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Purveyor

(29,876 posts)
Tue Apr 8, 2014, 07:17 PM Apr 2014

One Million Buried In Mass Graves On Forbidden New York Island

By Agence France-Presse
Tuesday, April 8, 2014 16:22 EDT

Most New Yorkers don’t even know it exists. But a million forgotten souls are buried in mass graves dug by convicts on a tiny, forbidden island east of the Bronx.

Since 1869, still-born babies, the homeless, the poor and the unclaimed have been stacked one upon the other, three coffins deep, on Hart Island.

Corpses are interned in great, anonymous trenches. There are no tombstones. Small white posts in the ground mark each 150 adult bodies. A thousand children and infants are buried together per grave.

--CLIP
Nearly 1,500 fresh corpses arrive each year, says visual artist Melinda Hunt, who heads the Hart Island Project, which campaigns to make the cemetery visible and accessible.

The authorities say nearly a million people have been buried here since 1869.

It is forbidden to film and photograph the uninhabited, windswept island. Visits must be authorized by the Department of Corrections, which runs the island.

MORE...

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/04/08/one-million-buried-in-mass-graves-on-forbidden-new-york-island/

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One Million Buried In Mass Graves On Forbidden New York Island (Original Post) Purveyor Apr 2014 OP
truly spooky warrprayer Apr 2014 #1
Wait a minute... 145 years times 1500 corpses Ron Green Apr 2014 #2
i think they got more long ago IronLionZion Apr 2014 #3
It has been said there are more people buried under New York Samantha Apr 2014 #4
Well, it's been around since the 17th century so... LiberalElite Apr 2014 #8
Well... It's Been Photographed... Never Heard Of This Place... Shocking And Sad... WillyT Apr 2014 #5
I suspect LiberalElite Apr 2014 #9
I'm Sorry For Your Loss... I Suppose There Are Potter's Graves All Over The Planet... WillyT Apr 2014 #14
Thank you - he LiberalElite Apr 2014 #15
Damn... WillyT Apr 2014 #17
Yeah - so much for fighting in a "good war" nt LiberalElite Apr 2014 #18
I think someone here in NYC LiberalElite Apr 2014 #20
From My Link Above About Photographs... WillyT Apr 2014 #21
Thanks - LiberalElite Apr 2014 #22
Good Luck !!! WillyT Apr 2014 #23
interesting MFM008 Apr 2014 #6
burying the caskets of babies ... kwassa Apr 2014 #7
I first read about the island in a Douglas Preston/Lincoln Child novel rudolph the red Apr 2014 #10
Cremation might be a good turn, easier on everybody. toby jo Apr 2014 #11
"It is forbidden to film and photograph the uninhabited, windswept island." Spitfire of ATJ Apr 2014 #12
Well, I certainly am glad defacto7 Apr 2014 #13
Do you think anyone should just be allowed out there? ProudToBeBlueInRhody Apr 2014 #27
Nah... defacto7 Apr 2014 #29
So fucking not. lonestarnot Apr 2014 #28
Most New Yorkers know about this gruesome site. JaneyVee Apr 2014 #16
That is some creepy stuff... Jesus Malverde Apr 2014 #19
if there ever was a place in need of a crematorium... aikoaiko Apr 2014 #24
Two problems with that . . . . markpkessinger Apr 2014 #30
There's a potters field out near the Salton Sea XemaSab Apr 2014 #25
I think most New Yorkers do know it exists. ProudToBeBlueInRhody Apr 2014 #26

Samantha

(9,314 posts)
4. It has been said there are more people buried under New York
Tue Apr 8, 2014, 09:32 PM
Apr 2014

than there are living above ground. I believe that just might be true. It is an eerie thought.

Sam

LiberalElite

(14,691 posts)
8. Well, it's been around since the 17th century so...
Tue Apr 8, 2014, 09:57 PM
Apr 2014

BTW, The Borough of Queens (a/k/a Queens County) is a virtual Cemetery Central.

http://queens.about.com/od/Cemeteries/tp/Cemeteries-in-Queens.htm

(scroll down past the various ads for the full list)

 

WillyT

(72,631 posts)
14. I'm Sorry For Your Loss... I Suppose There Are Potter's Graves All Over The Planet...
Tue Apr 8, 2014, 10:17 PM
Apr 2014
A potter's field or common grave is a term for a place for the burial of unknown or indigent people. The expression derives from the Bible, referring to a field used for the extraction of potter's clay; such land, useless for agriculture, could be used as a burial site.


Link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Potter's_field




LiberalElite

(14,691 posts)
15. Thank you - he
Tue Apr 8, 2014, 10:23 PM
Apr 2014

was a WWII vet (Battle of the Bulge) and I suspect he had PTSD but it wasn't called that back then. After the war he joined the NYFD and got married and then things fell apart. He went AWOL from the NYFD, became a dishwasher. He'd show up unexpectedly from time to time (we lived in NYC). Last we heard from him was 50 years ago and I don't think he would have died "out of town". Sad.

LiberalElite

(14,691 posts)
20. I think someone here in NYC
Tue Apr 8, 2014, 10:36 PM
Apr 2014

is trying to get Hart Island opened up so people can visit. If that happens I'm going to try to find Uncle Bob.

 

WillyT

(72,631 posts)
21. From My Link Above About Photographs...
Tue Apr 8, 2014, 10:44 PM
Apr 2014


Looks like someone kept records.

And there's this: http://hartisland.net/

You might want to contact them...




 

rudolph the red

(666 posts)
10. I first read about the island in a Douglas Preston/Lincoln Child novel
Tue Apr 8, 2014, 09:59 PM
Apr 2014

I couldn't believe that it actually existed, much less that it is still in use today. While researching their novel, Douglas Preston and his wife made an unauthorized landing and tour of the island and ended up getting caught. He tells the story and includes some photos at their website, it's pretty exciting.

http://www.prestonchild.com/books/gideonssword/hartisland/What-Is-Buried-on-Hart-Island;art321,363

 

Spitfire of ATJ

(32,723 posts)
12. "It is forbidden to film and photograph the uninhabited, windswept island."
Tue Apr 8, 2014, 10:03 PM
Apr 2014

A major producer of Soylent Green.

defacto7

(13,485 posts)
13. Well, I certainly am glad
Tue Apr 8, 2014, 10:09 PM
Apr 2014

that island is cared for by a group that is as thoughtful and trustworthy as the Department of Corrections. If they say no cameras or entrance allowed without their permission it must be for good reason.

not

ProudToBeBlueInRhody

(16,399 posts)
27. Do you think anyone should just be allowed out there?
Wed Apr 9, 2014, 12:56 AM
Apr 2014

I can only imagine what would happen if a few idiot "ghost hunters" showed up.

 

JaneyVee

(19,877 posts)
16. Most New Yorkers know about this gruesome site.
Tue Apr 8, 2014, 10:23 PM
Apr 2014

Half of those buried on Hart Island are under age 5. You can see the island from Bronx and Queens.

Jesus Malverde

(10,274 posts)
19. That is some creepy stuff...
Tue Apr 8, 2014, 10:35 PM
Apr 2014
It is forbidden to film and photograph the uninhabited, windswept island.

Some things need the light of Day.

markpkessinger

(8,392 posts)
30. Two problems with that . . . .
Wed Apr 9, 2014, 03:03 AM
Apr 2014

(1) Some folks have religious objections to cremation; and

(2) According to the Wikipedia entry for Hart Island, it is not uncommon for bodies that have been buried on Hart Island to be later identified by loved ones from medical examiner photos, and then to be disinterred and disposed of according to the wishes of the loved ones. Cremation would eliminate that possibility.

XemaSab

(60,212 posts)
25. There's a potters field out near the Salton Sea
Tue Apr 8, 2014, 11:03 PM
Apr 2014

for "illegal" immigrants.

I stumbled across it accidentally.

Very depressing.

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