his circle can devote all their energies to investigating privacy rights abuses in Brazil and Russia!
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Response to MannyGoldstein (Original post)
Tue Mar 25, 2014, 06:22 AM
Scuba (53,475 posts)
30. You just keep getting better and better.
Response to MannyGoldstein (Original post)
Tue Mar 25, 2014, 06:30 AM
SidDithers (44,228 posts)
32. Right, Manny. We all know that it's all about you...nt
Sid
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Response to SidDithers (Reply #32)
Tue Mar 25, 2014, 12:38 PM
JoePhilly (27,787 posts)
35. Another Manufactured Outrage topic is heading to its death bed.
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Response to MannyGoldstein (Original post)
Tue Mar 25, 2014, 12:34 PM
JoePhilly (27,787 posts)
34. Thanks Putin!!!
Response to MannyGoldstein (Original post)
Tue Mar 25, 2014, 12:47 PM
Rex (65,616 posts)
36. Of course we had nothing to do with it! This is all Moscow Eddies fault!
Moscow Eddie just gave Russia's dictator the ability to sidestep all our human intel! Liberals only complained about the NSA spying on everyone, we didn't want him to give our secrets away to the enemy! That was just WRONG.
I guess that doesn't make it into your post...might be fair and balanced. |
Response to MannyGoldstein (Original post)
Tue Mar 25, 2014, 12:51 PM
Orsino (37,428 posts)
37. We get credit.
But only for helping to force him to talk hypothetically about possibly ending some aspects of data collection at some indefinite point in the future. In true Democratic style, I propose we celebrate and then forget about it for a few more months.
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Response to MannyGoldstein (Original post)
Tue Mar 25, 2014, 01:00 PM
whatchamacallit (15,558 posts)
38. Lol K&R n/t
Response to MannyGoldstein (Original post)
Tue Mar 25, 2014, 01:06 PM
ProSense (116,464 posts)
40. Did you see this
opinion on "Comrade Eddie Snowden," aka "Moscow Eddie":
Carter: Snowden's leaks 'good for Americans to know'
Susan Page NEW YORK -- Former president Jimmy Carter defended the disclosures by fugitive NSA contractor Edward Snowden on Monday, saying revelations that U.S. intelligence agencies were collecting meta-data of Americans' phone calls and e-mails have been "probably constructive in the long run." <...> Does he view Snowden, now granted asylum in Russia, as a hero or a traitor? "There's no doubt that he broke the law and that he would be susceptible, in my opinion, to prosecution if he came back here under the law," he said. "But I think it's good for Americans to know the kinds of things that have been revealed by him and others -- and that is that since 9/11 we've gone too far in intrusion on the privacy that Americans ought to enjoy as a right of citizenship." Carter cautioned that he didn't have information about whether some of the disclosures "may have hurt our security or individuals that work in security," adding, "If I knew that, then I may feel differently." And he said Snowden shouldn't be immune from prosecution for his actions. "I think it's inevitable that he should be prosecuted and I think he would be prosecuted" if he returned to the United States, the former president said. "But I don't think he ought to be executed as a traitor or any kind of extreme punishment like that." - more - http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2014/03/24/usa-today-capital-download-jimmy-carter-edward-snowden-probably-constructive/6822425/ http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024718889 |
Response to ProSense (Reply #40)
Tue Mar 25, 2014, 02:44 PM
lumpy (13,704 posts)
53. I am with Jimmy Carter; If Snowden returns he should be prosecuted under the law but not
executed as a traitor. A few years in a comfortable prison might deter others from thinking they can skirt the law.
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Response to MannyGoldstein (Original post)
Tue Mar 25, 2014, 01:14 PM
QC (26,371 posts)
41. You're a meanie!!!
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Response to MannyGoldstein (Original post)
Tue Mar 25, 2014, 01:19 PM
CJCRANE (18,184 posts)
42. "Moonbats"!? That's an old freeper term.
It's the opposite of a wingnut.
They used to call us that back in the Bush years. You're really reaching back for the insults. |
Response to uponit7771 (Reply #44)
Tue Mar 25, 2014, 01:30 PM
CJCRANE (18,184 posts)
45. It's an interesting "tell".
No DUer ever called another DUer a "moonbat".
That term was used by freepers against us, just like "libtard". In fact I think they were the freepers' retaliation for DUers calling them "wingnuts" and "freeptards". Both terms of course have gone out of fashion here, especially since the rise of the Tea Party. |
Response to CJCRANE (Reply #45)
Tue Mar 25, 2014, 02:15 PM
Electric Monk (13,869 posts)
46. Conservative Jones and Moonbat McWacky are recurring characters in This Modern World, also
Conservative Jones and Moonbat McWacky
Conservative Jones and Moonbat McWacky are two children used in the strip to satirize conservative talking points. Conservative, who is dressed as a detective, asks Moonbat questions about politics. Moonbat gives reasonable answers, which the Conservative turns into illogical statements about liberals. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/This_Modern_World It's called SATIRE, people... |
Response to Electric Monk (Reply #46)
Tue Mar 25, 2014, 02:30 PM
bvar22 (39,909 posts)
49. The desperate grasping at straws...
...is funnier than Manny's OP.
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Response to CJCRANE (Reply #45)
Tue Mar 25, 2014, 02:30 PM
msanthrope (37,549 posts)
48. Isn't it interesting??? Check this one out......
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=4339715
That exchange is rather telling, no? |
Response to CJCRANE (Reply #45)
Tue Mar 25, 2014, 02:33 PM
LordGlenconner (1,348 posts)
50. I call RWers moonbats all the time
Though it's usually in the context of "religious moonbat".
I think Manny is a one-trick pony (eye roll inducing shtick is not my thing) and I disagree with him on the President vehemently but he doesn't seem like a DL conservative to me. |
Response to CJCRANE (Reply #45)
Tue Mar 25, 2014, 02:48 PM
fascisthunter (29,381 posts)
54. Geez, If You Keep Implying he's a Right Winger
maybe, just maybe you will be successful in getting him banned.
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Response to fascisthunter (Reply #54)
Tue Mar 25, 2014, 04:01 PM
CJCRANE (18,184 posts)
56. I think some of his posts are deliberately divisive.
It's up to him and other posters whether they agree with me.
I'm just a single DUer. My opinions are my own and no one else's. I don't know any other DUers. Long-time DUers are aware of the funny names and nicknames we've used over the years and our tradional rivalry with FR and I pointed that out because it's something I noticed. |
Response to CJCRANE (Reply #45)
Tue Mar 25, 2014, 05:37 PM
MannyGoldstein (34,589 posts)
57. You *do* realize that I'm Tagg Romney, don't you?
I outed myself some time ago.
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Response to MannyGoldstein (Reply #57)
Tue Mar 25, 2014, 05:42 PM
CJCRANE (18,184 posts)
58. But that can't be, because...
*Pulls off CJCRANE mask*
I'M TAGG ROMNEY!!111!!! ![]() |
Response to MannyGoldstein (Original post)
Tue Mar 25, 2014, 01:24 PM
uponit7771 (88,338 posts)
43. Yeah Manny, Jimmy Carter sucks too!!! IE leaving mannys strawman argument out of the equation Carter
...is an asshole too
P.S. Carter is not an asshole |
Response to MannyGoldstein (Original post)
Tue Mar 25, 2014, 02:26 PM
el_bryanto (11,804 posts)
47. That's energizing. nt
Response to MannyGoldstein (Original post)
Tue Mar 25, 2014, 02:34 PM
Skidmore (37,364 posts)
51. Glanced at and trashcanned for
predicability of vapors and reactive bs.
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Response to MannyGoldstein (Original post)
Tue Mar 25, 2014, 02:35 PM
mike_c (35,315 posts)
52. I see what you did there, Third-Way Manny....
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