HOW THE TRANS-PACIFIC PARTNERSHIP WOULD IMPACT INTERNET FREEDOM

[MindMover]

Remember SOPA - the "copyright" legislation before Congress last year that public outcry stopped cold? Well, the same corporations behind SOPA have pushed to insert its most pernicious provisions into TPP. Says who? The organizations that stopped SOPA like the Electronic Freedom Foundation and the ACLU.

Under this TPP proposal, Internet Service Providers could be required to "police" user activity (i.e. police YOU), take down internet content, and cut people off from internet access for common user-generated content.

Violations could be as simple as the creation of a YouTube video with clips from other videos, even if for personal or educational purposes.

Mandatory fines would be imposed for individuals' non-commercial copies of copyrighted material. So, downloading some music could be treated the same as large-scale, for-profit copyright violations.

http://www.exposethetpp.org/TPPImpacts_InternetFreedom.html

[okaawhatever]

1. Sorry, I think this is highly slanted. All the provisions i've seen only talk about copyrighted

content. That is all that is being forced to be removed. Many ISP's are tired of spending money dealing with copyright claims and want to decrease their obligation to investigate and remove the material. Sorry, I call b.s. on this. It's too slanted.

[MindMover]

2. So what is your position on TPP ..? nt

[okaawhatever]

7. That doesn't matter. What does matter is that the owners of the site STOPTPP.com have

hidden their identities and their contributors. I smell a rat, a rat that smells like astro turf. Are you familiar with the org because there isn't really anything about them on the internet.

[pa28]

8. My reading matches the conclusion of linked piece.

ISP's will be legally forced to spend *more* time chasing down the individual activities of users that may or may not violate copyright law.

Article 16

3. For the purpose of providing enforcement procedures that permit effective action against
any act of copyright infringement covered by this Chapter, including expeditious remedies to
prevent infringements and criminal and civil remedies that constitute a deterrent to further
infringements, each Party shall provide, consistent with the framework set out in this Article:
(a) legal incentives for service providers to cooperate with copyright owners in
deterring the unauthorized storage and transmission of copyrighted materials;

http://keionline.org/sites/default/files/tpp-10feb2011-us-text-ipr-chapter.pdf

[okaawhatever]

9. It is not "chasing down the individual activities of users". It is enforcing copyrights. Maybe the

ISPs will instead come up with a way to block people from loading copyrighted material. I'm not going to support people who are trying to steal from artists and others who legally gain a copyright for their material. Especially since those individuals are usually trying to make money themselves. I noticed one of the endorsements for tpp.com comes from the pirate guy who got rich stealing other people's material. Sorry, I don't support theives and it doesn't have anything to do with free speech, it has to do with allowing artists to own and be paid for their work.

[pa28]

11. So then we are in agreement the article's claim is not BS.

You just happen to agree with the concept behind the treaty. Fair enough.

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

3. That's OK. Obama will veto the TPP if it includes anything so egregiously anti-freedom.

Won't he?

[CaliforniaPeggy]

4. Um, I don't think he'll veto it. He's pushing it! n/t

[msongs]

5. in secret behind our backs. his big $$ best friends know what's in it tho cause they are

writing it

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

6. Exactly. But, "we must look forward" rather than backward to the days when the internet was free.

No doubt he'll explain how adding more constraints on internet freedom is really good for us and we should be grateful and supportive for the smaller cage.

[davidpdx]

10. The internet provisions are one of my main concerns

Though South Korea has said they won't sign the TPP. Enforcement here is nil. I don't expect that to last forever though.

[Octafish]

12. Corporate Power = State Power = Secret Power = Insider Power

Greg Palast says that is how the game is played, via the World Trade Organization, International Monetary Fund and the World Bank. His source, Joseph Stiglitz.