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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsUm ... The US has always been an oligarchy, folk
It's been two-steps-forward-one-step-back here from the very beginning
For many decades, states could limit the vote to property owners: that didn't change overnight. The Constitution didn't really promise citizenship rights to large numbers of people until the Civil War amendments passed. Until the early twentieth century, the hacks in the state legiaslatures elected US Senators, and women couldn't vote. Native Americans weren't considered citizens until 1924. If you were too poor to pay a "poll tax," the oligarchs could keep you from voting -- until the Constitution was amended in 1964. The Fifteenth Amendment was only there on paper for almost a hundred years before it was finally honored in the South, as a result of the civil rights struggle. During the Vietnam war and prior wars, people were drafted and sent to fight while they were still too young to vote
Not one of these changes would have occurred without organized movements for change
It's the same story for the eight hour day, or the forty hour week, or overtime pay; and the same for ending child labor; and the same for having any worker health and safety rules
Decide what change you want, and go stand shoulder-to-shoulder with other people to work for that change. Nobody's just going to hand us what we want. You have to organize for it
MannyGoldstein
(34,589 posts)1000words
(7,051 posts)treestar
(82,383 posts)ol·i·gar·chy [ol-i-gahr-kee] Show IPA
noun, plural ol·i·gar·chies.
1.
a form of government in which all power is vested in a few persons or in a dominant class or clique; government by the few.
2.
a state or organization so ruled.
3.
the persons or class so ruling.
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/oligarchy
Power is vested in the three branches of the federal government and of each state government, and the people who hold those laws are either voted for or chosen by people we voted for.
Flying Squirrel
(3,041 posts)That was so cute!
deutsey
(20,166 posts)Orangepeel
(13,933 posts)The people do have the power, if we would collectively use it at the ballot box.
But, some people like the oligarchy. Others are manipulated into supporting it. The rest of us can't agree on how best to work against it.
treestar
(82,383 posts)Do you vote? I guess you are forced to sit home by the "oligarchs?"
Some people just enjoy being victims. I don't get it, but I see it all the time.
HughBeaumont
(24,461 posts)Representatives NOT sullied by the Almighty Profit. Who ARE these rare characters?
treestar
(82,383 posts)Doesn't mean the voters have to react to it.
If we took some responsibility for our own minds, it would do wonders. We are pretending to be helpless victims of the media.
HughBeaumont
(24,461 posts)Yes, I know . . . the first time, the Failure Fuhrer had a LOT of help.
The fact remains that enough American voters thought a dry drunk idiot was the better choice to run this nation. Twice.
Oh, and they also elected, DESPITE said dry drunk idiot's 8-year whiskey-throttle ruining of this country, the Boehner Congress.
Whether or not you like it or believe it, the voting public DOES listen to the Almighty Profit.
treestar
(82,383 posts)If we just give up as you have apparently, then we will continue to have the effects you observe.
I'm not that cynical about fellow Americans however. They at least deserve a say - if they want this "oligarchy" in a majority, they will get it. If they want something else, they can have it.
struggle4progress
(118,280 posts)trying to keep our eyes on our stars and on the ground where our feet next must step
... America never was America to me,
And yet I swear this oath
America will be! ...
-- Langston Hughes
treestar
(82,383 posts)is excellent. The potential is there, and is has been partly realized. Money always talks, but it's not everything.
Cha
(297,154 posts)for change.. Thank you!
blkmusclmachine
(16,149 posts)struggle4progress
(118,280 posts)JI7
(89,247 posts)like to feel cool and popular by going to a website that is about supporting democrats and laughing and poking fun at those on the site who support democrats ?
Quantess
(27,630 posts)between your statement and the OP? I don't quite understand how your comment relates to the OP, and I am thinking it probably doesn't.
struggle4progress
(118,280 posts)lovemydog
(11,833 posts)It takes organizing. And working. And meeting good people and having fun doing it. Cynicism, apathy, failing to understand history and the struggles many have made before us - that get you nowhere, or even deeper in the hole. Thanks for this post.
deutsey
(20,166 posts)but there are those who are actively taking away from us what we've gained.
All the more reason to organize.
Chathamization
(1,638 posts)No matter what form, political control is always going to be in the hands of the people who spend their time fighting for it, and people who can convince others to follow them will wield more power. If you showed up to the OWS general assemblies (for example), you'd see the same thing.
treestar
(82,383 posts)Some people don't wait around to be convinced and then complain that others haven't done the work for them.
Octafish
(55,745 posts)Certainly, there were periods of time where the Wall Street barons had their way. Since Nov. 22, 1963, though, it's been all war, all the time. Thanks to Reaganomics, the biggest spoils in history are in the hands of the fewest and nastiest people.
struggle4progress
(118,280 posts)Rex
(65,616 posts)The Oligarchy coincides with the end of American Imperialism.
Now what America has NOT been, traditionally, is a Plutocracy. We find ourselves living in a plutocrats paradise! All thanks to three huge entities - the M$M, the GOP and Wall Street.
Laelth
(32,017 posts)I argued something similar here: http://laelth.blogspot.com/2011/01/turning-american-ship-of-state.html
-Laelth