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CATHERINE THOMPSON APRIL 9, 2014, 8:52 AM EDT
Former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee (R) told a crowd in Iowa on Tuesday that he's just "on the right side of the Bible" in opposing gay marriage, "not homophobic."
Delivering the keynote address to the Iowa Faith and Freedom Coalition, Huckabee said he didn't "care what people do personally in their individual lives," according to CNN.
"I'm not against anybody. I'm really not," he said. "I'm not a hater. I'm not homophobic."
"But
when people say, 'Why don't you just kind of get on the right side of history?' I said, 'You've got to understand, this for me is not about the right side or the wrong side of history, this is the right side of the Bible, and unless God rewrites it, edits it, sends it down with his signature on it, it's not my book to change,'" he added, as quoted by CNN.
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CJCRANE
(18,184 posts)I think we should hold him to that.
DetlefK
(16,423 posts)Maybe the Huckabees should try to live a biblical life for a year.
- No grooming beards.
- No mixed fibers.
- No working on the Sabbath.
- No investments or loans with interest.
- Not touching Mrs. Huckabee when she's menstruating.
- The obligatory sacrifices to Jehovah.
- The dietary restrictments.
- ...
The empressof all
(29,098 posts)Leviticus 19:28 reads, "You shall not make any cuts in your body for the dead nor make any tattoo marks on yourselves: I am the Lord."
Coventina
(27,093 posts)Believe me, many fundies still believe in that one!!!
warrant46
(2,205 posts)Restrictions against Those with Blemishes
18 For no one who has a blemish shall draw near, a man blind or lame, or one who has a mutilated face or a limb too long, 19 or a man who has a broken foot or broken hand, 20 or a hunchback or a dwarf, or one who has a defect in his eye or eczema or scabs or crushed testicles. 21 No man among the descendants of Aaron the priest who has a defect is to come near to offer the LORD'S offerings by fire; since he has a defect, he shall not come near to offer the food of his God.
3catwoman3
(23,969 posts)...abides by #5.
treestar
(82,383 posts)themselves, except for this one thing.
Johonny
(20,829 posts)there are laws I want to follow so God says you have to follow them and rules that clearly God didn't mean for us to follow. Paul never seems to hammer out how people are supposed to figure out which is which but given he thought the world was ending in his lifetime perhaps we shouldn't hold it against him. On the other hand it means people like Huckabee that think they know are full of *.
chelsea0011
(10,115 posts)No free passes here.
Atman
(31,464 posts)Fixed.
CJCRANE
(18,184 posts)A HERETIC I AM
(24,365 posts)As has been pointed out in the past, people like him don't have a "phobia" - he's not afraid of homosexuals.
He's just an asshole.
Sheepshank
(12,504 posts)finding hate, and homophobic messages in books, religious text and movies are all signs of the phobia he is denying. He must think we are all idiots.
Puglover
(16,380 posts)The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,661 posts)How about clam chowder? Do you wear clothes made of different kinds of threads? Do you do any work on Sundays? The Bible says you can't do those things.
Some years ago somebody wrote this letter to "Dr." Laura Schlesinger. Maybe Huckster should see it, too.
Thank you for doing so much to educate people regarding God's Law. I have learned a great deal from your show, and try to share that knowledge with as many people as I can. When someone tries to defend the homosexual lifestyle, for example, I simply remind them that Leviticus 18:22 clearly states it to be an abomination. End of debate. I do need some advice from you, however, regarding some of the other specific laws and how to follow them:
When I burn a bull on the altar as a sacrifice, I know it creates a pleasing odor for the Lord - Lev.1: 9. The problem is my neighbors. They claim the odor is not pleasing to them. Should I smite them?
I would like to sell my daughter into slavery, as sanctioned in Exodus 21: 7. In this day and age, what do you think would be a fair price for her?
I know that I am allowed no contact with a woman while she is in her period of menstrual uncleanliness - Lev.15:19- 24. The problem is, how do I tell? I have tried asking, but most women take offense.
Lev. 25:44 states that I may indeed possess slaves, both male and female, provided they are purchased from neighboring nations. A friend of mine claims that this applies to Mexicans, but not Canadians. Can you clarify? Why can't I own Canadians?
I have a neighbor who insists on working on the Sabbath. Exodus 35:2 clearly states he should be put to death. Am I morally obligated to kill him myself?
A friend of mine feels that even though eating shellfish is an abomination - Lev. 11:10, it is a lesser abomination than homosexuality. I don't agree. Can you settle this?
Lev. 21:20 states that I may not approach the altar of God if I have a defect in my sight. I have to admit that I wear reading glasses. Does my vision have to be 20/20, or is there some wiggle room here?
Most of my male friends get their hair trimmed, including the hair around their temples, even though this is expressly forbidden by Lev. 19:27. How should they die?
I know from Lev. 11:6-8 that touching the skin of a dead pig makes me unclean, but may I still play football if I wear gloves?
My uncle has a farm. He violates Lev. 19:19 by planting two different crops in the same field, as does his wife by wearing garments made of two different kinds of thread (cotton/polyester blend). He also tends to curse and blaspheme a lot. Is it really necessary that we go to all the trouble of getting the whole town together to stone them? - Lev.24:10-16. Couldn't we just burn them to death at a private family affair like we do with people who sleep with their in-laws? (Lev. 20:14)
I know you have studied these things extensively, so I am confident you can help. Thank you again for reminding us that God's word is eternal and unchanging.
dhill926
(16,336 posts)mockery is a strong tool...
awoke_in_2003
(34,582 posts)footballs haven't been made of pigskin in quite some time.
Lex
(34,108 posts)LondonReign2
(5,213 posts)Who the hell was his editor?
unblock
(52,183 posts)religious assh*les have always found god in writings that support slavery, subjugation of women, discrimination against jews, atheists, gays, and so on.
they also tell us that god is all around us and in the sunset and so on.
but when millions of people march hand in hand on washington to peacefully fight for fair and equal treatment, and after years of refusing to yield bus seats and asking for the right to vote and insisting on equal rights and laws to enforce it and courts to enforce it and for those actions to gradually lead to a sea change in public attitudes and acceptance --
-- no, there's no god in that. god's stuck in this old book, suddenly he's not all around us.
"... unless god rewrites it, edits it, sends it down with his signature on it, it's not my book to change"? look around you and see how god has rewritten his old texts. god doesn't believe in your bigotry.
TBF
(32,041 posts)to blame everything on they would have to write it themselves. Of course if you read the various myths through the years you can see folks did just that ...
atreides1
(16,070 posts)So, that means any budget plan from Ryan, making cuts to programs helping the poor and weak...should already be DOA with Huckabee and the rest of the Thumpers like him?
CJCRANE
(18,184 posts)and that people did edit and rewrite the Bible several hundred times.
JEFF9K
(1,935 posts)... especially the New Testament.
stopbush
(24,395 posts)Is slavery a liberal policy? Paul informs people on how to treat their slaves in the NT. Not a word about slavery being an evil.
How about misogyny? Is that a liberal policy? Are patriarchal forms of tribalism liberal?
The only thing in the NT that's liberal is the Bible's version of the Golden Rule, and that rule is common to many philosophies.
JEFF9K
(1,935 posts)Is helping the poor a non-liberal policy? Is being against the wealthy a non-liberal policy? Is being anti-war a non-liberal policy? ...
uppityperson
(115,677 posts)Hip_Flask
(233 posts)....because.... *drum roll* .... it was written by dozens/hundreds of authors all with an individual agenda.
Humanist_Activist
(7,670 posts)that's its biggest strength and weakness, its inconsistent.
WillyT
(72,631 posts)What has always cracked me up.... is that so-called 'Fundamentalist Christians" are really really close to being Jewish. (The old Testament and the Torah) And I doubt they'd appreciate that...
Not that there is anything wrong with that.
But we go from and eye for an eye, to turn the other cheek, going from old to new Ts...
I think Jesus could be interpreted as the most well known Liberal on the planet.
But... that not what the powers that be, want.
treestar
(82,383 posts)Ironic that.
Tikki
(14,556 posts)Tikki
Coventina
(27,093 posts)interest is always ignored?
ChazInAz
(2,564 posts)For the Jubilee Year, when all debts are forgiven.
Coventina
(27,093 posts)You win!!
Take your bow!!!!
BeeBee
(1,074 posts)stopbush
(24,395 posts)Rex
(65,616 posts)On the proper use of wealth? 250
On caring for the poor? 300 plus
SO I GUESS we see which particular issue is the most important to worthless, rightwing lunatics like Huckabee.
Huckabee is a total fucking HATER. How much time does he spend talking about feeding the poor? EXACTLY.
eShirl
(18,490 posts)safeinOhio
(32,658 posts)"Jesus said to him, "If you wish to be complete, go and sell your possessions and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven; and come, follow Me."
Blue Owl
(50,340 posts)n/t
MNBrewer
(8,462 posts)Arkana
(24,347 posts)to justify your unjustifiable bigotry.
Protip: when you have to keep saying "I don't hate! I don't hate!" it means you're a hateful bastard.
ismnotwasm
(41,975 posts)There are theologians who think that 1) the passages are misinterpreted or taken out of context 2) refer to other religious practices and rites. Remember, we're dealing with a jealous God here-- he said he was. Wrote it in stone. Actually referred to "other Gods".
OT god dude was pretty much an asshole and St. Paul of the NT not only never met Jesus, had his own issues with assholery
FlyByNight
(1,756 posts)Or just those parts which conveniently appear to support and validate your political outlook?
The "right side of the Bible?" I'm sure the Crusaders thought the same way. Or the Inquisitors, etc., etc.
Homophobe. Hater. Hypocrite.
mdbl
(4,973 posts)Rightwingnuts all have tunnel vision.
RainDog
(28,784 posts)Huckabee - you're still on the wrong side of history - and funny that the bible suddenly didn't endorse segregation when it was simply no longer considered a viable stance outside of the most bigoted in the American population - which is where you stand at this point in regard to homosexual civil rights.
Initech
(100,060 posts)Major Nikon
(36,827 posts)tanyev
(42,541 posts)Other gods before Jahweh -- not illegal
Making a graven image -- not illegal
Taking the name of God in vain -- not illegal
Not honoring the Sabbath day -- not illegal
Not honoring parents -- not illegal
Killing -- illegal
Adultery -- bad, but not illegal
Stealing -- illegal
Bearing false witness -- illegal only in specific circumstances
Coveting -- not illegal as long as you take no illegal action toward said coveted item
They're perfectly happy living in a world where adultery is not against the law. Why can't they deal with a world where gay marriage is legal, even if they still believe it is wrong?
Mr Know-It-All
(5 posts)Killing -- not illegal (murder & manslaughter are illegal... "killing" is not only legal, it's common. Think; death penalty, wars, police actions, "Stand Your Ground" etc).
Stealing -- not illegal (We, as a society, just prefer that you do your stealing using one or more of the following; a lawyer, a politician, a billionaire, a corporation, or an army)
As it turns out, "Gods Law" is full of "gray areas"... it's all in the details... ~MK
sinkingfeeling
(51,444 posts)that you soooo believe in? I thought it was a compilation of a bunch of writers and the rejection of a bunch of writings from the same time period put together by the Council of Nicea in 325 AD.
rtracey
(2,062 posts)Sorry to disappoint you Huckabee, but Jesus and GOD actually hate you and people like you. You abuse Jesus and GOD too spell out your own type of hate, and one day you are HELL bound...hahahahha seeya loser
Eleanors38
(18,318 posts)gollygee
(22,336 posts)to see if he mixes any different kinds of fibers.
backscatter712
(26,355 posts)Yeah, Hucklebee. Take your borderline-personality skydaddy and inflict him on someone else!
Bonx
(2,053 posts)every time this issue gets walked around in public.
NastyRiffraff
(12,448 posts)"God" didn't write, edit, or sign the original. As many ha e pointed out, the bible was written by many over a period of thousands of years. Hence, the many contradictions within it.
packman
(16,296 posts)have been altering, editing, and updating that book since it was formed from a collection of writings about Jesus . Even Tom Jefferson (inspired by God, I'm sure ) rewrote the Bible.
Wikipedia has a list of EARLY incomplete Bibles, INCOMPLETE Bibles and "Offically" recognized Bibles from Gutenberg's first pressing to the New Age Bible.
Quite a list - I got tired of counting the different versions.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_English_Bible_translations
Jeff In Milwaukee
(13,992 posts)will start stoning people any moment now....
To use an Old Testament phrase -- What a putz!
Prophet 451
(9,796 posts)If the Big Beard did send down a revision saying "the queers are fine by me", Huckabee would just "interpret" it to mean whatever he wanted to do anyway. And what he wants to do is clearly to be homophobic. I'm sick of bigots hiding their hate behind teh Bible.
Ccarmona
(1,180 posts)he's on the "right side" of the Bible, because just like him, the Bible is mostly fiction.
edbermac
(15,937 posts)And that beats your Bible any day and twice on Sunday.
Tsiyu
(18,186 posts)Nice post!
Orsino
(37,428 posts)...and a copy of the Bible may be buried underneath.
3catwoman3
(23,969 posts)...change the spelling of his last name so it starts with an "F."
Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)He should also know God does not make mistakes and it is all of God's people, not the one Huckabee chooses.
regnaD kciN
(26,044 posts)Let's see...seize upon a handful of minor passages and interpret them without any knowledge of the cultural situation or even the language involved, and pronounce it the clear-cut Word Of God, while denying similar status to equally clear (or not) passages forbidding remarriage after divorce, and flat-out ignoring the vastly higher-number and less-questionable passages condemning greed and making it a divine imperative to care for the poor and weak among us.
Sounds just about normal to me.
madinmaryland
(64,931 posts)mr blur
(7,753 posts)Beartracks
(12,806 posts)Vashta Nerada
(3,922 posts)allan01
(1,950 posts)so. does feeding the poor talking to the prisoner , helping the widow. the begger , make me on the left side of the bible .love thy neighbor as thy self , which hangs all the laws and prophets .
WinkyDink
(51,311 posts)I guess he thinks God used one of those astronaut pens.
DallasNE
(7,402 posts)He is just mouthing what the Bible says in certain passages that are homophobic in nature. But that doesn't explain why he is so anxious to focus on those words.
Jamaal510
(10,893 posts)would realize that he's only hurting his cause now. It's primarily because of people like him the reason why more people than ever are being turned off by Christianity (and religion in general), and it's a shame.
Again, this man is nothing but a disgrace and a fraud.
treestar
(82,383 posts)So polygamy must be OK too. Why is he not advocating for that? And for laws against wearing clothes of more than one fabric? Why don't we have menstrual huts? This is just an excuse for these people.