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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsSo much more that Obama should have done! Such a disappointment!
Let's start with healthcare, obviously. For all the benefits of the ACA, Obama has totally failed us on at least two fronts: (1) the lack of a public option, which would keep private ensurers honest by essentially forcing them to compete with something similar to medicare and (2) the ability of states to opt out of the Medicare Expansion, which is the source of the most of the (few) legitimate cases of people not well served by ACA, as opposed to people on FOX News/DU who hate Obama so much that they don't even bother doing any research before declaring that ACA ruined their lives.
OK, how about economic policy. Well, we all know Obama is a president for the 1%, which is why, for example, he has failed to raise the minimum wage. And he has also failed to pass the Buffett Rule, which would ensure that the 1%ers aren't able to loophole themselves down to a lower effective tax rate than the working class.
And then there are jobs initiatives. How about a bill to bolster domestic and infrastructure spending and also put more people to work? Or a bill to stop rewarding companies for shipping jobs overseas, but rather give them tax incentives to hire here in the US. Hello, Mr Obama, are you listening?
How great would it be if Obama passed a universal pro-K education program, funded primarily by closing loopholes for corporations and 1%ers? Investments in domestic manufacturing, in science and technology research? What about expanding the earned income tax credit by $60 billion over a decade, to help lower-income workers.
Did I miss anything? How about the DREAM act! That would have been nice. Thanks for nothing, Obama! And how about background checks for gun purchases? Nope! Maybe Obama actually wants people to keep getting shot.
Umm, but wait! Obama has actually proposed all of these things, and been blocked by Republicans in congress in every instance (or in the case of Medicaid expansion, by the supreme court). Hmm, maybe it's time to stop blaming Obama for everything wrong in the world, and instead elect Dems into congress, so we can actually get some things accomplished.
Because, however much you may hate Obama personally, the fact of the matter is that Obama with a Democratic congress would be ten times better than President Warren with a GOP congress (or President Sanders or President Nader or whoever else people are fantasizing about). I mean, maybe if Elizabeth Warren were president suddenly John Boehner and Mitch McConnell would have a big change of heart and come out in favor of single payer healthcare. But I really don't think so.
lumpy
(13,704 posts)' he's a corporatist', 'he betrayed us' and our Democratic principles'.
Maedhros
(10,007 posts)He continued Bush era foreign policy and greatly expanded the drone murder campaign.
He claimed the authority to declare U.S. citizens to be Enemies of the State and to execute them without due process.
He used the Espionage Act to prosecute journalists more than every other President combined.
He pushed for fast-track authority on the TPP while negotiating it in secret.
He re-established black sites in Somalia.
He increased our military involvement in Africa by 274%.
These are not things to be glossed over for partisan solidarity. I have principled positions against these policies - I will not abandon my principles just to make Obama supporters feel better about their President.
DevineBovine
(26 posts)Maedhros
(10,007 posts)is more than insulting and not close to being accurate.
If I'm to be pilloried because I'm hewing to my principles, the I welcome their opprobrium.
riversedge
(70,197 posts)like the items you mentioned. I would add-his education policy with Arne Duncan sucks also.
That said-he is working on health care and discrimination and a host of other items. We, as a nation would be worse off with a Republican President--and Senate.
Maedhros
(10,007 posts)As long as the Democrats know that we will tolerate "not worse off", they will NEVER work for "better."
lumpy
(13,704 posts)Damn! He could have done better. We are so disappointed!
wall_dish
(85 posts)I stand on my principles and if some don't like it, tough shit.
Kingofalldems
(38,452 posts)wall_dish
(85 posts)President Obama has done a lot of good things and some not so good things, but I won't betray my principles and stay quiet on the not so good things.
lumpy
(13,704 posts)space and time to point them out to someone who works so hard at fault finding.
Trust Buster
(7,299 posts).......every successful politician will be a "corporatist". Some people just don't get it.
Maedhros
(10,007 posts)Trust Buster
(7,299 posts)....but to accept it as long as the system is set up that way. Otherwise, your candidate will lose. That's just the unvarnished truth. I don't like it mind you, but that's the way the game is played post-Citizen's United.
Whisp
(24,096 posts)sounds disgustingly familiar, doesn't it?
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pipoman
(16,038 posts)The impatience of Americans is unbelievable. We have a framework for health care reform that we wouldn't have had without Obama's leadership.
Do we really need to list Obama's successes on a Democratic board?
I wish he could have done more, he did do more for the 99% in his 7 years than both shrubs did in 16..
Lady Freedom Returns
(14,120 posts)Many seem to forget the one major hurdle he (and we) have. It is called "The GOP". Till they have been truly curtailed, things will move slow.
pipoman
(16,038 posts)human nature/personality types will always be split..
VanillaRhapsody
(21,115 posts)when THEY were the ones that were counting on a Magic Man!
elias7
(3,997 posts)Those with realistic expectations and an understanding of how nuanced the fight against obstructionism must be.... We don't criticize not getting everything that we might have wanted, and don't point the finger at a scapegoat.
When we fail to get behind that criticism and blame, we get the , "oooo, 11th dimensional chess" sarcastic bullshit from those who had unrealistic expectations in the first place.
Just wait. If E Warren gets elected how disappointed this crowd will be. Quick to turn on her and then criticize us for blindly following our new savior.
VanillaRhapsody
(21,115 posts)that have discovered the magic way to avoid anyone expecting them to do ANYTHING.....all they have to do is complain about whoever is in power...Abracadabra...nobody expects you to help "Progress".
This is not about the End goal...this is about the journey....
lumpy
(13,704 posts)the ones who were expecting a savior to correct any and all world problems.
steve2470
(37,457 posts)thelordofhell
(4,569 posts)Please don't add an extra term to Bush Sr. It's bad enough Jr. got 2 terms.........
mcar
(42,307 posts)The critics seem to forget those pesky Republicans blocking every little thing.
wandy
(3,539 posts)The OP is correct in that Obama has proposed many worthwhile incentives only to be blocked in favor the wishes of a chosen few.
Certainly some degree of racism is involved here but consider..........
Even were a Democratic President to be white, middle age and have stunning hair, little would change.
The GOP has a vested interest in representing the rich and powerful.
Speaking of which. Any results from the GOP presidential held in Los Vegas?
mrchips
(97 posts)The current lie that progressives turned out in 2010 so we aren't to blame for the big losses.
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2011/03/10/954909/-Turnout-a-little-data#
I really resent the voter suppression coming from the left.
malaise
(268,952 posts)the first in 70 years and nearly seven million people have signed up. Good grief!
VanillaRhapsody
(21,115 posts)malaise
(268,952 posts)he hasn't done enough
ChisolmTrailDem
(9,463 posts)Yavin4
(35,437 posts)That's why they supported Ted Kennedy.
Today, Carter is worshipped by Liberals.
Maedhros
(10,007 posts)DevineBovine
(26 posts)joeybee12
(56,177 posts)His views really evolved after that time so I don't think the comparison is valid.
Yavin4
(35,437 posts)Carter gave the Panama Canal back to Panama. He created the Dept. of Energy and Education.
He was not a conservative.
joeybee12
(56,177 posts)VanillaRhapsody
(21,115 posts)Good luck with that.
lumpy
(13,704 posts)yeoman6987
(14,449 posts)Sorry change of subject, but the Department of education has gone from over 100 billion down to 19 billion in a very short time. Unbelievable. How much more do these wacky Republicans want to cut? Goodness, soon the DOE will owe the federal government money .
cascadiance
(19,537 posts)... in those days, and many like me supported John Anderson instead. In retrospect, there is so much that Jimmy Carter did, or tried to do as president (solar energy, etc.), that I wish we had someone like him to choose from today than what we have now. His "born again" image was more of a marketing campaign to get certain votes rather than him being really crazy in a way that that movement has churned out pols over the years. And I do like what he has done as an ex-president more than any in my lifetime.
okaawhatever
(9,461 posts)has been fact-checked several times. He said he favored single-payer but that with the current system it would be too difficult to switch over. So, no one should complain about that. If an individual prefers single-payer that's fine. They can complain about the ACA, but don't claim that Obama failed them or baited-and-switched because that simply isn't true. The way the ACA was configured allows for states to do something similar to single payer. It may be an issue that is addressed at the state level.
Also, Obama and congress aren't the ones to blame for states not expanding Medicare/Medicaid. That was the Supreme Court, if i'm not mistaken.
As to the 1% claim, if you look at his campaign promises, he promised to raise cap gains tax rate back to 20%, which he did. He also increased the top bracket from 35 to 39.5%, another one of his promises. He also kept the Bush tax cuts for the lower income brackets, another promise.
He added the medicare tax to cap gains above a certain amount and raised it for all income above a certain amount. (It's kind of a screwy formula but it's based on a combination of earned and unearned income).
I'll get back with more info, but the truth is, Obama has fulfilled a lot of his campaign promises. We should be asking why so many people aren't acknowledging this.
DanTex
(20,709 posts)It was a poorly written OP, where I didn't get to the point until the end. Yes, Obama accomplished a huge amount, and the reason he didn't accomplish more isn't because he's some corporate 1% apologist, it's because he's been blocked by the Republican congress.
Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)No. Let's start with Iraq and the Republican claim they THEY are the party of National Security. So they ran McCain the "war hero" who wanted to EXPAND the war into Iran and Syria.
kelliekat44
(7,759 posts)by omission or commission for everything that is wrong with private insurance companies, the GOP Congress, the Wall Street Criminals, and everything else the 1% do to hurt the rest of us. I often wonder why he even ran for President? Surely it was to do us no good.
trublu992
(489 posts)get your venom accurate.
lakercub
(659 posts)Second-to-last paragraph.
Cha
(297,160 posts)thanks DanTex~
GeorgeGist
(25,319 posts)NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)"Obama with a Democratic congress would be ten times better than President Warren with a GOP congress "
William769
(55,145 posts)Proud Liberal Dem
(24,409 posts)Presidents are really only as good as the Congresses he has had to work with and, with the exception of his first one (2009-2011), they have been absolutely horrible due to rampant GOP obstructionism and President Obama and the Dems have pretty much been reduced to damage control (i.e. limiting spending cuts, raising the debt ceiling, keeping government open) and defending stuff already passed that the Republicans are trying to repeal and/or sabotage (i.e. ACA). It would've been interesting to see what President Obama could have been doing with a loyal Democratic Congress from 2009 to now. It really frustrates me that the last two Democratic Presidents have gotten a combined total of 4 years to get legislation enacted. What's even worse is that Republicans have been able to leverage the rules of the Senate so that even when a majority of Senators agree on something (even when it's totally bipartisan), legislation, nominees, etc. fail to be approved due to procedural maneuvers and not because of any actual substantive reason.
rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)the horrible make-believe monster (Obama Haters) that abound in DU.
Well there are no Obama Haters in DU but it's an easy way to get a lot of rec's and adulation.
joeglow3
(6,228 posts)Thus, that is not a bad thing that it Obama has not passed it, IMHO.
DanTex
(20,709 posts)Start using the National Longitudinal Survey of Youth. I compare
siblings who differ in their participation in the program, controlling
for a variety of pre-treatment covariates. I estimate that Head Start
participants gain 0.23 standard deviations on a summary index of
young adult outcomes. This closes one-third of the gap between chil-
dren with median and bottom quartile family income, and is about
80 percent as large as model programs such as Perry Preschool. The
long-term impact for disadvantaged children is large despite fade-
out of test score gains. (JEL H52, J13, I28, I38)
http://www.people.fas.harvard.edu/~deming/papers/Deming_HeadStart.pdf
Or maybe you were talking about this one:
This paper draws on unique non-experimental data from the Panel Study
of Income Dynamics to provide new evidence on the effects of
participation in Head Start on schooling attainment, earnings, and
criminal behavior. Among whites, participation in Head Start is
associated with a significantly increased probability of completing high
school and attending college, and we find some evidence of elevated
earnings in ones early twenties. African Americans who participated in
Head Start are significantly less likely to have been charged or convicted
of a crime. The evidence also suggests that there are positive spillovers
from older children who attended Head Start to their younger siblings.
http://www.princeton.edu/~jcurrie/publications/Longer_Term_Effects_HeadSt.pdf
Hmm...