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RKP5637

(67,088 posts)
Mon Apr 7, 2014, 09:12 PM Apr 2014

The new "don't say gay" teacher contract in Cincinnati Catholic schools

The new "don't say gay" teacher contract in Cincinnati Catholic schools could cost educators their jobs if they attend a gay family member's wedding or share kind words with a bullied student.

The Archdiocese of Cincinnati just distributed a new 2014 teacher contract that not only bans teachers from leading a "homosexual lifestyle" or living with a partner outside of marriage, but prohibits "public support" for any position contradicting official church policies -- including on social media or personal blogs.

Let's show the archbishop that there's a growing national outcry calling for the church to start living up to Pope Francis's call for a new tone.

http://act.faithfulamerica.org/sign/cincinnaticontract?referring_akid=290.161463.lNuvPa

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The new "don't say gay" teacher contract in Cincinnati Catholic schools (Original Post) RKP5637 Apr 2014 OP
Gawd is can be embarassing to live in Cincinnati. CincyDem Apr 2014 #1
These teachers need to go teach at a public school yeoman6987 Apr 2014 #3
+1, n/t RKP5637 Apr 2014 #4
I have quite a few friends/classmates that teach in Catholic elementary and high schools blueamy66 Apr 2014 #12
Good for them yeoman6987 Apr 2014 #18
I have friends that put their kids through Catholic school. They were not really RKP5637 Apr 2014 #21
I graduated in 1984. blueamy66 Apr 2014 #22
The Phelps family has been giving Kansas such a bad name in stuff like this too. n/t RKP5637 Apr 2014 #9
These Religious Thugs should pay Taxes warrant46 Apr 2014 #2
Exactly! Many of these churches function as huge corporations. The fact RKP5637 Apr 2014 #5
Do they think by ignoring gays that some how B Calm Apr 2014 #6
Some just love hatred and persecution, just thinking of the history, and RKP5637 Apr 2014 #10
Don't say gay, say Takei! Brickbat Apr 2014 #7
+++ 1,000,000 +++ n/t RKP5637 Apr 2014 #11
Once again, rushing headlong into becoming irrelevant theHandpuppet Apr 2014 #8
I can't think of the right word, but some areas function as 'group think' and thus RKP5637 Apr 2014 #14
Can you imagine what it must be like for a LGBT teen going to one of these schools? theHandpuppet Apr 2014 #16
IMO it's child abuse! n/t RKP5637 Apr 2014 #17
Would they throw Jesus out for dining with gay people? Aristus Apr 2014 #13
Yep, they would! Same type of people, just different times, different names, but RKP5637 Apr 2014 #15
Typical Cincinnati-area political mindset theHandpuppet Apr 2014 #19
IMO individuals such as this are sociopaths that have wormed their way RKP5637 Apr 2014 #20
GOOD. These religious radicals are the greatest recruiters for secularism. nt alp227 Apr 2014 #23

CincyDem

(6,338 posts)
1. Gawd is can be embarassing to live in Cincinnati.
Mon Apr 7, 2014, 09:23 PM
Apr 2014

Between this and the Reds these past couple days. Sheesh.

 

yeoman6987

(14,449 posts)
3. These teachers need to go teach at a public school
Tue Apr 8, 2014, 06:47 AM
Apr 2014

Catholic School teachers make about 30 thousand to start if they are lucky. Public school teachers start at 45 thousand and don't have to put up with this crap. Why any teacher would want to work for "prayers and holy cards" is beyond me…..

 

blueamy66

(6,795 posts)
12. I have quite a few friends/classmates that teach in Catholic elementary and high schools
Tue Apr 8, 2014, 10:33 AM
Apr 2014

They do it because they valued their Catholic education, it means something to them and they feel like they are making a difference in the world. The money isn't the issue with them.

BUT, I doubt many would agree with this BS.

 

yeoman6987

(14,449 posts)
18. Good for them
Tue Apr 8, 2014, 11:21 AM
Apr 2014

Seriously if they are happy good on them, but what is happening in this particular diocese is ridiculous. I did go to Catholic School my entire K-12 years and do not regret it, but stuff like this never happened when I went......graduated in 1987.

RKP5637

(67,088 posts)
21. I have friends that put their kids through Catholic school. They were not really
Tue Apr 8, 2014, 11:40 AM
Apr 2014

religious people, but the Catholic schools were the best where they lived, and they had to live there for employment. I never heard of anything like this at all.

 

blueamy66

(6,795 posts)
22. I graduated in 1984.
Tue Apr 8, 2014, 11:52 AM
Apr 2014

This stuff never happened while I went to school either. As a matter of fact, one of my best friends while going to Catholic school was a lesbian. Nobody, either student or faculty, ever said anything about it.

RKP5637

(67,088 posts)
5. Exactly! Many of these churches function as huge corporations. The fact
Tue Apr 8, 2014, 09:51 AM
Apr 2014

they get off tax free is ridiculous.

 

B Calm

(28,762 posts)
6. Do they think by ignoring gays that some how
Tue Apr 8, 2014, 09:56 AM
Apr 2014

all gays will disappear? Sounds like to me the Archdiocese surrendered and gave up!

RKP5637

(67,088 posts)
10. Some just love hatred and persecution, just thinking of the history, and
Tue Apr 8, 2014, 10:11 AM
Apr 2014

LGBT gives them a target under the banner of a church to practice their hatred and persecution. Some just gotta have something to hate, it's how they get their jollies, and for some it's oneupmanship. All, very sick individuals in positions of power they should be nowhere near.


theHandpuppet

(19,964 posts)
8. Once again, rushing headlong into becoming irrelevant
Tue Apr 8, 2014, 10:00 AM
Apr 2014

Nothing will change until the people finally get fed up and walk out but in Zinzinnati, I don't expect that to happen in my lifetime.

RKP5637

(67,088 posts)
14. I can't think of the right word, but some areas function as 'group think' and thus
Tue Apr 8, 2014, 10:51 AM
Apr 2014

perpetuate these attitudes and feelings. My hope is with the Millennials. I think many youth of today are fed up with these archaic institutions.

I felt that way decades ago, and I'm pleased to see youth coming along that are fed up too. The hatred and persecution by some of these institutions exits for unfounded reasons, for them, it's just the thing to do, no brain involved, no rationale thought, just doing as a reflex action.

theHandpuppet

(19,964 posts)
16. Can you imagine what it must be like for a LGBT teen going to one of these schools?
Tue Apr 8, 2014, 11:03 AM
Apr 2014

It's not like a lot of these kids are given a choice about their parents' decision to send them to public or private/religious schools.

Aristus

(66,294 posts)
13. Would they throw Jesus out for dining with gay people?
Tue Apr 8, 2014, 10:34 AM
Apr 2014

'Cause it's right there in the Bible where Jesus stayed in the homes of, and had dinner with, people the self-righteous, conservative establishment disapproved of.

RKP5637

(67,088 posts)
15. Yep, they would! Same type of people, just different times, different names, but
Tue Apr 8, 2014, 10:56 AM
Apr 2014

still the same hatred, the self-righteous, conservatives and pious whom set themselves up on tin pedestals. Many function as cults of hatred hiding under the banner of religion.

theHandpuppet

(19,964 posts)
19. Typical Cincinnati-area political mindset
Tue Apr 8, 2014, 11:22 AM
Apr 2014

This is an example of why I hold out little hope for any change in the near future. BTW, Becker is an alum of Xavier University.

http://www.cincinnati.com/story/news/politics/2014/04/07/rep-impeach-judge-will-overturn-gay-marriage-ban/7426067/
The Cincinnati Enquirer
April 7, 2014
Rep.: Impeach judge who will overturn gay marriage ban
Chrissie Thompson, cthompson@enquirer.com

A Clermont County state representative reiterated his call for the impeachment of federal Judge Timothy Black, after Black on Friday said he plans to overturn Ohio's ban on recognizing same-sex marriages conducted in other states.

"In an epic display of arrogance and incompetence, Judge Black announced that he will require the people of Ohio to disregard the Ohio Constitution and force the recognition of 'homosexual marriages' performed outside of Ohio," state Rep. John Becker's office said a statement. "He persists in allowing his personal political bias to supersede jurisprudence."...

...Becker first called for Black's impeachment after the U.S. District Court judge ruled last year that Ohio must recognize the out-of-state marriage of an Over-the-Rhine couple on a death certificate. James Obergefell wanted to be listed on the certificate as the spouse of John Arthur after Arthur died last year of ALS. The couple had been married in Maryland weeks earlier...

...Becker has introduced a resolution in the Ohio House that would call on the House of Representatives to begin impeachment proceedings against Black. The measure has not yet received a hearing in a House committee, and even if it passed, it would not have the power to require any action from Congress.... MORE


RKP5637

(67,088 posts)
20. IMO individuals such as this are sociopaths that have wormed their way
Tue Apr 8, 2014, 11:33 AM
Apr 2014

into office to have power and control over others and to persecute people for their kicks.

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