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sufrommich

(22,871 posts)
Fri Apr 4, 2014, 12:27 PM Apr 2014

Buchanan:Putin a Christian crusader,Moscow a Godly city.

In his Kremlin defense of Russia’s annexation of Crimea, Vladimir Putin, even before he began listing the battles where Russian blood had been shed on Crimean soil, spoke of an older deeper bond.

Crimea, said Putin, “is the location of ancient Khersones, where Prince Vladimir was baptized. His spiritual feat of adopting Orthodoxy predetermined the overall basis of the culture, civilization and human values that unite the peoples of Russia, Ukraine and Belarus.”

Russia is a Christian country, Putin was saying. This speech recalls last December’s address where the former KGB chief spoke of Russia as standing against a decadent West:

Many Euro-Atlantic countries have moved away from their roots, including Christian values. Policies are being pursued that place on the same level a multi-child family and a same-sex partnership, a faith in God and a belief in Satan. This is the path to degradation.

Heard any Western leader, say, Barack Obama, talk like that lately?

http://www.theamericanconservative.com/vladimir-putin-christian-crusader/


Holy shit,this right wing love for Russia and Putin is getting crazy.

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Buchanan:Putin a Christian crusader,Moscow a Godly city. (Original Post) sufrommich Apr 2014 OP
Looks like hatred for gay people is becoming the most important LuvNewcastle Apr 2014 #1
Sieg Heil! And Amen, too! blkmusclmachine Apr 2014 #2
Agree! get the red out Apr 2014 #4
I don't think it's just homophobia that attracts them. sufrommich Apr 2014 #5
Yes, homophobia, gender bias, Christian white rule. Basically a pining for 1950's America. stevenleser Apr 2014 #7
Or 1930s Germany. nt sufrommich Apr 2014 #15
It's not just "white Christian absolute power," amandabeech Apr 2014 #23
More proof Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Apr 2014 #3
later he writes: OKNancy Apr 2014 #6
And Jesus Wept! hrmjustin Apr 2014 #8
They've always called Obama a "communist", Jamaal510 Apr 2014 #9
His point about Khersones has little historical relevance. Xithras Apr 2014 #10
It's an emotional argument intended for sufrommich Apr 2014 #14
Message auto-removed Name removed Apr 2014 #26
Russia is a Christian country.... Mike Daniels Apr 2014 #11
Well ain't that just peachy Pat.... rppper Apr 2014 #12
They ares seriously bat shit crazy about Putin. Initech Apr 2014 #13
Putin would fit right in with the Tea Party. DemocraticWing Apr 2014 #16
Oh, goody: another drooling old right-winger with a man-crush on Putin. Paladin Apr 2014 #17
Listen up! Bucahanan's uncle died at Auschwitz PCIntern Apr 2014 #18
+1. Hadn't heard that one; thanks. Paladin Apr 2014 #29
I thought Pat was still nursing a grudge against the Russkies for stopping Hitler. yellowcanine Apr 2014 #19
Shit I'm so old I can remember when they were all called 'Godless Commies'... truebrit71 Apr 2014 #20
There is a black man sitting in the oval office MattBaggins Apr 2014 #21
Buchanan's been bat-shit crazy since well before President Obama amandabeech Apr 2014 #24
Who was the Oracle that branded the right Red? kickysnana Apr 2014 #22
shit, you see a decent share of putin lovin' on DU, too. dionysus Apr 2014 #25
I am shocked! Behind the Aegis Apr 2014 #27
There are useful idiots at both extremes.nt sufrommich Apr 2014 #28
Breaking: "Right-wing loon embraces 'Commies'". News at 11. nt BumRushDaShow Apr 2014 #30
So Pat Buchanan 'hates America for its freedoms?' LeftishBrit Apr 2014 #31

LuvNewcastle

(16,844 posts)
1. Looks like hatred for gay people is becoming the most important
Fri Apr 4, 2014, 12:35 PM
Apr 2014

doctrine for RW Christians. They'll embrace any old asshole who will persecute gay people. That just shows you how sick their version of Christianity is.

sufrommich

(22,871 posts)
5. I don't think it's just homophobia that attracts them.
Fri Apr 4, 2014, 01:06 PM
Apr 2014

There's a lot of pining for the good old days of white Christian absolute power in the western world. Putin sends those dog whistles out and Christian white power groups pick it up. He's a dangerous man playing a dangerous game and America's right wing extremists are cheering him on.

 

stevenleser

(32,886 posts)
7. Yes, homophobia, gender bias, Christian white rule. Basically a pining for 1950's America.
Fri Apr 4, 2014, 01:10 PM
Apr 2014

That's really what most right wingers want. They want the 1950s back. And Putin and Russia seem to suggest 1950s America to them.

Not sure I disagree. I think equality and social justice wise, Russia is about where the US was in 1950, except I don't see any 1960s movement in the near future for them.

 

amandabeech

(9,893 posts)
23. It's not just "white Christian absolute power,"
Fri Apr 4, 2014, 04:04 PM
Apr 2014

but white Christian MALE absolute power.

My experiences with former Soviets convinced me that the USSR is stuck not in the 1950s, but in the 1850s as far as its view of women.

OKNancy

(41,832 posts)
6. later he writes:
Fri Apr 4, 2014, 01:06 PM
Apr 2014

"In the culture war for the future of mankind, Putin is planting Russia’s flag firmly on the side of traditional Christianity."

They are both so full of caw-caw.

Jamaal510

(10,893 posts)
9. They've always called Obama a "communist",
Fri Apr 4, 2014, 01:18 PM
Apr 2014

yet here they are praising someone who was once part of Russia's communist party. Funny that.

Xithras

(16,191 posts)
10. His point about Khersones has little historical relevance.
Fri Apr 4, 2014, 01:24 PM
Apr 2014

The original population and settlers of Crimea were Greek, and the native Greek population controlled the peninsula for a millennia. Price Vladimir lead the Kievan Rus, and was baptized in Khersones after he conquered the Crimean people and its native population (the Tatars didn't appear and settle in Crimea until the Mongols defeated the area centuries later, and the peninsula retained its Greek population until the Russians forcibly ejected them in the 1700's).

The Kievan Rus were the ancestors of the modern Russian, Ukrainian, and Belorussian states. The fact that a Rus king from Kiev conquered Crimea does not somehow give Russia any greater claim to it than Ukraine had. That's like saying that a person has the right to steal something from a sibling, if they can prove that it once belonged to their parent.

It's an idiotic argument.

sufrommich

(22,871 posts)
14. It's an emotional argument intended for
Fri Apr 4, 2014, 01:36 PM
Apr 2014

those who want a return to a romanticized past.It's worked before in western history,not so long ago.Putin and Buchanan are both hoping it still works now.

Response to sufrommich (Reply #14)

Mike Daniels

(5,842 posts)
11. Russia is a Christian country....
Fri Apr 4, 2014, 01:30 PM
Apr 2014

Because a "Christian" country would starve and brutalize its citizenry like the czars did for centuries....yeah, right.

Pat really needs to just be shut away in a home for the mentally exhausted at this point.

rppper

(2,952 posts)
12. Well ain't that just peachy Pat....
Fri Apr 4, 2014, 01:31 PM
Apr 2014

So why don't you just move your wrinkled old bigot @$$ over there then and STFU you pinko commie doucherocket! Eisenhower and Nixon are rolling in their selective graves.....

DemocraticWing

(1,290 posts)
16. Putin would fit right in with the Tea Party.
Fri Apr 4, 2014, 01:54 PM
Apr 2014

Bet Sarah Palin is hoping she can see Russia from her house when she's serving as Putin's Vice President.

Paladin

(28,254 posts)
17. Oh, goody: another drooling old right-winger with a man-crush on Putin.
Fri Apr 4, 2014, 01:57 PM
Apr 2014

Get in line, Buchanan; you're late.....
 

truebrit71

(20,805 posts)
20. Shit I'm so old I can remember when they were all called 'Godless Commies'...
Fri Apr 4, 2014, 03:43 PM
Apr 2014

....My how times have changed....

MattBaggins

(7,904 posts)
21. There is a black man sitting in the oval office
Fri Apr 4, 2014, 03:46 PM
Apr 2014

Their hatred for him is so intense they will engage in mental gymnastics to find a way to praise Putin over Obama.

Yes they are that filled with hatred for Obama.

 

amandabeech

(9,893 posts)
24. Buchanan's been bat-shit crazy since well before President Obama
Fri Apr 4, 2014, 04:10 PM
Apr 2014

took office. He particularly disliked the Clintons. I swear he thought that they were the spawn of satan.

This piece convinces me that Pat is in the middle stages of senile dementia, and that his family and friends should stage an intervention.

The loons over at freeper land are as you say.

Behind the Aegis

(53,952 posts)
27. I am shocked!
Sat Apr 5, 2014, 02:10 AM
Apr 2014

Oh, wait, no I am not, I am only shocked by supposed liberals who support Putin and make excuses for the bullshit happening there.

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