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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region Forums"Most Homophobes are secretly gay.
However, most arachnophobes are not secretly spiders."
Tweet I spotted on Daily Kos this morning.
Love it!
SidDithers
(44,228 posts)Good quote.
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(52,116 posts)leftieNanner
(15,062 posts)but not secretly.
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(52,116 posts)displacedtexan
(15,696 posts)... superior to someone else; or B.) want to get money from other a**holes who want to feel superior to someone else.
BTW, both types are too stupid to know that they'll never be "superior" to anyone.
Matariki
(18,775 posts)dilby
(2,273 posts)Reason being is it implies most people who hate gays are gays thus there is something wrong with the gay community.
joeybee12
(56,177 posts)person's way of showing that the initial statement makes no sense.
closeupready
(29,503 posts)A society that condemns some segment of humanity is going to give birth to lots of self-hating members of that segment. Ergo, when someone is obsessed with condemning purple people, that person is likely somehow very close to being purple.
CJCRANE
(18,184 posts)This is the same whether it's adultery, accepting government benefits, abortion, teenage pregnancy, using porn etc.
They say one thing and do another.
I have come across plenty of people over the years who did and said homophobic stuff (including some people in my own family), who are straight. Plus, homophobia was even more commonplace just a few years ago and before then. It used to be the norm to be a homophobe. If most people who hate gays did happen to be gay themselves, then I seriously doubt that the world's population would be as large as it is now.
Erich Bloodaxe BSN
(14,733 posts)It's a slur on the queer community to suggest that all these asses, or even many of them, are actually queer.
CJCRANE
(18,184 posts)A lot of the things that conservatives rail against are things that they do, or want to do, themselves.
closeupready
(29,503 posts)Gay people aren't obsessed with homophobes.
There's something to this meme, IMO - I'm in the minority on that view in the GLBT community, but whenever someone is out there bashing gay people, and a photo or video is posted, my gaydar pings strongly about 80% of the time.
KamaAina
(78,249 posts)And as we all know, that is the worst fate that could possibly befall a human being.
closeupready
(29,503 posts)of people. Okay, I just made up that statistic, but I think most studies have shown that most people do have homosexual fantasies of some kind.
A similar example of this would be someone like Roy Cohn who helped Establishment characters in blackmailing closeted gay people for obedience even though Cohn himself was gay. He even died of AIDS, but claimed he was ill with something else.
whopis01
(3,491 posts)studies show that 87% of statistics are made up.
Behind the Aegis
(53,921 posts)However, most are not. They are simply bigots and hate/fear/despise gay people for a plethora of reasons, none of which have anything to do with a repressed or hidden sexual orientation or desires. IMO, too many people let homophobes off the hook by calling them gay; it is as if it is our problem and we need to address it, when it is, in fact, an issue within the non-gay community. Misogynists, by in large, have no desire to be women; though some do. Racists usually have no inkling of wanting to be Black/Asian/Latino, though some may certainly be jealous. Anti-Semites aren't making a run to be bar mitzvahed because they "secretly love the Jews." So, why is it homophobes are almost always and almost automatically assumed to be "secret gays?" One shitty little study, done almost 20 years ago, continues to poison the well.
Whereas gays may not be obsessed with homophobes, it stands to reason homophobes would be obsessed with gays, just as racists are obsessed with African-Americans (or other ethnic minorities), but it doesn't mean either secretly desire to be the object of their obsession/hate.
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(29,503 posts)LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)Most arachnophobes don't attempt to establish legislation denying existence to arachnids.
ProfessorGAC
(64,852 posts)You know like laying spider eggs in the stomach and then everything goes all Alien one day.
Just kidding.
Not sure i buy the basic premise of the tweet, but it is a clever twist of logic.
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La Lioness Priyanka
(53,866 posts), but most are just your run of the mill bigots
DemocraticWing
(1,290 posts)And straight people should clean up their own mess, instead of pretending that it's gay people's fault.
leftieNanner
(15,062 posts)The homophobes have been taught that being gay is a "lifestyle choice" and a sin. Therefore, they act out against that fear in themselves. A good friend of mine's older brother was an uber conservative congressman who was pushing the constitutional amendment to ban marriage equality. He had something like a 98% approval rating from the Christian Coalition. He was outed by leaving a voice mail message trolling for a gay sexual encounter. I just thought it was such a sad thing for him to have lived his whole life in denial of who he was.
eridani
(51,907 posts)That's something that they tend to project onto actual gay people, who really don't have that choice.