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Sarah Ibarruri

(21,043 posts)
Sun Apr 13, 2014, 11:44 AM Apr 2014

Florida shutting down the bathrooms at Miami-Dade County Elections polling facilities - my state :(

Sign the petition: Urge the DOJ to investigate new Florida voting rule which closes all restrooms at polling places on Election Day

Petitioning
U.S. Attorney General Eric Holder
Created By
Daily Kos
Remember how bad the voter lines were on Election Day in 2012? In Florida, some stayed in line for over six hours.

And now, they won’t be able to use the bathroom. The Miami-Dade County Elections Department has quietly implemented a policy to close the bathrooms at all polling facilities.

Voters would have to choose between voting, or using the bathroom.

Make no mistake about it. This is a political scheme to depress voter turnout in a heavily Democratic county, and it’s also probably illegal for violating basic disability law.

Sign the petition: Urge U.S. Attorney General Eric Holder to investigate this new Florida voting rule which closes all restrooms at polling places on Election Day.

Petition Text
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Our Message to U.S. Attorney General Eric Holder
Miami-Dade County’s new rule to close restrooms at polling places will depress voter turnout, considering that we saw voting lines in the last presidential election of over six hours.

It is also probably illegal, as people with disabilities must use the bathroom more frequently.

Please open a federal investigation on the legality of this new Florida rule.

https://www.dailykos.com/campaigns/771

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Florida shutting down the bathrooms at Miami-Dade County Elections polling facilities - my state :( (Original Post) Sarah Ibarruri Apr 2014 OP
Isn't this a heavily Democratic district??? MohRokTah Apr 2014 #1
Miami-Dade???? It's pure GOP. The Cubans there have turning it GOP since the 60s. You mean Sarah Ibarruri Apr 2014 #4
Not exactly true. HooptieWagon Apr 2014 #16
Miami Dade is not pure GOP, it has voted Democratic since 1996 CreekDog Apr 2014 #28
As far as the registered voters in Florida? Yup. As far as who shows up at the polls, and whether Sarah Ibarruri Apr 2014 #37
This message was self-deleted by its author CreekDog Apr 2014 #38
why don't people just vote absentee warrior1 Apr 2014 #2
Its Florida. I wouldnt be so sure. JaneyVee Apr 2014 #7
I literally hate voting absentee, plus you can't suddenly have a retraining of the population to get Sarah Ibarruri Apr 2014 #8
It's easier and you can take time to review the issues with out someone waiting for their turn warrior1 Apr 2014 #11
Again, why must libs be forced by Repukes to be dancing around the ring to avoid getting Sarah Ibarruri Apr 2014 #13
let's just say about 1/3 of democratic voters, vote absentee warrior1 Apr 2014 #15
Rick Scott cut the number of Early Voting Days HockeyMom Apr 2014 #33
I vote absentee here in Georgia because I hate standing in line. n/t RebelOne Apr 2014 #18
Absentee voting has some disadvantage here in Florida. edgineered Apr 2014 #27
I think it is the Provisional Ballots HockeyMom Apr 2014 #32
Thanks HockeyMom, edgineered Apr 2014 #34
"Lookie here!" "We got ourselves a Democrat!" HockeyMom Apr 2014 #35
Confusion that shouldn't exist. elleng Apr 2014 #3
Men can pee anywhere. This is sexist, to suppress JaneyVee Apr 2014 #5
Excuse me, but men need plumbing as well, it is illegal and crude to 'pee anywhere' and Bluenorthwest Apr 2014 #22
NOT standing in line. Outside before voting, JaneyVee Apr 2014 #24
Where do you live where you see men peeing everywhere outside? oneofthe99 Apr 2014 #29
This is unbelievable!! spartan61 Apr 2014 #6
They probably do. It's one of their favorite and most evil activities - depressing the vote nt Sarah Ibarruri Apr 2014 #10
Not to worry, both parties are corporate-owned Wall St. banksta apologists anyway BeyondGeography Apr 2014 #9
That sounds exactly like the comments made by Republicans when I win an argument! "Well, they're Sarah Ibarruri Apr 2014 #12
Just when I thought the sleazy couldn't get any sleazier. What asswipes. nt valerief Apr 2014 #14
Why not get local Dem parties to set up Port-A-Potties? HooptieWagon Apr 2014 #17
All the Democrats need to do is borrow avebury Apr 2014 #19
Isn't that illegal? 2naSalit Apr 2014 #20
How about setting up Porta-Potties in GOP areas packman Apr 2014 #21
Floridians are too lazy to reform their voting laws and every few years, they do some new Bluenorthwest Apr 2014 #23
Whoever is responsible for this needs to be hunted down and dealt with harshly. nt ChisolmTrailDem Apr 2014 #25
So the message, no one come by here? WhiteTara Apr 2014 #26
I have been googling this for a little while and from what I understand oneofthe99 Apr 2014 #30
Done davidpdx Apr 2014 #31
Unbelievable spinbaby Apr 2014 #36
 

MohRokTah

(15,429 posts)
1. Isn't this a heavily Democratic district???
Sun Apr 13, 2014, 11:46 AM
Apr 2014

I don't get it. It's like they WANT people to not vote.

And wasn't this the place with the famous butterfly ballot from 2000?

Sarah Ibarruri

(21,043 posts)
4. Miami-Dade???? It's pure GOP. The Cubans there have turning it GOP since the 60s. You mean
Sun Apr 13, 2014, 11:48 AM
Apr 2014

Palm Beach County, where the Repukes took advantage of a problem with the ballots to spend millions on forcing their way.

 

HooptieWagon

(17,064 posts)
16. Not exactly true.
Sun Apr 13, 2014, 01:19 PM
Apr 2014

Only first-generation Cubans are pure GOP. Each successive generation is increasingly Democratic. Third and fourth gen Cuban-Americans have demographics like Hispanics in general ( 75% Dem). And of course, Cubans aren't the only Hispanics in Miami-Dade, nor are Hispanics the only race.

CreekDog

(46,192 posts)
28. Miami Dade is not pure GOP, it has voted Democratic since 1996
Mon Apr 14, 2014, 12:25 AM
Apr 2014

for president at least.

in fact, Obama carried 62% of the vote there in 2012, 58% in 2008, Kerry had 53% in 2004, Gore 53% in 2000, Clinton won the county in 96 with 58% in 1996 and 47% in 1992.

and the Cuban American vote has been trending towards the Democrats in recent years.

Sarah Ibarruri

(21,043 posts)
37. As far as the registered voters in Florida? Yup. As far as who shows up at the polls, and whether
Tue Apr 15, 2014, 10:37 PM
Apr 2014

they are allowed to vote or not, that's a whole 'nother story.

Response to Sarah Ibarruri (Reply #37)

Sarah Ibarruri

(21,043 posts)
8. I literally hate voting absentee, plus you can't suddenly have a retraining of the population to get
Sun Apr 13, 2014, 11:51 AM
Apr 2014

them to vote absentee. I also wouldn't trust absentee as far as I could throw it, though I've voted that way before because in this country it's simply a pain in the ass to vote in person too.

Lastly, why should we be forced to be the country that votes absentee?

Not trying to argue with you, but why must we constantly be faced with Repuke-caused problems that we then have to figure out ways to "get around" somehow so we don't get hurt?

warrior1

(12,325 posts)
11. It's easier and you can take time to review the issues with out someone waiting for their turn
Sun Apr 13, 2014, 11:54 AM
Apr 2014

and how do you know they don't count your vote? Couldn't you say that with voting in person? After you fill out the ballot you could bring to the polling station and hand it in. It could work.

It's faster and I have my own bathroom.

Sarah Ibarruri

(21,043 posts)
13. Again, why must libs be forced by Repukes to be dancing around the ring to avoid getting
Sun Apr 13, 2014, 11:59 AM
Apr 2014

hit as they constantly come up with new BS to depress the vote? And why must we ever, ever be "OKAY" with that and be finding some way to not be hurt by them, instead of fighting them fully frontal and directly? Every country I've lived in, can vote at the polls and not have problems like these. But we? We have to constantly be finding ways to avoid getting hurt by the Repukes, and our solution is, "Okay, let's try this and see if they don't hurt us that way."

Maybe there's an answer to that.

warrior1

(12,325 posts)
15. let's just say about 1/3 of democratic voters, vote absentee
Sun Apr 13, 2014, 12:02 PM
Apr 2014

it would ease the voting lines. I know it's not the best solution, but for some people that may really want to avoid the hassle.

Until they give us more voting times and areas in which to vote, I don't think they will unless DOJ gets involved, this could work.

edgineered

(2,101 posts)
27. Absentee voting has some disadvantage here in Florida.
Sun Apr 13, 2014, 11:46 PM
Apr 2014

I don't know the specifics, but I read somewhere that the absentee ballots may not be counted if the officials believe them unable to sway the vote. In this day and age, in this state especially, I want to make damn sure that my vote is counted.

Does anyone here know how it actually does work in Florida?

 

HockeyMom

(14,337 posts)
32. I think it is the Provisional Ballots
Mon Apr 14, 2014, 07:59 AM
Apr 2014

which aren't counted unless the the election is close. They do count the Absentee Ballots.

 

HockeyMom

(14,337 posts)
35. "Lookie here!" "We got ourselves a Democrat!"
Mon Apr 14, 2014, 08:11 AM
Apr 2014

A poll worker yelled that out the first, and last, time I voted at the polls in Florida. Do I trust voting like that in a very Red area of Florida? Hell, no.

I got an absentee ballot. Last election I was in NY when Sandy hit and was worried about mailing it. I got back the day before the election. Early voting had ended and no time to mail it. I two choices. Bring the ballot to the polls on election day, or take it myself to the Supervisor of Elections office. It was a normal 9 to 5 working day there. I went in, handed it to the clerk, and walked out. No lines. No humiliation.

I am going to do this from now on; absentee ballot, and hand carry to the elections office.

elleng

(130,865 posts)
3. Confusion that shouldn't exist.
Sun Apr 13, 2014, 11:48 AM
Apr 2014

'But when CBS4 contacted the Elections Department for comment Thursday, Chief Deputy Supervisor of Elections Christina White wrote “In actuality, the Elections Department does not have a specific policy for bathroom usage… Public facilities of course have restrooms that are open to the public. In the case of private facilities, we defer to the owner/operators policy on the use of their restroom.”'

http://miami.cbslocal.com/2014/04/10/commode-confusion-can-miami-dade-voters-use-restrooms-at-polling-places-or-not/

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
22. Excuse me, but men need plumbing as well, it is illegal and crude to 'pee anywhere' and
Sun Apr 13, 2014, 02:41 PM
Apr 2014

disgusting that you would claim men can pee while standing in line. Sexist twaddle.

spartan61

(2,091 posts)
6. This is unbelievable!!
Sun Apr 13, 2014, 11:50 AM
Apr 2014

I'm sure the repugs must stay up all night thinking of ways to depress the vote. Now they are scraping the bottom of the barrel for reasons to prevent voting. What are they saying is the reason for this stupid new voting rule? BTW, I also live in Florida and I stood in line for three hours in 2012. Any longer than that and I would have had to use a bathroom. This is insanity!

Sarah Ibarruri

(21,043 posts)
12. That sounds exactly like the comments made by Republicans when I win an argument! "Well, they're
Sun Apr 13, 2014, 11:55 AM
Apr 2014

the same!"

I suppose Repukes say that when they finally have been called on everything and have nothing left to BS everyone with.

 

HooptieWagon

(17,064 posts)
17. Why not get local Dem parties to set up Port-A-Potties?
Sun Apr 13, 2014, 01:21 PM
Apr 2014

Only in blue districts of course. Can also hand out bottled water and snacks.

avebury

(10,952 posts)
19. All the Democrats need to do is borrow
Sun Apr 13, 2014, 02:15 PM
Apr 2014

a few RVs with bathrooms and park them strategically close to the polling places. Problem creatively solved.

2naSalit

(86,536 posts)
20. Isn't that illegal?
Sun Apr 13, 2014, 02:36 PM
Apr 2014

I mean, they anticipate large numbers of people to gather for a public function and not provide facilities? Really?

If it were NASCAR race it would be different no doubt.

 

packman

(16,296 posts)
21. How about setting up Porta-Potties in GOP areas
Sun Apr 13, 2014, 02:38 PM
Apr 2014

handing out bottled water, set up running hoses (for inspiration), pictures of waterfalls and THEN LOCKING the Potties. Now that would be interesting and maybe make a point

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Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
23. Floridians are too lazy to reform their voting laws and every few years, they do some new
Sun Apr 13, 2014, 02:44 PM
Apr 2014

scam and the alleged Democrats there will affect anger then forget about it until the next election. It's not like that in other States.
I blame those who do nothing. Tell us how you have sought reform.

 

oneofthe99

(712 posts)
30. I have been googling this for a little while and from what I understand
Mon Apr 14, 2014, 01:03 AM
Apr 2014

the reason they are using is the bathrooms are not wheel chair assessable from the few articles I read.

The election committee had a letter written to them if bathrooms were available for the disabled in the polling places.

They said they were not , so in order to not be sued they are closing the restrooms to all people.

I don't know if that has any truth to it? I know a friend of mine that owns a small pizza house was made
to install a wheel chair ramp to get in his restaurant and had to borrow around $20,000 to modify his restroom
to accommodate someone in a wheel chair that filed a discrimination suit against his restaurant.

The city gave him 90 days to comply or they were closing him down. I thought it was a little nuts he didn't have the money for it.


I don't know what the election places are doing but if a small pizza house had to install a wheelchair assessable bathroom I'm pretty sure a city owned building where it's having elections can be made to install wheel chair assessable bathrooms.
They can't violate the American disabilities act

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