Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member Latest Breaking News General Discussion The DU Lounge All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search
26 replies = new reply since forum marked as read
Highlight: NoneDon't highlight anything 5 newestHighlight 5 most recent replies
"Most Homophobes are secretly gay. (Original Post) leftieNanner Apr 2014 OP
Most homophobes are openly bigots... SidDithers Apr 2014 #1
hmm, i suppose some portion of triskadecaphobes are actually 13. unblock Apr 2014 #2
Perhaps, leftieNanner Apr 2014 #3
on the internet, on can never be too sure.... unblock Apr 2014 #5
Most homophobes are a**holes, who either A.) want to feel... displacedtexan Apr 2014 #4
... Matariki Apr 2014 #6
I hate this statement. dilby Apr 2014 #7
I agree...but I think the comeback about spiders is that joeybee12 Apr 2014 #9
I disagree. The implication, to me, is that there is something wrong with society. closeupready Apr 2014 #11
Many conservatives, whether gay or straight, are hypocrites. CJCRANE Apr 2014 #14
+1 Jamaal510 Apr 2014 #24
Agreed. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Apr 2014 #26
Most conservatives are secretly human beings. CJCRANE Apr 2014 #8
Why are homophobes obsessed with gay people? closeupready Apr 2014 #10
Probably because, deep down, they're afraid they might be one. KamaAina Apr 2014 #12
Agree, either because they ARE gay, or else they have gay fantasies, like 95% closeupready Apr 2014 #15
It is ok to make up statistics whopis01 Apr 2014 #21
Some certainly are obsessed because of their own interalized homophobia. Behind the Aegis Apr 2014 #17
Though I don't entirely agree, you've made some really good points here, BtA. closeupready Apr 2014 #18
Most arachnophobes don't attempt to establish legislation denying existence to arachnids. LanternWaste Apr 2014 #13
Maybe They're Afraid Of Reprisal! ProfessorGAC Apr 2014 #19
This message was self-deleted by its author closeupready Apr 2014 #16
just like most racists are not secretly black. some are (or have been in the past) La Lioness Priyanka Apr 2014 #20
Homophobes are usually straight people who hate gays. DemocraticWing Apr 2014 #22
It's also fear. leftieNanner Apr 2014 #23
I think bi rather than gay. If you're bi, you can choose to engage only in opposite sex relations eridani Apr 2014 #25

displacedtexan

(15,696 posts)
4. Most homophobes are a**holes, who either A.) want to feel...
Tue Apr 8, 2014, 01:27 PM
Apr 2014

... superior to someone else; or B.) want to get money from other a**holes who want to feel superior to someone else.

BTW, both types are too stupid to know that they'll never be "superior" to anyone.

dilby

(2,273 posts)
7. I hate this statement.
Tue Apr 8, 2014, 01:32 PM
Apr 2014

Reason being is it implies most people who hate gays are gays thus there is something wrong with the gay community.

 

joeybee12

(56,177 posts)
9. I agree...but I think the comeback about spiders is that
Tue Apr 8, 2014, 01:57 PM
Apr 2014

person's way of showing that the initial statement makes no sense.

 

closeupready

(29,503 posts)
11. I disagree. The implication, to me, is that there is something wrong with society.
Tue Apr 8, 2014, 02:01 PM
Apr 2014

A society that condemns some segment of humanity is going to give birth to lots of self-hating members of that segment. Ergo, when someone is obsessed with condemning purple people, that person is likely somehow very close to being purple.

CJCRANE

(18,184 posts)
14. Many conservatives, whether gay or straight, are hypocrites.
Tue Apr 8, 2014, 02:05 PM
Apr 2014

This is the same whether it's adultery, accepting government benefits, abortion, teenage pregnancy, using porn etc.

They say one thing and do another.

Jamaal510

(10,893 posts)
24. +1
Wed Apr 9, 2014, 02:03 AM
Apr 2014

I have come across plenty of people over the years who did and said homophobic stuff (including some people in my own family), who are straight. Plus, homophobia was even more commonplace just a few years ago and before then. It used to be the norm to be a homophobe. If most people who hate gays did happen to be gay themselves, then I seriously doubt that the world's population would be as large as it is now.

Erich Bloodaxe BSN

(14,733 posts)
26. Agreed.
Wed Apr 9, 2014, 08:32 AM
Apr 2014

It's a slur on the queer community to suggest that all these asses, or even many of them, are actually queer.

CJCRANE

(18,184 posts)
8. Most conservatives are secretly human beings.
Tue Apr 8, 2014, 01:55 PM
Apr 2014

A lot of the things that conservatives rail against are things that they do, or want to do, themselves.

 

closeupready

(29,503 posts)
10. Why are homophobes obsessed with gay people?
Tue Apr 8, 2014, 01:59 PM
Apr 2014

Gay people aren't obsessed with homophobes.

There's something to this meme, IMO - I'm in the minority on that view in the GLBT community, but whenever someone is out there bashing gay people, and a photo or video is posted, my gaydar pings strongly about 80% of the time.

 

KamaAina

(78,249 posts)
12. Probably because, deep down, they're afraid they might be one.
Tue Apr 8, 2014, 02:01 PM
Apr 2014

And as we all know, that is the worst fate that could possibly befall a human being.

 

closeupready

(29,503 posts)
15. Agree, either because they ARE gay, or else they have gay fantasies, like 95%
Tue Apr 8, 2014, 02:11 PM
Apr 2014

of people. Okay, I just made up that statistic, but I think most studies have shown that most people do have homosexual fantasies of some kind.

A similar example of this would be someone like Roy Cohn who helped Establishment characters in blackmailing closeted gay people for obedience even though Cohn himself was gay. He even died of AIDS, but claimed he was ill with something else.

Behind the Aegis

(53,921 posts)
17. Some certainly are obsessed because of their own interalized homophobia.
Tue Apr 8, 2014, 02:34 PM
Apr 2014

However, most are not. They are simply bigots and hate/fear/despise gay people for a plethora of reasons, none of which have anything to do with a repressed or hidden sexual orientation or desires. IMO, too many people let homophobes off the hook by calling them gay; it is as if it is our problem and we need to address it, when it is, in fact, an issue within the non-gay community. Misogynists, by in large, have no desire to be women; though some do. Racists usually have no inkling of wanting to be Black/Asian/Latino, though some may certainly be jealous. Anti-Semites aren't making a run to be bar mitzvahed because they "secretly love the Jews." So, why is it homophobes are almost always and almost automatically assumed to be "secret gays?" One shitty little study, done almost 20 years ago, continues to poison the well.

Whereas gays may not be obsessed with homophobes, it stands to reason homophobes would be obsessed with gays, just as racists are obsessed with African-Americans (or other ethnic minorities), but it doesn't mean either secretly desire to be the object of their obsession/hate.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
13. Most arachnophobes don't attempt to establish legislation denying existence to arachnids.
Tue Apr 8, 2014, 02:04 PM
Apr 2014

Most arachnophobes don't attempt to establish legislation denying existence to arachnids.

ProfessorGAC

(64,852 posts)
19. Maybe They're Afraid Of Reprisal!
Tue Apr 8, 2014, 02:55 PM
Apr 2014

You know like laying spider eggs in the stomach and then everything goes all Alien one day.

Just kidding.

Not sure i buy the basic premise of the tweet, but it is a clever twist of logic.

Response to leftieNanner (Original post)

 

La Lioness Priyanka

(53,866 posts)
20. just like most racists are not secretly black. some are (or have been in the past)
Tue Apr 8, 2014, 02:57 PM
Apr 2014

, but most are just your run of the mill bigots

DemocraticWing

(1,290 posts)
22. Homophobes are usually straight people who hate gays.
Tue Apr 8, 2014, 05:41 PM
Apr 2014

And straight people should clean up their own mess, instead of pretending that it's gay people's fault.

leftieNanner

(15,062 posts)
23. It's also fear.
Wed Apr 9, 2014, 01:18 AM
Apr 2014

The homophobes have been taught that being gay is a "lifestyle choice" and a sin. Therefore, they act out against that fear in themselves. A good friend of mine's older brother was an uber conservative congressman who was pushing the constitutional amendment to ban marriage equality. He had something like a 98% approval rating from the Christian Coalition. He was outed by leaving a voice mail message trolling for a gay sexual encounter. I just thought it was such a sad thing for him to have lived his whole life in denial of who he was.

eridani

(51,907 posts)
25. I think bi rather than gay. If you're bi, you can choose to engage only in opposite sex relations
Wed Apr 9, 2014, 04:26 AM
Apr 2014

That's something that they tend to project onto actual gay people, who really don't have that choice.

Latest Discussions»General Discussion»"Most Homophobes are...