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gollygee

(22,336 posts)
Tue Apr 15, 2014, 07:49 AM Apr 2014

Retired MLB player: "I was racially profiled in my own driveway."

I post this because I've often read here that people think the only real problem is classism. This shows how racism is also a huge problem, in addition to classism, and affects people of all classes. (Though I imagine the fact that anyone listened to him at all about the racial profiling is due to classism and his status as a celebrity. I mean this stuff happens All The Time and is so normal that it is unusual for it to get any response.)

http://www.theatlantic.com/national/archive/2014/04/i-was-racially-profiled-in-my-own-driveway/360615/

It was an otherwise ordinary snow day in Hartford, Connecticut, and I was laughing as I headed outside to shovel my driveway. I’d spent the morning scrambling around, trying to stay ahead of my three children’s rising housebound energy, and once my shovel hit the snow, I thought about how my wife had been urging me to buy a snowblower. I hadn’t felt an urgent need. Whenever it got ridiculously blizzard-like, I hired a snow removal service. And on many occasions, I came outside to find that our next door neighbor had already cleared my driveway for me.

Never mind that our neighbor was an empty-nester in his late 60s with a replaced hip, and I was a former professional ballplayer in his early 40s. I kept telling myself I had to permanently flip the script and clear his driveway. But not today. I had to focus on making sure we could get our car out for school the next morning. My wife was at a Black History Month event with our older two kids. The snow had finally stopped coming down and this was my mid-afternoon window of opportunity.

Just as I was good-naturedly turning all this over in my mind, my smile disappeared.
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Retired MLB player: "I was racially profiled in my own driveway." (Original Post) gollygee Apr 2014 OP
Thanks for posting the article. safeinOhio Apr 2014 #1
k/r marmar Apr 2014 #2
Posted to for later reading. 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2014 #3
Why was the police outside their jurisdiction? LiberalFighter Apr 2014 #4
I'm betting that on at least one other occasion he followed this man home malaise Apr 2014 #6
The article explains the officer was pursuing a lead on a potential suspect tclambert Apr 2014 #7
That was my first question also, PRETZEL Apr 2014 #8
The area where Glanville lives NewJeffCT Apr 2014 #21
Good point, PRETZEL Apr 2014 #23
you'er right NewJeffCT Apr 2014 #25
But that's the point Blue_Tires Apr 2014 #28
As is the case with any such article, don't read the comments: they're full of racist trash alcibiades_mystery Apr 2014 #5
yes, outstanding article NewJeffCT Apr 2014 #24
Nah, it's not about Obama's skin color when it comes to how he's treated. The well known MLB uponit7771 Apr 2014 #9
Calling the President a POS used car salesman had nothing to do with msanthrope Apr 2014 #12
What's disconcerting is the number of liberals who don't believe the pervasiveness of this uponit7771 Apr 2014 #19
If they believed they would have to examine their own conduct. msanthrope Apr 2014 #29
who would have figured heaven05 Apr 2014 #10
I don't think it's *more* racism. Brigid Apr 2014 #16
well yeah heaven05 Apr 2014 #17
Every adult Black male I know... nyabingi Apr 2014 #11
+1000 heaven05 Apr 2014 #15
+1 uponit7771 Apr 2014 #20
excellent article LittleGirl Apr 2014 #13
...but, but, but I'm told by obtuse DUers on a daily basis that most Chakab Apr 2014 #14
they think that because the class situation is @ themselves-so it is worthy of consideration... bettyellen Apr 2014 #18
The entire article is well worth the read Marrah_G Apr 2014 #22
Might fun to file a safeinOhio Apr 2014 #26
Sadly, many DUers will see nothing wrong with that incident Blue_Tires Apr 2014 #27
Racism is classism Warpy Apr 2014 #30

LiberalFighter

(50,860 posts)
4. Why was the police outside their jurisdiction?
Tue Apr 15, 2014, 08:37 AM
Apr 2014

Hartford police should be upset that West Harford was in their jurisdiction. West Hartford citizens should be upset that he was not in their city doing his job.

malaise

(268,898 posts)
6. I'm betting that on at least one other occasion he followed this man home
Tue Apr 15, 2014, 09:09 AM
Apr 2014

Must have had a vehicle that was way to fancy for an African-American.

Sick of this shite!

tclambert

(11,085 posts)
7. The article explains the officer was pursuing a lead on a potential suspect
Tue Apr 15, 2014, 09:50 AM
Apr 2014

for the heinous crime of door-to-door solicitation. Apparently, they had run out of more serious crimes to investigate.

PRETZEL

(3,245 posts)
8. That was my first question also,
Tue Apr 15, 2014, 09:55 AM
Apr 2014

all this cop had to do was contact Hartford police for them to investigate. But, that would only have been the case is someone from the neighborhood had called.

No reason for this cop to be in this area.

NewJeffCT

(56,828 posts)
21. The area where Glanville lives
Tue Apr 15, 2014, 11:13 AM
Apr 2014

is basically right on the border of Hartford and West Hartford. I agree that the cop was 100% wrong to approach Glanville and question him as it was obvious profiling, but it could have been the cop was in West Hartford, continued down the street to turn around and entered Hartford while turning around. Then, the cop saw Glanville shoveling while black and questioned him.

The street where the Governor's mansion is located is a half-circle with one end in West Hartford, and the other in Hartford. So if you're in West Hartford on one end of the street, you'd need to continue down the street entering into Hartford and then turn back to re-enter West Hartford at the end of the street.



PRETZEL

(3,245 posts)
23. Good point,
Tue Apr 15, 2014, 11:19 AM
Apr 2014

but given that, wouldn't it make sense for the cops of both municipalities to have an idea of who lives in this neighborhood?

If it's an exclusive neighborhood, I would hope the cops have a pretty good idea who lives there.

NewJeffCT

(56,828 posts)
25. you'er right
Tue Apr 15, 2014, 11:23 AM
Apr 2014

if you're right around the corner from the Governor, the cops in both towns probably know that many of the residents there on both sides of the border are pretty wealthy. A former baseball player and ESPN analyst moving in should have been noticeable.

Blue_Tires

(55,445 posts)
28. But that's the point
Tue Apr 15, 2014, 12:17 PM
Apr 2014

even if he wasn't a former player and ESPN talking head, the cop still has no right to pull that bullshit "You ain't from around this neighborhood, are you?" shtick; which is the mindset that got Trayvon killed...

FWIW, incidents like this used to be much more commonplace...Even though things are a little better than they used to be in recent years, law enforcement in New England has had a disproportionate number of run-ins with black athletes who lived in certain neighborhoods or drove expensive cars...

 

alcibiades_mystery

(36,437 posts)
5. As is the case with any such article, don't read the comments: they're full of racist trash
Tue Apr 15, 2014, 08:42 AM
Apr 2014

The article, however, is excellent.

NewJeffCT

(56,828 posts)
24. yes, outstanding article
Tue Apr 15, 2014, 11:21 AM
Apr 2014

He even has hope for the young officer to one day be an advocate for unbiased police practices in the future. I hope he is right.

West Hartford is also pretty liberal for a wealthy suburb - they made news back in the late 80s or early 90s, I think, in charging abortion clinic protesters under the RICO laws - so, I would expect action on the part of West Hartford as well.

uponit7771

(90,335 posts)
9. Nah, it's not about Obama's skin color when it comes to how he's treated. The well known MLB
Tue Apr 15, 2014, 09:59 AM
Apr 2014

... player just had an "incident" with the cop... no way shows the "incidences" with racist ass'd GOP....

Not at all /sarcasm <--- cause that's needed in DU these days

 

msanthrope

(37,549 posts)
12. Calling the President a POS used car salesman had nothing to do with
Tue Apr 15, 2014, 10:41 AM
Apr 2014

his race. Nothing.

Just like the situation described in the article....nothing to do with race!!!! NOTHING!!!!!

Screaming "You lie!" at the SOTU.....nothing to do with race. Nothing!!!!!

 

heaven05

(18,124 posts)
10. who would have figured
Tue Apr 15, 2014, 10:29 AM
Apr 2014

more racism with a AA POTUS? I truly didn't, but not surprised at the upsurge of ignorance and stupidity shown by a 'sub group' of amerikkkan idiots.

 

heaven05

(18,124 posts)
17. well yeah
Tue Apr 15, 2014, 11:00 AM
Apr 2014

Last edited Tue Apr 15, 2014, 01:46 PM - Edit history (2)

I somewhat agree. A certain 'sub group' of amerikkkans who have always been there are feeling more justified and encouraged by the likes of Ryan, Cruz, Beck, Limbaugh, Fox news, Palin, Bachmann. They are venting their racist bile in the open and are goddamn proud in doing so. Yet I do stand by the opinion that because of the likes of ones mentioned previously, that the number of racists out of the closet and newly created are legion in this country. Not to say that decent folks aren't legion also, it's the only thing holding this fragile conglomeration(union) of states together. Wisconson GOPers are voting on succession from the union next month. What do you think race might have to do with that?

nyabingi

(1,145 posts)
11. Every adult Black male I know...
Tue Apr 15, 2014, 10:39 AM
Apr 2014

...(and I'm one of them) has a story about some humiliating encounter with law enforcement at some point in their life. And I can speak from firsthand experience that you never ever forget whatever the incident happened to be, from "what you are doing in this neighborhood?" inquiries to door latches being shut as soon as you're sited from the occupant of a parked car. You walk away feeling violated, angry, bitter and later wonder why your blood pressure is borderline too high.

In my humble opinion, a lot about this country's relationship to Black people is still very much what I call the "plantation code". The police heavily monitor the movement and actions of Black people, cruising the neighborhoods and reacting suspiciously to any gathering over two people and generally intending to intimidate with their presence rather than offering a sense of security and safety. Police actions towards Black males (even from Black police officers in some cases) often times end up as barely-veiled efforts at emasculation, particularly if a female is present (something, again, I've experienced personally).

 

Chakab

(1,727 posts)
14. ...but, but, but I'm told by obtuse DUers on a daily basis that most
Tue Apr 15, 2014, 10:46 AM
Apr 2014

Last edited Tue Apr 15, 2014, 05:13 PM - Edit history (1)

discrimination these days is simply down to social class and not race.


On this note, let's not forget the story of Robbie Tolan, son of former baseball player Bobby Tolan who was profiled and followed home by the police in Bellaire, Texas because he was driving an expensive vehicle and then shot in the chest in his driveway after reacting when an officer pushed his mother.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robbie_Tolan

 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
18. they think that because the class situation is @ themselves-so it is worthy of consideration...
Tue Apr 15, 2014, 11:04 AM
Apr 2014

you will find exactly the same people here say the same shit about women's treatment in society. Not a problem they care about- or even want to tolerate posts about. It's ignorant and disgusting.

safeinOhio

(32,668 posts)
26. Might fun to file a
Tue Apr 15, 2014, 12:02 PM
Apr 2014

FOIA on police calls for "man going door to door" for that day. If nothing, file a lawsuit.

Warpy

(111,237 posts)
30. Racism is classism
Tue Apr 15, 2014, 01:22 PM
Apr 2014

because anyone who isn't lily white is automatically put into the underclass and everybody "knows" what criminals the underclass produces.

It's infuriating to see it in action. I can't imagine having it happen on a daily basis simply because one has earned enough money to be able to live in a yuppie suburb.

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