So let me get this straight about the Koch brothers and 'Collectivists'.

[applegrove]

The Koch brothers are allowed to organize into a huge group people under the banner of their individual corporations. The corporations even form themselves into a large group and sell. The kochs take their fortune and build up groups that coordinate, educate and activate negative memes and opinions and policies that are very harmful. But regular people are not allowed to organize in any way against them without being called character attackers? Is that right?

[jwirr]

1. Sounds like it.

[Jackpine Radical]

2. Whup--Back up here for a minute.

Huh? What did I miss?

[applegrove]

3. I based the first version of a title I read. Then I reread the article and

redid my post. I think it is hypocritical to organize the destruction of middle class way of life as a big corporation and then attack 'collectivists' (which is an insult for regular people organizing in a less formal way than corporations are organized) for calling you on it.

[Trajan]

5. Excellent point ...

Industry forms consortiums that plan and execute plans as one entity ... yet, when Labor tries to organize, they are 'Collectivists' ...

Hypocrisy is rife ...

[world wide wally]

4. Are you beginning to understand now? Just ask any tea bagger living in a trailer if you still don't

get it.

[applegrove]

6. Why do you say am I beginning to understand now? I've been a liberal advocate most of my life.

[world wide wally]

7. Just being sarcastic...it was the generic "you"

[applegrove]

8. Okay. Thanks.

[WillyT]

9. It's Worse... Check This Out:

DULink: http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024777888

[DirkGently]

10. And unionizing labor is cheating!

You have to remember, monied interests colluding for selfish gain is the legitimate way to wield power. Anything undermining that like, say, organizing people or speaking the truth is fundamentally unfair.

Ahem.

[applegrove]

12. So is getting together to form a democracy!! That's cheating too. Government is cheating!!

[nadinbrzezinski]

11. And Messier Adam Smith wrote a long treatise

about this... and was rather critical of it. He said that if moneyed interests were allowed to collude with each other we would see exactly what we are seeing.

Don't tell the Kochs, that was the Wealth of Nations where Messier Smith even wrote of living wages and breaking up monopolies. The hand was nothing more than five pages of why that is a problem.