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niyad

(113,205 posts)
Tue Apr 1, 2014, 07:36 PM Apr 2014

rape culture is also when:

there is a backlog of untested rape kits numbering in the hundreds of thousands across the country, some going back more than a decade, because women simply are not a high enough priority to actually have the agencies do their jobs.

(and we know how few rapes actually get reported, or acted upon)

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rape culture is also when: (Original Post) niyad Apr 2014 OP
New York State's backlog is atrocious. hrmjustin Apr 2014 #1
just a few numbers across the country: niyad Apr 2014 #2
Your right, this is rape culture at work. hrmjustin Apr 2014 #4
Punishing the guilty and exonerating the innocent are not incompatible, and are both nomorenomore08 Apr 2014 #5
exactly. but we still have morans like this commenter, who clearly has comprehension issues niyad Apr 2014 #8
Thanks for this. Bookmarked for use thucythucy Apr 2014 #28
you are most welcome. yes, this is a battle we will, sadly, have to continue fighting. niyad Apr 2014 #29
Thanks to Wendy Davis, TX is finally doing something about it maddezmom Apr 2014 #3
thanks to wendy, indeed. niyad Apr 2014 #6
11,000 untested rape kits in Detroit sufrommich Apr 2014 #7
and now, in 2014, ten percent of the backlog has been tested, and look what they have found niyad Apr 2014 #9
Many serial rapists already identified. One sent to jail sufrommich Apr 2014 #10
something that should have happened years ago. niyad Apr 2014 #11
So...what happened to all those potential rape cases? Do we know? Comrade Grumpy Apr 2014 #12
Many cases just fell off the radar screen. sufrommich Apr 2014 #14
While the DEA gets 60 Billion a year to arrest pot smokers and brownie-eating grandmas. Warren DeMontague Apr 2014 #13
word. nt TheFrenchRazor Apr 2014 #20
various reports have said that testing rape kits can cost anywhere from $500 to $1500. can niyad Apr 2014 #15
I believe it could be because of the volume Ilsa Apr 2014 #16
a lot of forensic evidence collected in a murder as well. wonder how much they cost? niyad Apr 2014 #18
Yeah, but murders are important crimes Hekate Apr 2014 #23
I know, how silly of me to think that rape just might be important! niyad Apr 2014 #25
It costs over a million dollars per HOUR to fly shiny helicopters around looking for pot plants. Warren DeMontague Apr 2014 #24
absolutely agree. niyad Apr 2014 #30
Texas is years late. Shameful, shameful, shameful. marble falls Apr 2014 #17
yep, and many cold cases can be solved virtually instantaneously by a simple DNA TheFrenchRazor Apr 2014 #19
Institutionalized sexism. idendoit Apr 2014 #21
Justice delayed is justice denied. It's atrocious. nt Hekate Apr 2014 #22
. . . niyad Apr 2014 #26
Even Ohio's wingnut AG is pushing for testing of old rape kits. riqster Apr 2014 #27
you make an excellent point. niyad Apr 2014 #31
. . . niyad Apr 2014 #32
. . . niyad Apr 2014 #33

niyad

(113,205 posts)
2. just a few numbers across the country:
Tue Apr 1, 2014, 07:51 PM
Apr 2014

Federal funding needed for rape kit reform

Over the past several years, news has poured in about thousands of untested rape kits found in police evidence facilities in cities across the country—20,000 in Texas, 12,669 in Los Angeles, 4,000 in Illinois, 5,523 in Ohio, 11,304 in Detroit and 12,164 in Memphis.

The discovery of each trove of untested kits is shocking to the public, concerning to survivors of sexual violence, disappointing to victim advocates, and humbling for law enforcement. The announcement that President Obama’s FY15 budget includes – for the first time – $35 million in dedicated funding, to support community response teams in their work to address untested rape kits in police storage facilities, is a relief to public officials committed to comprehensive reform.

We understand the opportunities for justice and healing contained in those untested kits. DNA from the kit can identify an unknown rapist, confirm the identity of a known assailant, corroborate the victim's account, and exonerate innocent suspects. In a jurisdiction like New York City, with a long-standing policy to test every rape kit booked into police evidence, the arrest rate for rape skyrocketed from 40 percent to 70 percent once mandatory rape kit testing was implemented. When Detroit tested its first 1600 kits, it found 100 serial rapists, and linked rape kits to crimes in 22 states and the District of Columbia.
. . .

Read more: http://thehill.com/blogs/congress-blog/judicial/202225-federal-funding-needed-for-rape-kit-reform#ixzz2xgKPdmw1
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nomorenomore08

(13,324 posts)
5. Punishing the guilty and exonerating the innocent are not incompatible, and are both
Tue Apr 1, 2014, 07:57 PM
Apr 2014

vitally important. I know you know this, but some seem to pretend otherwise - as if prosecuting rape more aggressively will put more innocent men in jail, which doesn't have to be the case, especially with DNA testing.

niyad

(113,205 posts)
8. exactly. but we still have morans like this commenter, who clearly has comprehension issues
Tue Apr 1, 2014, 08:02 PM
Apr 2014

(or a great deal of fear. one wonders why?)


Scott Kirk

26 February 2014 1:29pm


taking a guys sperm, and calling him a rapist, without telling him, so he can defend himself, is a serious perversion to American courts and legal system.

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/feb/24/untested-rape-kits-backlog-us-legislators

thucythucy

(8,043 posts)
28. Thanks for this. Bookmarked for use
Wed Apr 2, 2014, 10:15 AM
Apr 2014

with those folks who will, inevitably, continue to argue that "there's no such thing as rape culture."

Thanks for the OP as well.

maddezmom

(135,060 posts)
3. Thanks to Wendy Davis, TX is finally doing something about it
Tue Apr 1, 2014, 07:54 PM
Apr 2014

-snip-
http://www.msnbc.com/all/doj-400000-untested-rape-kits-across-us
After Detroit tested the first 10% of its backlogged kits, authorities were able to link cases to 46 serial rapists.

More than 11,000 untested kits remain in Detroit, according to End the Backlog. In 2011, the Department of Justice approved funding for case studies in Wayne County, Mich.„ and Houston, Texas, to examine the cause of the backlogs.

The Texas state legislature began spending $11 million to clear its 20,000-kit backlog in September 2013, thanks to a three-year effort by state senator and gubernatorial candidate Wendy Davis. Unlike many other states, there is no statute of limitations on rape cases in Texas.

niyad

(113,205 posts)
9. and now, in 2014, ten percent of the backlog has been tested, and look what they have found
Tue Apr 1, 2014, 08:05 PM
Apr 2014

already.

 

Comrade Grumpy

(13,184 posts)
12. So...what happened to all those potential rape cases? Do we know?
Tue Apr 1, 2014, 08:27 PM
Apr 2014

Are there tens of thousands of women across the country who have submitted these kits and nothing ever happened with their cases?

Have these cases been prosecuted without resorting to the rape kits, i.e. when the identity of the rapist was known?

Does anybody actually know?

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
13. While the DEA gets 60 Billion a year to arrest pot smokers and brownie-eating grandmas.
Tue Apr 1, 2014, 08:33 PM
Apr 2014

I support a re-evaluation of our law enforcement priorities and expenditures. Letting those kits go untested is unconscionable.

niyad

(113,205 posts)
15. various reports have said that testing rape kits can cost anywhere from $500 to $1500. can
Tue Apr 1, 2014, 09:35 PM
Apr 2014

anyone explain why so much?

Ilsa

(61,690 posts)
16. I believe it could be because of the volume
Tue Apr 1, 2014, 09:53 PM
Apr 2014

of contents. For example, pubic hair is combed to collect loose hair from the rapist. Then hair is pulled off the victim. Same is done with hair on the head. There is lots of evidence collected, including debris under fingernails.

Hekate

(90,616 posts)
23. Yeah, but murders are important crimes
Wed Apr 2, 2014, 03:35 AM
Apr 2014


If a man gets mugged by a stranger or beaten up by an acquaintance, does anyone in law enforcement ask him what he was wearing or if he had a drink, or if he met the eye of the assailant?

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
24. It costs over a million dollars per HOUR to fly shiny helicopters around looking for pot plants.
Wed Apr 2, 2014, 03:38 AM
Apr 2014

I don't know why the testing of the kits is so expensive, but I do think it would be money far better spent.

 

idendoit

(505 posts)
21. Institutionalized sexism.
Tue Apr 1, 2014, 11:44 PM
Apr 2014

It's still the foundation of how one's gender becomes a liability in a surprising number of societies.

riqster

(13,986 posts)
27. Even Ohio's wingnut AG is pushing for testing of old rape kits.
Wed Apr 2, 2014, 09:41 AM
Apr 2014

They have been testing old kits from local departments around the state, and are finding matches in the state/federal DNA database.

Of course, how many active prosecutions are occurring as a result is unclear.

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