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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsBullying: Is this the most ridiculous advice to deal with bullies, ever?
"Fifth-grade students at Zeman Elemantary in Lincoln, Nebraska were recently sent home with anti-bullying flyers. Imagine the parents' surprise, then, to find most of the supposed advice was actually not very helpful at all.
"The number one reason bullies hate their victims, is because the victims tell on them," advises the flyer. Really? So if you just tell kids to be quiet about it, it will go away? Sounds to me exactly like the line of reasoning generations of bullies and abusers have used as an excuse to keep doing what they're doing. It's the victim's fault, and if they just behaved better, it wouldn't happen.
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Abusive bullying in childhood is, for too many, a sad fact of life but it should not be a secret one. Adults should have their eyes open to spotting when it's going on, but some bullies are so crafty and careful that their victims can't always depend on the signs being spotted by others. Children surely need to be reassured that if they tell, they will be supported
not blamed for being a 'tattle tale.'
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On the Childline advice page about bullying, it mentions that 'going along with what they want will give [bullies] the message that bullying is working.' An alternative information sheet the school linked to on Facebook also reinforced the need for communication and seeking advice, advising young people to 'seek help if you or someone else are being bullied,' and 'let adults help.' Maybe next time, the school should consider letting adults help them with their flyers, too."
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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/women/womens-life/10772501/Bullying-Is-this-the-most-ridiculous-advice-to-deal-with-school-bullies.html
Arkana
(24,347 posts)Who wrote that, Bill Kristol?
rrneck
(17,671 posts)LuvNewcastle
(16,844 posts)have to deal with, and they want out of it. Administrators like that need to be out of a job.
LuvNewcastle
(16,844 posts)They should tell their kids that if they're being bullied, they should never keep it a secret. Telling adults is the best way to make it stop.
Jefferson23
(30,099 posts)not make it true ( Refuse to get mad ) because if you get mad and out act..you'll be in trouble too...big fail.
This is a train wreck, there are no clear points about validating the victims situation and most important, NOTIFY
a staff member...WE are here to help you etc.
JimDandy
(7,318 posts)It blames the victim, doesn't hold the bully accountable for his/her actions, and reads like the rules were tailored to help reduce problems for the school administration-not for the victim.
NightWatcher
(39,343 posts)Dont Be A Snitch. Snitches get stiches
Worst advice ever
LittleBlue
(10,362 posts)Cower and realize it's your own fault. Show you're hurt. Maybe you need sensitivity training.
Orrex
(63,203 posts)DirkGently
(12,151 posts)Don't tell and don't be a "sore loser?" Yikes. Sounds like it was written by the Bullies Union (tm).
DrDan
(20,411 posts)give in and grant them what they want
pintobean
(18,101 posts)It looks like a screw up. The Telegraph and Fox appear to be the only ones carrying this story, so there may be some agenda going on.
Today our educators will meet with all Zeman fifth graders to clarify and provide accurate information about the expectations we have of students at Lincoln Public Schools and at Zeman regarding bullying situations. To be clear, the brochure was not written by people at LPS, and was not vetted properly.
A few examples of the information students will be hearing today: Bullying is wrong and unsafe, and that adults need to know if bullying is occurring. Remember to talk it out not fight it out. Take action when you see others being bullied. Contact a school staff member for assistance when faced with a bullying situation.
http://wp.lps.org/zeman/
arcane1
(38,613 posts)MannyGoldstein
(34,589 posts)Just nuts.
Gormy Cuss
(30,884 posts)I stopped bullies the way my older brother taught me: stand up to them, show no fear, and the cowardly bullies move on. If they don't back off, TELL teachers, parents, older siblings about it.
RedCappedBandit
(5,514 posts)WTF
LisaL
(44,973 posts)Who came up with this?
TwilightGardener
(46,416 posts)"Curl up in fetal position and admit you are powerless. In fact, maybe it's YOU that's the problem--learn to laugh at yourself, you pathetic little shit."
LisaL
(44,973 posts)Who wrote this thing? Doesn't the school check what kind of advice they are giving out to children?
This pamphlet suggests bullied children shouldn't defend themselves (even verbally), treat bullies as someone who is trying to help, and not tell adults.
It's unbelievably ridiculous.
SheilaT
(23,156 posts)If you get cut and are bleeding, please do not bleed on school property. Wipe up all the blood yourself and dispose of whatever tissues you use discreetly.
Honestly, if I were a parent who got that little booklet I'd be in the principal's office the very next day.
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)And either kills himself or herself, or worst, takes on the school...well, it was the kid's fault anyway for being a weakling. See how that works?
GeorgeGist
(25,319 posts)Brickbat
(19,339 posts)(snip)
Zeman Principal Donna Williams sent an electronic message to families apologizing for the flier, and the district posted the apology on its Facebook page.
Among other things, the flier advises not telling on bullies because the number one reason bullies hate their victims is because the victims tell on them. The flier goes on to say, Telling makes the bully want to retaliate. Tell an adult only when a real injury or crime (theft of something valuable) has occurred. Would we keep our friends if we tattled on them?
LPS Communications Director Mary Kay Roth said the flier was not approved to be sent home and was inadvertently included in fifth-graders Tuesday folders that went home to parents. Such folders typically contain student work and other information for parents.
http://journalstar.com/news/local/education/lps-apologizes-for-flier-advising-students-to-not-tell-on/article_ee105464-f51d-539e-8bf0-4ab4719d874b.html
polly7
(20,582 posts)let alone print it out, no matter if it was intended to be sent home or not. I was sure it had to be some sort of hoax.
Brickbat
(19,339 posts)very different than the wretched flier, and it seems like they really do give the right message in class. Here's hoping they haven't undone all their good work with that garbage.
polly7
(20,582 posts)LibertyLover
(4,788 posts)I had to doublecheck to make sure it wasn't from The Onion, the "advice" was so over-the-top bad. Whoever authored it should be ashamed of themselves and whoever directed it be handed out at the elementary school should be disciplined. "If you think I look like a nerd, you should see my dad!"? Are they f'ing kidding? Not only are the bullied children being told to laugh at themselves - such a wonderful idea in and of itself - but they are also being instructed to disrespect their parents. And don't get me started on the whole idea of casting bullies as "friends who want to help you". Ugh.
Brickbat
(19,339 posts)Brickbat
(19,339 posts)Unfortunately, bus drivers are no longer allowed to stop the bus. It is against rules created by their unions so that they dont work any longer than they have to. Thus, the single most powerful tool they have to control kids on their bus has been taken away from them and their hands are tied from being able to take immediate and effective action.
Brickbat
(19,339 posts)freeplessinseattle
(3,508 posts)The victim blaming and minimizing that fills the "advice" book sounds like Cheney himself wrote it! Thanks for digging that up, interesting.
One more link (with the "rules" :
http://bullies2buddies.com/press-room/press-release/how-to-create-a-bully-free-school-environment-by-israel-izzy-kalman/
I see some right wing comments on various news sites blaming liberal ideology for this. I'm guessing they didn't do much research on the author.
pnwmom
(108,977 posts)Ron Green
(9,822 posts)as part of a strong and healthy character. But for school admins to just throw this out there without intensive training of all concerned is not helpful at all.
LeftishBrit
(41,205 posts)Don't sneak; don't show (or preferably even feel) your emotions; toughen yourself up and learn to laugh at yourself, and you too may end up ruling the Empire!
MisterP
(23,730 posts)GREAT way to handle both the opportunists and the people who need to feel big!