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April 2, 2014: The day democracy died. (Original Post) Jackpine Radical Apr 2014 OP
Well, a completely dead democracy.. ananda Apr 2014 #1
Yeah, the agenda is complete. malthaussen Apr 2014 #2
it's not dead, it's just sleeping. KittyWampus Apr 2014 #3
It's pining for the fjords. FSogol Apr 2014 #6
It's NOT pining, its passed on! Moostache Apr 2014 #32
Call this what it really is-Fascism ... aggiesal Apr 2014 #29
This the "tsunami" Reince Priebus was talking about: a tsunami of cash. CJCRANE Apr 2014 #4
money is now speech riverwalker Apr 2014 #5
+ 1 They_Live Apr 2014 #27
The Supremes' timing is terrible. Jackpine Radical Apr 2014 #7
I guess they wanted to wait a day... Tommy_Carcetti Apr 2014 #8
Knew this was coming. Unfortunately justhanginon Apr 2014 #9
NB: The limit per candidate remains but you can give to as many candidates CJCRANE Apr 2014 #10
A meaningless limit, easily defeated. Jackpine Radical Apr 2014 #16
The USA has now become the laughing stock of the world. Yesterday we are chasitsed by the UN for jwirr Apr 2014 #11
IMO, it's been dead since December 12, 2000. nt City Lights Apr 2014 #12
Actually, the mortal wound awoke_in_2003 Apr 2014 #18
It waqs nice while it lasted Prophet 451 Apr 2014 #13
"No, no, 'e's uh,...he's resting." cali Apr 2014 #14
Pining for the fjords? Scootaloo Apr 2014 #26
SCOTUS!!!!!!!!!11111 bigwillq Apr 2014 #15
uh, take a look a Skinner's post. cali Apr 2014 #17
Um, did you miss the Republican Presidents? treestar Apr 2014 #22
what's funny? barbtries Apr 2014 #25
You really are clueless, aren't you. dbackjon Apr 2014 #30
Message auto-removed Name removed Apr 2014 #19
Our founders did not have it in mind that the SCOTUS to have such power. rhett o rick Apr 2014 #20
It's been dead for quite some time. LuvNewcastle Apr 2014 #21
It's not too late to fight back. We must fight back as hard as we can. mulsh Apr 2014 #23
IMHO, it was actually December 12, 2000 Coventina Apr 2014 #24
Tat's only when it entered a persistent coma. Jackpine Radical Apr 2014 #31
Yeah, it may have been in a vegetative state and barely on life support after that deutsey Apr 2014 #33
Yes. Enthusiast Apr 2014 #34
If the Democrats lose control of Senate in 2014 Gothmog Apr 2014 #28
Just move on and look forward, no need to hold the ideals of democracy in some high regard Corruption Inc Apr 2014 #35

malthaussen

(17,187 posts)
2. Yeah, the agenda is complete.
Wed Apr 2, 2014, 10:26 AM
Apr 2014

Although I'm sure the rich would rather use gerrymandering and hacked voting machines and not have to spend their money.

-- Mal

aggiesal

(8,911 posts)
29. Call this what it really is-Fascism ...
Wed Apr 2, 2014, 01:06 PM
Apr 2014

"Fascism should more appropriately be called Corporatism because it is a merger of state and corporate power”
― Benito Mussolini

Benito Mussolini is the father of fascism, so he should know.

CJCRANE

(18,184 posts)
4. This the "tsunami" Reince Priebus was talking about: a tsunami of cash.
Wed Apr 2, 2014, 10:26 AM
Apr 2014

A huge cash infusion is the only thing that could keep the GOP going.

Every time they falter, the SC gives them a new lease of life.

riverwalker

(8,694 posts)
5. money is now speech
Wed Apr 2, 2014, 10:29 AM
Apr 2014

If money is now speech, and the poor have no money, then the poor are bring denied equal first amendment rights. Couldn't this be appealed on that basis?

justhanginon

(3,290 posts)
9. Knew this was coming. Unfortunately
Wed Apr 2, 2014, 10:36 AM
Apr 2014

it just makes the saying "the best democracy money can buy" a truism. Maybe it is time to either get rid of the "supreme" court or at the least rename it more in keeping with the Roberts whorehouse it has become.
I wonder if our country can ever come back from the corporate owned state it has become or are we just too far into the money can buy any election to recover.
When I see casino owners auditioning presidential hopefuls groveling for his money I kinda think it's all over.

CJCRANE

(18,184 posts)
10. NB: The limit per candidate remains but you can give to as many candidates
Wed Apr 2, 2014, 10:36 AM
Apr 2014

and PACs as you want now.

The aggregate limit was previously $123,000.

(Seen on another thread).

Jackpine Radical

(45,274 posts)
16. A meaningless limit, easily defeated.
Wed Apr 2, 2014, 10:43 AM
Apr 2014

I've capped out on my asshole Republican Senate candidate, so I'll max out on your asshole Republican candidate and you can max out on mine in return.

jwirr

(39,215 posts)
11. The USA has now become the laughing stock of the world. Yesterday we are chasitsed by the UN for
Wed Apr 2, 2014, 10:38 AM
Apr 2014

our terrible civil rights record. Today we sell out democracy while we try to tell the world that we are going to help them gain democracy. Beware world we are not what we claim to be. We are just another commodity to be bought and sold.

 

awoke_in_2003

(34,582 posts)
18. Actually, the mortal wound
Wed Apr 2, 2014, 10:58 AM
Apr 2014

occurred in Dallad in Nov 63- it just took a while for people to notice the stinking corpse.

Prophet 451

(9,796 posts)
13. It waqs nice while it lasted
Wed Apr 2, 2014, 10:41 AM
Apr 2014

But let's be honest, the US has been teetering on the edge of corporatism for a long time.

 

bigwillq

(72,790 posts)
15. SCOTUS!!!!!!!!!11111
Wed Apr 2, 2014, 10:42 AM
Apr 2014

How many times have we heard "SCOTUS" from folks telling us why we need to vote for D's? How's that working out?




barbtries

(28,787 posts)
25. what's funny?
Wed Apr 2, 2014, 12:17 PM
Apr 2014

the Court was loaded previously. clearly it's more important than ever to elect a democratic president.

Response to Jackpine Radical (Original post)

 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
20. Our founders did not have it in mind that the SCOTUS to have such power.
Wed Apr 2, 2014, 11:19 AM
Apr 2014

They can overturn laws that are made by the other two branches which are responsible directly to the public. If Congress and or the President do something against the wish of the people, they can be removed the next voting cycle and the action reversed. Not so with the almighty SCOTUS. Their decisions are extremely hard to overcome. The Constitution does not give them the right to interpret the Constitution and essentially mold laws.

LuvNewcastle

(16,844 posts)
21. It's been dead for quite some time.
Wed Apr 2, 2014, 11:40 AM
Apr 2014

When the intelligence agencies and the MIC started running our government behind the scenes, that's when democracy died. Maybe you could nail it down at November 22, 1963, I'm not sure. Anyway, that date is very important when you're talking about the death of democracy. Except for local and some state races, it really doesn't matter who we vote for anymore. They're under the thumb of somebody/ something else.

mulsh

(2,959 posts)
23. It's not too late to fight back. We must fight back as hard as we can.
Wed Apr 2, 2014, 11:46 AM
Apr 2014

The bottom line is getting folks out to vote. No amount of money can buy off truly engaged people. Just look at voter turn out for the last election in areas where Republicans have ended early voting, enacted modern poll and literacy tests,etc. People showed up and stayed until they could vote. The moronic chattering class on our airwaves seemed surprised by that. We, every one of who is engaged need to do all we can to encourage and enable people to get out and vote.

They can buy candidates and lots of air time but engaged people are another matter. I refuse to give up. I've been working invoter drives since before I could vote and I plan to do so until I die. Surely there are local organizations where ever you live that need help. Check out your local Democratic Party, the League of Women's Voters, NAACA just to give a few of the better known examples.

Don't give up.

deutsey

(20,166 posts)
33. Yeah, it may have been in a vegetative state and barely on life support after that
Wed Apr 2, 2014, 01:21 PM
Apr 2014

Until now. I think it's spirit is finally gone.

Gothmog

(145,129 posts)
28. If the Democrats lose control of Senate in 2014
Wed Apr 2, 2014, 01:05 PM
Apr 2014

President Obama will have a very difficult time confirming any decent SCOTUS justice in the last two years of his term

 

Corruption Inc

(1,568 posts)
35. Just move on and look forward, no need to hold the ideals of democracy in some high regard
Wed Apr 2, 2014, 02:16 PM
Apr 2014

Corporations are people, it says so in the law so it must be true, LOL!

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