I think tolerance should go both ways..

[srican69]

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All Firefox boss did was donate money ...there is no evidence of discrimination against gays ...

So should he be forced to resign??

I would find it hard to support that.

Update: Based on the replies.. I see the fallacy in my reasoning..I now think what happened was fair..

[Rex]

1. I missed it, who did he donate money to?

nt.

[PoliticAverse]

3. A $1,000 contribution in support of California's Proposition 8.

See: http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2014/apr/03/mozilla-ceo-brendan-eich-resigns-prop-8

[Rex]

4. Thanks! So he made a political statement.

And is now facing the repercussions for his actions, as it should be imo.

[mr_hat]

2. Money is speech, remember. nt

[LanternWaste]

5. His donation to deny marriage equality is in and of itself evidence of discrimination.

"there is no evidence of discrimination against gays..."

His donation to deny marriage equality is in and of itself evidence of discrimination.


"I think tolerance should go both ways..
Asking one to tolerate intolerance is almost as absurd as asking one to light the way with darkness.

[srican69]

17. I agree ..but I meant discrimination in a more direct way... such as

Refusing to hire etc

But I see your point. Thanks

[m-lekktor]

6. nope i will never be tolerant of bigotry.

he donated to proposition 8 which was bigotry against lgbt folks and people caught wind of it and many of his underlings at mozilla resigned and people decided to boycott the browser. then he resigned. seriously where in fk does this "we must tolerate the intolerant" come from? i refuse , it is insane!

[mwrguy]

7. He should be ostracized .

No mercy for bigots.

[Xithras]

8. Nobody forced him to resign.

I choose not to do business with people who are actively working against my political and social goals. This guy supported Prop 8, and he's the CEO of the company, so I choose to avoid the company. Apparently a lot of people did the same thing, which was impacting the company negatively. He resigned because he realized that his presence was going to kill the company.

I reserve the right to support, both personally and financially, companies that promote and support my views on gay rights, the environment, and a couple of other causes that are very important to me. I also have the right to withhold that support from companies that oppose them. We all do.

This guy made his choice. More importantly, he has been consistently unapologetic about them. If he'd done a mea culpa, offered money to gay rights organizations, and publicly renounced his previous donation, he MIGHT have been able to get out from under this. Instead he chose to defend himself by hiding behind his "personal beliefs". He was correct when he said that he has the right to his own personal beliefs, but SO DO WE. And I believe that we should not associate with people who are actively trying to deny equality to their fellow human beings.

[CJCRANE]

9. Yes tolerance goes both ways, and intolerance goes one way. nt

[NightWatcher]

10. So we should tolerate his intolerance?

Sorry, nope.

If you're a bigot, I say you can go fuck yourself. I refuse to tolerate assholes.

[CJCRANE]

11. What if someone donated money to discriminate against him?

How would he feel?

[closeupready]

12. He wasn't forced to resign, so stop lying.

[Cirque du So-What]

13. No

He's free to be as bigoted an asshole as he chooses to be - just as it it our choice to buy their product or withhold our money (it's speech, remember) as we see fit.

[greyl]

14. Acceptance is what you should strive for. nt

[Skittles]

15. sorry, I do not tolerate homophobia

and neither should you

he is free to donate to whomever he pleases - and we are free to let him know he is a homophobic prick

[justabob]

16. sorry, no

There is no other way to read a contribution against gay marriage. He does not believe glbtq people are equal. I will not ever tolerate that, nor SHOULD I... nor should you or anyone else who believes that all people are equal. He is free to donate against Prop 8 or to the KKK or whatever hateful group, but he has to own it and take the consequences for it.

[La Lioness Priyanka]

18. false equivalence. look it up.

also, donating money to deprive people of rights is discrimination.

[Blue_Tires]

21. +1

[CJCRANE]

19. Tolerance = you accept the other person and they accept you.

When one side decides to be intolerant, they unbalance the equation, it doesn't work any more.

[digonswine]

20. The dude is a D-bag

I think the whole thing has been framed poorly, though.
If there is an outcry, and he is no longer seen as someone that can represent the company's outlook-he then cannot do the job--fair or not.

I think that portraying this like he was fired for being a bigoted asshole is wrong. He was no longer able to serve the function he was supposed to.

I have been listening to XTIAN radio on my way home--THEY frame it like he is being persecuted for his beliefs---this is business, period, IMO.