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Tx4obama

(36,974 posts)
Fri Mar 28, 2014, 05:58 PM Mar 2014

Teen Discovers Gov't Could Save $400M a Year by Not Using Times New Roman


Teen Discovers Gov’t Could Save $400M a Year by Not Using Times New Roman

This is the one and only time it literally pays off to be a typeface snob: a sixth-grader’s science fair project revealed that the government could save up to $400 million a year on ink, by simply switching the fonts it uses.

Suvir Mirchandani, a 14-year old student from Pittsburg, was trying to come up with creative ways for his school district to save money when he realized that printer ink is hella expensive. “Ink is two times more expensive than French perfume by volume,” he told CNN, which is actually true. (It’s even more expensive than fine champagne.) After analyzing a random sample of school printouts and measuring how much ink various fonts use, Mirchandani discovered that by simply switching from Times New Roman to the thin-stroke Garamond, his district alone would cut down their annual ink costs by 24%, “and in turn save as much as $21,000 annually.”

Seeing the astounding results, Mirchandani’s teacher encouraged him to submit his work to the Harvard-based Journal for Emerging Investigators, who were highly impressed by Mirchandani’s work and wanted him to think bigger: how much money, they asked, would the federal government save if they switched over to Garamond?

Using the Government Services Administration’s estimated annual cost of ink — $467 million — Suvir concluded that if the federal government used Garamond exclusively it could save nearly 30% — or $136 million per year. An additional $234 million could be saved annually if state governments also jumped on board, he reported.

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More here: http://www.mediaite.com/print/teen-discovers-govt-could-save-400m-a-year-by-not-using-times-new-roman/

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Teen Discovers Gov't Could Save $400M a Year by Not Using Times New Roman (Original Post) Tx4obama Mar 2014 OP
I always liked Garamond better the TNR anyway. Liberal Veteran Mar 2014 #1
Garamond is generally considered the most "readable" serif font when printed. Xithras Mar 2014 #5
I think Garamond is prettier, but less readable frazzled Mar 2014 #12
Most people think it's prettier and more legible on paper. Xithras Mar 2014 #15
Keep font based education out of the schools!!! underpants Mar 2014 #2
US governments waste so much money. bigwillq Mar 2014 #3
Interesting gratuitous Mar 2014 #4
eco fonts mikemcl350 Mar 2014 #6
Hadn't heard about that. Thanks nt okaawhatever Mar 2014 #10
All Govt fonts should be in comic sans. JaneyVee Mar 2014 #7
I put hidden messages in my emails using WingDings font or something else. randome Mar 2014 #9
Just mailings from Republican congressmen, please jmowreader Mar 2014 #36
Pretty smart kid Travis_0004 Mar 2014 #8
I love Garamond. It's elegant and readable. Manifestor_of_Light Mar 2014 #11
My resume has been in Garamond since I've had a resume TroglodyteScholar Mar 2014 #31
Smart kids rock! n/t etherealtruth Mar 2014 #13
There was a bit of a scandal with the latest Sibley guide to birds XemaSab Mar 2014 #14
. rug Mar 2014 #16
so it's liberal, then, and congress will oppose any effort to switch. certainot Mar 2014 #30
The real WTF is that they're printing with inkjets and buying cartridges at retail prices pffshht Mar 2014 #17
Yeah really! I wonder why they aren't using high volume laser printers? Initech Mar 2014 #18
I suspect there are some flaws in this kid's assumptions. IronLionZion Mar 2014 #23
I don't know about the rest of the government but while on shore duty Revanchist Mar 2014 #32
This kid is not the first to figure this out. vanlassie Mar 2014 #19
We were mandated to use an ink saving font years ago Live and Learn Mar 2014 #29
Wait until they discover paperless communication LittleBlue Mar 2014 #20
Modern font would save much more than Garamond. JEFF9K Mar 2014 #21
meanwhile, we could all go blind, knowing we saved so much money Demeter Mar 2014 #22
Morse code is even cheaper. Helen Borg Mar 2014 #24
clever idea - sometimes the most obvious are the hardest to see tomm2thumbs Mar 2014 #25
I bet the govt. could save even more using a sans-serif font blogslut Mar 2014 #26
New Times Roman now, New Times Roman forever! DRoseDARs Mar 2014 #27
The only time I don't use TNR... awoke_in_2003 Mar 2014 #33
Give the fool Comic Sans. Hear him squeal in anguish. nt DRoseDARs Mar 2014 #39
I enjoy using all sorts of fonts adieu Mar 2014 #28
Best ampersand ever: Garamond n/t Little_Wing Mar 2014 #34
Comic sans 4 life LostOne4Ever Mar 2014 #35
The only time I ever use TNR is when deafskeptic Mar 2014 #37
Sounds five orders of magnitude high. Octafish Mar 2014 #38

Xithras

(16,191 posts)
5. Garamond is generally considered the most "readable" serif font when printed.
Fri Mar 28, 2014, 06:17 PM
Mar 2014

TNR has been around a long time and has been widely used in printed work for the better part of a century. It's current ubiquity in the desktop publishing world is largely due to the fact that Microsoft, Apple, and Adobe selected it as the default system and serif fonts back when its heavier strokes made it more legible on early low-resolution computer monitors. Garamond was hard to read back in the EGA/VGA monitor days.

frazzled

(18,402 posts)
12. I think Garamond is prettier, but less readable
Fri Mar 28, 2014, 06:40 PM
Mar 2014

Garamond has, at least in the display fonts one uses on a computer, rather loose kerning, and the tracking is wide. Unless you adjust these features (deep in the bowels of Word--it used to be more upfront), it is rather strung out visually. And it's "weight" is lighter.

Times New Roman, which I kind of hate but always use for my work because I can catch details and errors more readily, has more variation in thicknesses, with lighter and heavier areas. Boring, somewhat ugly, but necessary for what I do in general.

Xithras

(16,191 posts)
15. Most people think it's prettier and more legible on paper.
Fri Mar 28, 2014, 06:55 PM
Mar 2014

But, yes, it's imperfect.

Garamond is an elegant and easy to read typeface for the printed world. Times New Roman is the practical but unrefined alternative that works just about anywhere.

Generally, if I'm creating a document that will be primarily viewed in print, I'll use Garamond. If I'm creating a document that will be primarily viewed on a screen, I'll use Georgia. If I don't give a damn, or if I need something that will work equally well in both, I'll bite my tongue and use TNR.

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
4. Interesting
Fri Mar 28, 2014, 06:14 PM
Mar 2014

But how does the wispier Garamond type face hold up through multiple photocopyings or faxings? I realize that those procedures are going the way of the hoop skirt and the buggy whip, but documents are still being printed on paper, getting photocopied and faxed. And we are talking about printing here. Does Garamond retain its legibility like Times New Roman? If so, great. But if a document becomes illegible after being faxed or copied a time or two, we might be penny-wise (ink costs) and pound foolish (printing costs) to make the change.

mikemcl350

(10 posts)
6. eco fonts
Fri Mar 28, 2014, 06:17 PM
Mar 2014

there are free "Eco - fonts " that make microscopic holes in the font to save ink, up to 28% they claim, un-noticeable to the eye just on the wallet!

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
9. I put hidden messages in my emails using WingDings font or something else.
Fri Mar 28, 2014, 06:32 PM
Mar 2014

Some recipients are 'clever' enough -and curious enough- to translate. Most are not.
[hr][font color="blue"][center]If you don't give yourself the same benefit of a doubt you'd give anyone else, you're cheating someone.[/center][/font][hr]

 

Travis_0004

(5,417 posts)
8. Pretty smart kid
Fri Mar 28, 2014, 06:31 PM
Mar 2014

I think its sad that the GPO pretty much just blew him off, saying their plan is to switch to web content. That is a fine plan, but why not do both. I realize can't just switch overnight, but do a bit more research, switch a small department, and give it a try.

XemaSab

(60,212 posts)
14. There was a bit of a scandal with the latest Sibley guide to birds
Fri Mar 28, 2014, 06:50 PM
Mar 2014

For the second edition, the publisher picked this tiny sans-serif font that a lot of people found REALLY hard to read.

I wonder if it was to save on the cost of ink.

pffshht

(79 posts)
17. The real WTF is that they're printing with inkjets and buying cartridges at retail prices
Fri Mar 28, 2014, 07:32 PM
Mar 2014

If that is really the case.
Instead of switching fonts, they need to switch to laser printers.

You could make your own toner out of burnt $1 bills and it would still be cheaper than an inkjet.



IronLionZion

(45,427 posts)
23. I suspect there are some flaws in this kid's assumptions.
Fri Mar 28, 2014, 08:15 PM
Mar 2014


Any enterprise would purchase the toner in bulk at far below retail prices, even a small shop would do so. And the toner cartridges can be refilled.

And on a related note, I have years of experience with federal gov. and we can often use Arial or TNR, in fact I would default to Arial since I like it better. I've seen official docs in Garamond and Calibri too.

Revanchist

(1,375 posts)
32. I don't know about the rest of the government but while on shore duty
Fri Mar 28, 2014, 09:01 PM
Mar 2014

we had a contract that covered all aspect of computer and IT maintenance. We weren't even allowed to change the toner cartridges ourselves, we had to put in a service call. I'm afraid to find out what we were charged for a cartridge.

Live and Learn

(12,769 posts)
29. We were mandated to use an ink saving font years ago
Fri Mar 28, 2014, 08:52 PM
Mar 2014

in our local government office. We also use high volume laser printers and limit color printing. The biggest waste of money, government is guilty of is the money it spends on private contractors for shoddy work.

 

Demeter

(85,373 posts)
22. meanwhile, we could all go blind, knowing we saved so much money
Fri Mar 28, 2014, 08:01 PM
Mar 2014

Sorry, but there's economizing, and then there's CHEAP!

 

DRoseDARs

(6,810 posts)
27. New Times Roman now, New Times Roman forever!
Fri Mar 28, 2014, 08:33 PM
Mar 2014

I refuse to mingle with the hoi polloi of lesser fonts.

 

adieu

(1,009 posts)
28. I enjoy using all sorts of fonts
Fri Mar 28, 2014, 08:39 PM
Mar 2014

I rarely ever printing anything out except those that are absolutely necessary to be printed. If I can just fill out a PDF and email that back, I would, instead of printing and then faxing or mailing the completed document.

Of course, the government can't do that because there's a need to maintain an honest paper trail.

deafskeptic

(463 posts)
37. The only time I ever use TNR is when
Fri Mar 28, 2014, 11:52 PM
Mar 2014

I want to give my printed documents an old fashioned flavor.

I will have to remember this so I can save money on ink.

Octafish

(55,745 posts)
38. Sounds five orders of magnitude high.
Sat Mar 29, 2014, 12:52 AM
Mar 2014

$40,000, maybe.

Half a billion, no way.

Harvard's really gone downhill.

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