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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsAs a harsh critic of portions of The Affordable Care Act,
I would like to congratulate President Obama and the Democratic Party Leadership
on a HUGE Victory in a hard fought battle.
Victory Laps and Ball Spikes are well earned today.
I would also like to congratulate my Wife, Strakraven,
for her stubbornness and refusal to quit.
The enrollment was a nightmare that spanned 5 months,
and journeyed from Websites to telephone calls.
We finally received our Policy in the mail last week.
My Wife and myself are NOW covered under the Medicaid Expansion in Arkansas.
The holdup, roadblocks, and dead ends were NOT the fault of Healthcare.gov,
or any other problems with the ACA.
Arkansas opted for a special Public/Private Medicaid option.
The problems in Arkansas were created solely by the State of Arkansas.
KUDOS for everyone.
Disclaimer: I am STILL a harsh critic of parts of the ACA,
but for a couple of days, I'll be happy to grant them all a well deserved celebration and Victory Lap.
Fewer Americans will DIE this year for lack of access to HealthCare.
doxydad
(1,363 posts)Give it a few months...even the worst ideas can be fixed once the ball gets rolling. As a navigator I was proud to have a hand in signing up people who had never had / were under insured. It will get better and once the rest of the United States sees that it can work...it will only get better.
SomethingFishy
(4,876 posts)I caught 10 minutes of Ed Shultz in the car today and he was claiming the bill doesn't need to be fixed, it's just fine the way it is.
We need to celebrate this victory... and then get back to work.
bvar22
(39,909 posts)but today IS a day of congratulation,
so I won't be taking the bait.
Cheers.
Cali_Democrat
(30,439 posts)Thank you for your hard work and dedication!
doxydad
(1,363 posts)Thanks, heard THANK YOU!! several times, but we also heard "F... YOU KENYAN LOVERS" too. There's some serious hateful people and the worst part of my job was putting up with their hateful crap. Well, that and having my new car keyed because of a I LOVE OBAMACARE bumper sticker, but I'll let good old Karma do it's thing.. Thanks for the post!
Doctor_J
(36,392 posts)Not months. Big insurance is still going to suck down a half trillion dollars of what should be health care money, until long after I go for my dirt nap.
Don't let the half-assed be the enemy of the good.
Cali_Democrat
(30,439 posts)Doctor_J
(36,392 posts)Cali_Democrat
(30,439 posts)MADem
(135,425 posts)randys1
(16,286 posts)and if it is the first step in Medicare for all, then great...
ACA keeps for profit companies in the loop, companies that were they to operate in most other countries, would go to jail
one step at a time, I guess...
bigwillq
(72,790 posts)Glad you and your family will be helped by the ACA.
99Forever
(14,524 posts)... for getting it done. It's a solid step forward, for sure.
Thanks Obama!
eridani
(51,907 posts)If you want single payer, PLEASE work in your state, starting now.
Raine1967
(11,589 posts)I will find the link later if people want, but I know that the President said he wants the states to be basically the incubator for Single payer.
The state of Vermont took that directive seriously.
handmade34
(22,756 posts)I will say though, that Vermont has been very progressive (since Howard Dean was Governor) in the way of helping people get health care... no matter my income, my kids never went without health and dental care as they were growing up!!
Liberal Veteran
(22,239 posts)Can't have anyone undermining the insurance company profits, can we?
Autumn
(45,042 posts)my Primary Care physician is not the one I picked. However after looking up information on the Dr that they put down on my card I think I am impressed. I am going to see if I can try him and if it doesn't work out switch. So I will call them tomorrow to find out and get the spelling corrected.
bvar22
(39,909 posts)DAMN that ObamaCare!!!!
---just kidding.
Congrats on getting the cards.
I don't believe it should be that difficult to get the names right.
We were hanging in Limbo for 6 weeks after someone over the phone "said" we were approved (Trust Us),
but we didn't rest easy until we received the actual policy in the mail.
1000words
(7,051 posts)You spelled your wife's DU handle wrong.
Autumn
(45,042 posts)Raine1967
(11,589 posts)I appreciate this post.
We have a ways to go, but posts like this I really like!
1000words
(7,051 posts)Like you, I am not a particularly big fan of ACA, but I am glad to see it fulfilling immediate needs.
Thanks, Obama!
malaise
(268,885 posts)Roy Rolling
(6,911 posts)The ACA is the worst healthcare approach in America except for all the others that have been tried.
ProSense
(116,464 posts)You got single payer, one of the few such programs that include dental and vision.
A Brief History: Universal Health Care Efforts in the US
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024755799
The Revolution Will Not Be Televised - The Obamacare Photos the MSM Doesn't Want You to See
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024761330
It sucks, but it sucks way less than nothing.
Zorra
(27,670 posts)gain seats in the Senate this year.
Doctor_J
(36,392 posts)"and this is despite the fact that millions are being denied health insurance by far right republican governors and legislature who are literally killing their constituents to try to make me look bad".
But it won't
brush
(53,764 posts)Politicub
(12,165 posts)and didn't mince words.
Still, I don't think red state residents care enough about friends and neighbors to throw out the people keeping the medicaid expansion from happening in their state.
Doctor_J
(36,392 posts)okaawhatever
(9,461 posts)little people know. Hopefully when the good stories start coming in and the business interests and groups like Americans for Prosperity stop paying for anti-ACA ads I think they will slowly get educated and then start to fight for it.
TheKentuckian
(25,023 posts)There's a lot that needs to be fixed. But wow - what a change for America!
DCBob
(24,689 posts)It makes me feel like we are truly on the right track.
Thanks for sharing your honest feelings.
neverforget
(9,436 posts)Plus, I love watching Republicans head explode.
bvar22
(39,909 posts)I actually tuned in to FOX this afternoon for the grins.
delrem
(9,688 posts)GoCubsGo
(32,078 posts)I agree that the ACA far from perfect, yet it's still the best we could have gotten under the circumstances. However, some of the ACA's flaws are ultimately going to push us toward single-payer, probably by way of a "public option", which I suspect is not far away. I just hope it comes in time for those of us who are currently falling through the cracks.
delrem
(9,688 posts)Not even close.
And no, the ACA's flaws aren't going to push the USA toward single-payer. In fact history suggests the contrary, that the ACA will push the issue off the table for the next two decades, at least.
GoCubsGo
(32,078 posts)You are welcome to it.
delrem
(9,688 posts)JoePhilly
(27,787 posts)And ... the ACA allows states to use their exchanges to try public options and even single payer.
And ... THAT is how we'll actually get there. The blue states will add POs. And at some point ... and this is the funny part, the federal exchange, you know, the one the red state governments got when they decided to not set up their own exchanges ... well, those red states will get a federal public option added to their federal exchange choices.
And ... BOOM ... red states will actually get a federal public option before blue states get a federal public option.
The GOP is going to need a lot more than a band-aid.
delrem
(9,688 posts)"the ACA allows states to use their exchanges to try public options and even single payer.
And ... THAT is how we'll actually get there."
Yes, that's the only way you'll get there.
JoePhilly
(27,787 posts)delrem
(9,688 posts)But even in an otherwise similar country with less than 1/10th the population, Canada, that's the way it was done. In one area first. Universal health care was instituted in one Province, proven to work outstandingly well, after which there was no stopping it. To be sure it took an extraordinarily good *minority* Liberal gov't to finally put the federal plan in place (an equivalent in the US might be if the Dems were in power and the Progressive Caucus of the Dem party had enough spine to be meaningful), but even the Conservatives had a very hard argument saying no to it.
There are some things that in the end over-ride divisions within an electorate, and Universal Health Care is proven (in many democratic countries) to be one of them. To be sure, it's an unending battle because the right *never* gives up. But once single-payer is in place it is the right that's constantly looking for any crack in the wall, any opening to exploit and destroy the system -- and the general population hasn't much time for that.
On the other hand, the USA seems to be going the extra mile on the privatization route, even in a direction toward privatizing the entire educational system. Toward "deregulation" of everything, no matter how horrific the consequences. In that light a mandate for the population to buy into private health care insurance is counter-intuitive, to say the least. Likewise secretive behind the scenes deal with pharmaceutical providers designed to foreclose on progressive Pharmacare policy is counter-intuitive.
ProSense
(116,464 posts)http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024755799
The Revolution Will Not Be Televised - The Obamacare Photos the MSM Doesn't Want You to See
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024761330
Enjoy.
Nanjing to Seoul
(2,088 posts)ACA is far from perfect, but it's a nice first step.
There is no bigger critic of the administration than me probably on this board, but today, I call a cease fire.
3catwoman3
(23,970 posts)... he referred to it as "...a big effin' deal," only he used the full vernacular. I loved it!
okaawhatever
(9,461 posts)Congratulations.
KoKo
(84,711 posts)He deserves for not caving to the Repugs. And this has been a dream of Dems forever and even Nixon and Romney wanted some version of this.
I think we, hopefully, got better than Romney and Nixon's would have been overturned because of Watergate.
But, this has long been a dream of Dems and Obama managed to get it through when he had the MoJo...so Credit is due! Even thought it's been on Dem's "To Do List" credit goes to the President who managed to achieve it.
Half-Century Man
(5,279 posts)For daughter, 4 years wanting
For wife, 6 years wanting.
Perfect? no
Needed? yes.
A fair start to a longer journey.
joshcryer
(62,269 posts)This is such a joke. I have no words.
1000words
(7,051 posts)An olive branch is extended, and you decide to take a dump on it.
joshcryer
(62,269 posts)I'm not going to fall for it anymore. Next week ACA will be shit on by the same people. The olive branch might have been acceptable a week ago while the same people were cheering on calling Obama a piece of shit. But the timing is clearly because Obama won this round.
ProSense
(116,464 posts)but the poster did support the claim that it was a "step in the wrong direction."
Thanks and congratulations?
joshcryer
(62,269 posts)Near the bottom, can't link on phone. Their reply to me.
ProSense
(116,464 posts)The poster got Medicaid!
I see the joke.
bvar22
(39,909 posts)and remain a harsh critic,
but for a couple of days, I'm going to congratulate The President and Dem Leadership for winning a hard fought battle.
joshcryer
(62,269 posts)Criticism is more than canned talking points. Anyone can read the link I posted to prosense.
bvar22
(39,909 posts)I am STILL a critic, and will be submitting posts highly critical of the ACA in the near future,
and recommended ways of fixing it,
[font size=3]but THIS is a thread congratulating President Obama and the Dem Leadership for a hard fought victory.[/font]
If you are unable to handle that nuance,
I suggest you carry your tears, bitterness, and baseless attacks somewhere else.
joshcryer
(62,269 posts)You seem quite defensive. I'm sure you are concerned that one will discover the truth.
bvar22
(39,909 posts)I will stand by every critical post I have made about the ACA here at DU,
and WILL be posting more in the future,
facts and all,
but the FACT I'm celebrating TODAY
is that fewer Americans will DIE from lack of Health Insurance.
...and it will take more than you and your pathetic empty whining and baseless attacks to harsh that mellow.
DUDE!
joshcryer
(62,269 posts)I fought for ACA for years as people shit talked. Bitter? Vindication is sweet!
rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)Corruption Inc
(1,568 posts)Too bad there's still a tens of millions of people 1 job away from bankruptcy and then being eligible for it.
Single payer/universal is the only answer in the civilized world of which the U.S. still isn't a part of.