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Never. Washing. Hand. Again.... (Original Post) Playinghardball Apr 2014 OP
The looks on their faces is priceless. Love it! Tarheel_Dem Apr 2014 #1
Like Rock Star appeal! SevenSixtyTwo Apr 2014 #2
He certainly does. That's part of what makes him so likable. =) nt AverageJoe90 Apr 2014 #6
Good one!!! :) onlyadream Apr 2014 #21
I am handwashing obsessed ... I can assure you .... etherealtruth Apr 2014 #3
remember onethatcares Apr 2014 #4
The GOP will never have someone this appreciated and well-liked. randome Apr 2014 #5
Message auto-removed Name removed Apr 2014 #7
Wow, from the back row flamingdem Apr 2014 #8
Nothing against Obama, but you're effectively shaking hands with everyone he has shaken hands with Nye Bevan Apr 2014 #9
The human body has orders of magnitude more bacterial cells than human cells. longship Apr 2014 #10
So why do hospitals put sanitizer dispensers everywhere? (nt) Nye Bevan Apr 2014 #11
Because hospitals are a vector for infection. longship Apr 2014 #12
Hospital and clinical hand sanitizers are alcohol-based. Aristus Apr 2014 #14
Never used the stuff, I farm, am usually pretty, um, dirty. And healthy. toby jo Apr 2014 #17
I grew up in NJ..in the late '40s and '50s. pangaia Apr 2014 #25
I'm with you on this. noamnety Apr 2014 #13
FFS, that is what you took away from this photo? Bet you are a blast to hang with. nt Logical Apr 2014 #24
Nope, that's what I took from the subject line "Never washing hands again" (nt) Nye Bevan Apr 2014 #26
I imagine many people take even the most obvious bit of dramatic license as literal LanternWaste Apr 2014 #36
Goodness! I shall never shake hands with anyone again! MineralMan Apr 2014 #33
You don't need to refuse to shake hands, Nye Bevan Apr 2014 #34
You know, I have never followed that advice, MineralMan Apr 2014 #35
MM, there are only about 200 rhinoviruses (cold viruses). Once you've had tblue37 Apr 2014 #37
Well, see, my theory is that we are constantly MineralMan Apr 2014 #38
Yep. Childhood allergies might be caused in part by an tblue37 Apr 2014 #39
I haven't had 200 colds in my life.. sir pball Apr 2014 #44
"One doctor’s convincing case for abolishing the handshake" Nye Bevan Apr 2014 #42
What I do is get an influenza vaccine shot MineralMan Apr 2014 #43
I love the guy screaming, and the girl (bottom left last picture) looks like she's crying. :) tofuandbeer Apr 2014 #15
Like Beatles mania. (nt) Control-Z Apr 2014 #32
Yeah yeah yeah...that's what I was thinking as well. tofuandbeer Apr 2014 #45
Obama is a very likeable man, and smart like anything Whisp Apr 2014 #16
:) BlancheSplanchnik Apr 2014 #22
Obligatory compare and contrast RufusTFirefly Apr 2014 #18
Rufus saves the day! I always welcome another reason to hate the bastard. AAO Apr 2014 #19
LOL! n/t BlancheSplanchnik Apr 2014 #23
This about sums it up flamingdem Apr 2014 #28
I am so happy for those students! Ilsa Apr 2014 #20
This is so wonderful! Samantha Apr 2014 #27
Just look at their faces!!! ailsagirl Apr 2014 #29
K/R. (nt) NYC_SKP Apr 2014 #30
the guy next to her JI7 Apr 2014 #31
Pure. Joy. nt ChisolmTrailDem Apr 2014 #40
My mother said the same after shaking JFK's hand.... Bigmack Apr 2014 #41
 

SevenSixtyTwo

(255 posts)
2. Like Rock Star appeal!
Mon Apr 7, 2014, 06:15 PM
Apr 2014

Judging by the expressions. Especially the guy in the middle of the pic. But the expressions on the gals bottom left makes me wonder what's going on with the left hand!

etherealtruth

(22,165 posts)
3. I am handwashing obsessed ... I can assure you ....
Mon Apr 7, 2014, 06:15 PM
Apr 2014

I would not hurry to wash my hand.

The joyous looks on their faces .... awesome!

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
5. The GOP will never have someone this appreciated and well-liked.
Mon Apr 7, 2014, 06:17 PM
Apr 2014

Never.
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Response to Playinghardball (Original post)

Nye Bevan

(25,406 posts)
9. Nothing against Obama, but you're effectively shaking hands with everyone he has shaken hands with
Mon Apr 7, 2014, 06:20 PM
Apr 2014

at that event. And statistically speaking, some of those people are very likely to be sick. I would make sure not to touch my face and wash my hands or use sanitizer at the first possible opportunity.

longship

(40,416 posts)
10. The human body has orders of magnitude more bacterial cells than human cells.
Mon Apr 7, 2014, 06:50 PM
Apr 2014

If you killed all the bacterial cells in and on your body, you would die!

There are bacteria on your hands that are unique to your hands -- that protect you. There are bacteria in your gut which help digest food. They are all over and inside your body. Wiping them out would be a very, very bad thing.

Get that into your brain. Then, throw away the anti-bacterial hand cleaner and never, ever buy it again. (I use dish soap w/o anti-bacterial in a small pump bottle to wash my hands. I use regular soap in the shower -- unscented Dove.)

Fear of germs is silly.

The last thing you want to use is sanitizer.

longship

(40,416 posts)
12. Because hospitals are a vector for infection.
Mon Apr 7, 2014, 07:03 PM
Apr 2014

People go there when they are infected. It is not in the interest of the patients that it spreads.

People do not go to your home when they are infected.

Also, the myriad of bacteria on and in your body -- many more bacterial cells than human cells by orders of magnitude -- help you live and, in part, protect you.

That's why you should not use hand sanitizer at home and why hospitals should.

Get it? I hope so.

Aristus

(66,316 posts)
14. Hospital and clinical hand sanitizers are alcohol-based.
Mon Apr 7, 2014, 07:04 PM
Apr 2014

They kill bacteria through the mechanical process of dehydrating them, not by physiological processes to which bacteria may become resistant. They don't contribute to microbial resistance, the way antibiotic hand soaps do. (We don't use those in my clinic).

And normal skin flora like strep and staph eaily repopulate the hands after washing.

 

toby jo

(1,269 posts)
17. Never used the stuff, I farm, am usually pretty, um, dirty. And healthy.
Mon Apr 7, 2014, 08:10 PM
Apr 2014

Same for my kid. Outdoors, everyday, roll around in the stuff.

Dirt is the stuff of life.

Great pic of our Pres. Thanks.

 

noamnety

(20,234 posts)
13. I'm with you on this.
Mon Apr 7, 2014, 07:03 PM
Apr 2014

Especially at the moment, when my workplace right now has an outbreak of MRSA.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
36. I imagine many people take even the most obvious bit of dramatic license as literal
Tue Apr 8, 2014, 09:55 AM
Apr 2014

I imagine many people take even the most obvious bit of dramatic license as literal... regardless of whether it's a sincere mistake or not.

Nye Bevan

(25,406 posts)
34. You don't need to refuse to shake hands,
Tue Apr 8, 2014, 09:40 AM
Apr 2014

but after having done so, don't touch your face until you have washed your hands.

MineralMan

(146,286 posts)
35. You know, I have never followed that advice,
Tue Apr 8, 2014, 09:46 AM
Apr 2014

and I have maybe one cold per year. If my hands are dirty, I wash them. After using the toilet, I wash them. Before preparing meals, I wash them. If I touch people people who are clearly ill I wash them. That's it. I'm 68 years old, and have followed the same habit all my life. I do not subscribe to the idea that it is necessary to wash my hands more than that.

I shake hands with people fairly frequently, since I deal with clients in person often. I have never gotten ill after shaking hands with anyone, and I don't go scrub my hands afterwards.

You should do as you think best, I think. But, what you recommend is not really necessary for healthy people.

tblue37

(65,331 posts)
37. MM, there are only about 200 rhinoviruses (cold viruses). Once you've had
Tue Apr 8, 2014, 10:09 AM
Apr 2014

them, you don't get them agaon. That is why people tend not to get colds after a certain age, unless they've been too isolated to be sufficiently exposed in their younger years.

Until my younger child turned 18, I ran a home daycare, for all 18 years of her life up to then. Kids are walking germ factories. As a result of my exposure to so many kids, I stopped getting colds before I turned 40. Neither of my kids (now 32 and 34) ever get colds either. We got exposed to most such germs during thise daycare years.

One man I dated, though, was always getting colds, even though I never did. I am guessing that although I wasn't getting the colds, I was a carrier for the germs.

MineralMan

(146,286 posts)
38. Well, see, my theory is that we are constantly
Tue Apr 8, 2014, 10:15 AM
Apr 2014

being inoculated as we go about our daily lives. Being overly concerned with germs tends to make people avoid that constant low-level exposure. Due to that, they fail to develop strong immune systems and are more subject to illnesses caused by viruses and bacteria.

So, I wash my hands as I described. So far, throughout my life, that has worked very well. The one serious illness I have had was viral encephalitis, specifically caused by the Eastern Equine virus. I got that from a mosquito bite. It almost killed me. No amount of handwashing would have prevented that.

In my opinion, there is no need for excessive handwashing. I think it is detrimental to building a strong immune system.

tblue37

(65,331 posts)
39. Yep. Childhood allergies might be caused in part by an
Tue Apr 8, 2014, 10:20 AM
Apr 2014

immune system that was overprotected from germs during the early years, so that it becomes hyperactive.

sir pball

(4,741 posts)
44. I haven't had 200 colds in my life..
Tue Apr 8, 2014, 12:29 PM
Apr 2014

And it's only about every third winter than I get the sniffles. Always the same, stuffy for a day and then tremendously watery eyes and accompanying runny nose for a day (my 'leaky face), and then I'm better. Never feel anything bad, though. Literally just those two symptoms.

Probably has to do with literally playing in a swamp when I was a kid. Waist-deep muck is a great place to play tag!

Nye Bevan

(25,406 posts)
42. "One doctor’s convincing case for abolishing the handshake"
Tue Apr 8, 2014, 11:51 AM
Apr 2014
It’s not just germaphobes that are on high alert during flu season. The threat of being laid up for a week — even two — with a wicked cough, congestion and fever makes nervous Nellies of us all. One seemingly harmless sneeze at this time of year can clear out a subway train.

Public health officials (as always) are advising people to wash their hands to protect themselves from the spread of germs. Others are making a more pronounced stand.

James Hamblin, MD — a writer for The Atlantic — recently made a case for abandoning the handshake altogether. His argument is pretty straightforward: handshakes are bad for our health. He cites a statistic from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention that estimates that “up to 80 percent of infections are transmitted by hands.”

According to Hamblin, who puts it quite dramatically: “It would be more sanitary to intertwine almost any other part of our bodies, apart from our lips or genitals.”

http://www.chatelaine.com/health/wellness/do-handshakes-spread-germs/



MineralMan

(146,286 posts)
43. What I do is get an influenza vaccine shot
Tue Apr 8, 2014, 12:00 PM
Apr 2014

every year. With only one exception, it has worked every year. The exception was in 2012, when I did contract influenza of a type that was not accurately represented in the vaccine. I was mildly ill for three days. The vaccine made my illness less serious than it would have been.

Because I choose to be vaccinated, I do not change my normal habits during flu season. One time, and one time only, it did not completely protect me. That's pretty damned good odds.

I shake hands. I will continue to do that. I make contact with other human beings, and will continue to do that as well. And there it is. You might do something else, and that's fine, too.

 

Whisp

(24,096 posts)
16. Obama is a very likeable man, and smart like anything
Mon Apr 7, 2014, 08:01 PM
Apr 2014

If I were in that crowd, I would be making all those faces.

These people sure don't think he's a piece of shit used car salesman and neither does most of the sane world.

Ilsa

(61,694 posts)
20. I am so happy for those students!
Mon Apr 7, 2014, 08:28 PM
Apr 2014

They aren't nitpicking through all of the President's positions on everything. Not yet. They are just thrilled to look up to The Man.

Samantha

(9,314 posts)
27. This is so wonderful!
Mon Apr 7, 2014, 09:05 PM
Apr 2014

I attended Bladensburg Senior High and graduated in a class of 600 plus students. One of my classmates was responsible for getting the school overhauled and updated.

I live in College Park, Maryland, not too far from the school, and I cannot believe President Obama visited there. Just too, too wonderful.

Sam

JI7

(89,247 posts)
31. the guy next to her
Tue Apr 8, 2014, 02:15 AM
Apr 2014

i wonder if he just shook his hand before . if not i hope he got a handshake also .

 

Bigmack

(8,020 posts)
41. My mother said the same after shaking JFK's hand....
Tue Apr 8, 2014, 10:46 AM
Apr 2014

... A high point of her life, she said. So glad those kids had this experience.

(Sorry, I can't help sharing this thought: Imagine the poor souls who think the same after shaking Dubya's paw.)

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