OK, maybe I'm politically naive about this,

[MoonRiver]

but does the SCOTUS decision REALLY mean we are screwed? I mean look at the massive amount of money the Rethug power brokers poured into Romney's campaign. Result was total fail. Dems used social media for all it's worth and GOTV to a massive degree. I think those factors are what we need to focus on. Then, even with a huge money advantage, the thugs can be beaten down. My biggest fear is gerrymandering, which continues to make it next to impossible for us to take back the House.

[Demo_Chris]

1. Nope, it really doesn't matter. nt

[MoonRiver]

2. I think it matters. The question is how much.

My guess is not as much as we fear.

[Glitterati]

3. I think we have to wait and see

But, the ruling will be used by the right wing against us.

At this point, that's the only thing we can know with absolute certainty.

[MoonRiver]

4. Yes, but we have some very powerful weapons in our arsenal too.

"Money Can't Buy You Love"

[Glitterati]

5. I don't know....the teapublicans sure do love Sheldon Adelson

and HIS money.

[MoonRiver]

7. Adelson couldn't get rMoney into the White House.

Just saying.

[Glitterati]

9. Which is exactly why, this week, he said

He didn't want to spend his money on another loser. This time.

[MoonRiver]

10. I guess what he fails to understand

is that they are ALL losers!

[Glitterati]

12. Only if we GOTV

Otherwise, Sheldon Adelson and the Koch Brothers are determined to pay for makeovers to make them winners.

[MoonRiver]

13. Yes, GOTV is where it's at.

But seriously, lipstick on a pig (and I love pigs) is not going to cut the mustard, to horribly mix metaphors.

[Glitterati]

14. Well, the SC sure as hell put lipstick on Bush

and if that ain't lipstick on a pig, I don't know what is.

[MoonRiver]

15. That was treason.

If the votes had been allowed to be counted, Gore would have become president.

[pnwmom]

11. But they could improve on social media and GOTV. And we'd still be stuck

with this decision.

[MoonRiver]

16. Yes, we're stuck with it.

Question is, what will we do about it. Roll over and die, or use the weapons we have to fight it.

[treestar]

19. They are Republicans. They will always GOTV

and they will always suck at social media.

[CJCRANE]

6. And they're probably ready to hit the ground running

as they were in 2010.

It wasn't until 2012 that the Dem SuperPACs starting catching up (and possibly even overtook the GOP ones).

[Glitterati]

8. Of course they are

THAT'S why they took this to the Supreme Court.

[Demo_Chris]

17. I think very little. I would invite you to consider...

People always talk about getting the money out of politics. After all, they might say, both parties spent over a billion each just in the last Presidential election. Big money, right?

WRONG.

Exxon Mobile alone, just this one company, could fully fund both parties, every election, every level from dog catcher to President, and they wouldn't even notice the cost. Note, not the Petrochemical Industry, but this one company. But no one company needs to do that. They split it up so that none of them pay a damn thing. For Lockheed or Goldman or Monsanto or UnitedHealth, buying influence is nothing more than their petty cash fund. Wall Street could fund both parties for the next DECADE out of this year's bonus checks. These major industries finance both parties as well as virtually every interest group you have ever heard of.

This ruling here means nothing. If anything, I think they got it right. If I want to personally write a check to every Democrat who in the hell is John McCain to say I cannot? It's my money. And if corporations are people and Superpacs are cool ranch dressing, my personal contributions damn well should be too.

In my opinion,

[treestar]

18. I'm with you

The money is not by itself a guarantee they will win and that's been shown to be the case. The gerrymandering is worse. That's why we need to be more concerned about local elections and not think getting the Presidency means we get it all.