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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region Forums"the capitalist organization of production has now finished its period of usefulness in human histor
Richard Wolff has emerged as one of the most prominent progressive economists in America. He appears on Free Speech TV, Link TV, and Pacifica Radio, and has been a repeat guest on Bill Moyerss program, as well as appearing on Charlie Roses show. His books include Capitalism Hits the Fan, Occupy the Economy, and Democracy at Work. Wolff got his B.A. from Harvard, a Masters from Stanford, and a Ph.D. in economics from Yale. He is a professor emeritus at the University of Massachusetts in Amherst and a visiting professor in the graduate program for international affairs at the New School University in Manhattan, where he lives. Born in 1942 in Youngstown, Ohio, hes the son of working class parents who were refugees from the Nazis. After his family moved around the Midwest, they relocated to New York. In the 1980s, Wolff ran to be New Havens mayor and city councilman on the Green Party ticket.
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Q: Why do business leaders in the United States and Western Europe favor austerity? Doesnt it reduce demand for their products, and thus lower their potential profits?
Wolff: The question is good. Why are executives of corporations constantly looking for every conceivable way to lower labor costs? The more successful capitalists are in cutting their wage costs, the less money workers will have to buy back what those same capitalists produce. Its a contradiction.
Sure, businesses would like lots of purchases. But the only way to deal with a depressed economy would be to tax the rich, who are hoarding their money, and move it into the hands of the middle and lower classes, because theyre in a situation where theyll spend it as fast as they get it. That would solve the problem of demand, but only at the expense of the rich and corporations.
Theyve made a choice: Theyd rather tough it outstick it to the mass of people, even at the cost of losing customersthan be the one who gets hit with the tab for boosting the masses purchasing power.
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Q: Whats the alternative?
Wolff: A cooperative enterprise is the key alternative to a traditional capitalist enterprise. All the workers, whatever they do inside an enterprise, have to be able to participate in collectively arriving at the decisions about what, how, where to produce, and what to do with the profits in a democratic way. One person, one vote should decide how these things are done.
The reason why were interested in making a transition from the top-down capitalist organization of enterprises to a radically different cooperative or democratic organization is simple: We believe the capitalist organization of production has now finished its period of usefulness in human history. It is now no longer able to deliver the goods.
Its bringing profits and prosperity to a tiny portion of the population, and delivering not the goods but the bads to most people. Jobs are steadily more insecure, unemployment is high and lastingly high, benefits are increasingly being reduced, and the prospects for our children are even worse, as more of them go deeper and deeper in debt to get the degrees that do not provide them with the jobs and incomes to get out of that debt. ..................(more)
The complete piece is at: http://rdwolff.com/content/progressive-interview
hunter
(38,310 posts)"Economic productivity," as it is currently defined, is directly correlated with the exploitation and destruction of natural resources and the abuse of working people.
A sustainable society isn't going to be based on marketing and consumerism simply because there are too many people here on Earth to support the "first world" consumer lifestyles (as we now know them) for everyone.
But that doesn't mean we must tolerate "austerity" as it is now imposed by the financial system.
If we start with the basics of universal safe comfortable housing, good food, clean air and water, appropriate medical care, 100% literacy, then there will be plenty of employment, and plenty of leisure time for all. working conditions will not be abusive.
Then wherever society goes will be determined by many diverse democratic processes. What goes away is the empire building, both financial and political. In the U.S.A., and in China, what's happened is that the political empire building has merged with the financial empire building and created a monster that abuses workers and destroys the natural environment worldwide.
scarletwoman
(31,893 posts)bread_and_roses
(6,335 posts)socialist_n_TN
(11,481 posts)But we won't get it without socialism. Or you can call it "economic democracy" if socialism is too loaded of a word. The real question is "How to get there?"
hunter
(38,310 posts)Oddly, my Army Air Force grandfather may have been one of the officers Jacque Fresco interacted with after he was drafted in 1942, and not in a good way.
When World War II ended the Army Air Force released all the eccentric technical people, including my grandfather.
marmar
(77,073 posts)cprise
(8,445 posts)A reduced work week and guaranteed access to birth control (including early-term abortion) would curb some of the worst social factors that are ailing the ecosphere.
We would have more steady income for more people, but with less consumer excess and overpopulation problems (not to mention a reduction in sexism and its associated problems).
rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)We will always have some members of society that believe that accumulated wealth is the measure of success. Unless we can keep them under control we will have problems.
malaise
(268,930 posts)It's as dead as Soviet communism but it's propped up with life support tubes - a la government subsidies for the rich.
DeSwiss
(27,137 posts)...Wolff is quite candid on these same points. If we ever do go coop, it'll have to be from the top-down. I've tried it the other way and it doesn't work.
- If you have the time, it's worth a watch:
K&R
http://vimeo.com/20355767
[font color=red]It's time to wake up people.[/font]
pragmatic_dem
(410 posts)daleanime
(17,796 posts)Anansi1171
(793 posts)CK_John
(10,005 posts)is the first step to solving the problem.
Workers who are "teched out" or burned out need a socially acceptable relief system.
They can go fishing, return to school, or invent the next robot in their garage.
rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)xchrom
(108,903 posts)KG
(28,751 posts)RainDog
(28,784 posts)TBF
(32,047 posts)We have nothing to lose but our chains, and we have a world to win.
I like Richard Wolff - he says it in a way folks today can understand. Good OP.
rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)We are running out of natural resources to exploit so it's become easier to steal wealth (investment banking) than make wealth.
Stealing wealth is socially acceptable. It's considered "good business". The reason we have so many people in prison is that it is an effective way to steal the wealth of the middle class. Same goes for the defense department and banking industry.