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By Dennis Hong, Michael Hossey April 01, 2014
I'll list all five, and then you can click on the link if you want to read about of them.
#5. Your Political Preferences
#4. Your Belief in a Higher Power
#3. Your Popularity
#2. Your Confidence
#1. Your Talent for Leadership
http://www.cracked.com/article_21053_5-traits-you-think-you-control-but-totally-dont.html/?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=fanpage&utm_campaign=new+article&wa_ibsrc=fanpage
Larry the Cable Dude
(56 posts)Thanks.
ZombieHorde
(29,047 posts)Oh wait, I did. You're welcome.
Larry the Cable Dude
(56 posts)We are told that we have no control of the political preferences trait. And then we are shown a link to a study in which the author notes:
""The (brain) differences could be a result of genetics, experiences, or a combination of both," Link: http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2012/11/121101105003.htm
Wait a second. The only way we would have "no control" over our political preferences is if these brain differences were the results of genetics. But besides the difference being possibly genetic, they may also be
-from experiences
-from both genetics and experiences.
So in 2 out of the 3 possibilities, we have either complete control or some control. Awful article. One of the most exaggerated, link-bait type of articles are those citing studies. Most of the time the studies are good, but the blog posts linking to them are awful. This is one case.
In conclusion, no, you did not show any links proving the claim. You showed links that don't.
ZombieHorde
(29,047 posts)Larry the Cable Dude
(56 posts)What caused the differences in brain biology?
whatthehey
(3,660 posts)It's not so clear cut. Our opinions are also the product of environment, early education, group norms within our childhood communities, and other factors entirely out of our individual control. Loyola had a point about being given the child.
ZombieHorde
(29,047 posts)Gidney N Cloyd
(19,833 posts)cbayer
(146,218 posts)I think you have some modicum of control, but when it comes down to it, you probably have a lot less then you think.
treestar
(82,383 posts)That. They want to tho k they can improve on their confidence or popularity.
whatthehey
(3,660 posts)Technically we don't control anything. Even deciding on which candy bar to buy is determined by prior experiences decided by others. What our parents let us eat, what ads were produced, what our friends liked, and so on.
But all this sophist hand-wringing worries too much about root cause and not enough about proximal cause. My political preferences are proximally determined by my weighing competing proposals against expected outcomes, prior experience and subjective priorities then choosing candidate/party/cause A rather than B. That's entirely in my control.
WHY I calculate those expected outcomes the way I do, or how I evaluate prior experience or assign subjective priority may very well be driven by education and exposure, which may very well be driven by upbringing then by parental situation and genetics and so on ad infintum. That way lies the end of humans as moral agents however, and means there is nothing I can do to vary whether I choose to simply go home after work or massacre a few dozen random people on the way, or even whether I am culpable if I pick the latter. Clearly I can make that choice, or the rather more mundane one about the candy bar. Determinism is certainly valid, but only to the point of developing a personality with given proclivities. The willpower to overcome these when necessary is an act of moral agency. To complicate matters somewhat, how strong of a moral agent a given person is is deterministic itself as in how much they review and evaluate determined proclivities, but absent extremely unusual neurological defects, the ontology of moral agency is not.
KittyWampus
(55,894 posts)And primarily, an intense desire to change.