Police: Man ate pot candy before shooting his wife

[Jesus Malverde]

Authorities say a Denver man accused of killing his wife while she was on the phone with a 911 dispatcher ate marijuana-infused candy before the attack.

Search warrants released Thursday said 44-year-old Kristine Kirk told dispatchers her husband bought and ate the candy before he started hallucinating and frightening the couple's three children.

Police say 47-year-old Richard Kirk also may have taken prescription pain medication before he began acting erratically.

It was not clear whether the pot influenced his behavior.

http://news.yahoo.com/police-man-ate-pot-candy-shooting-wife-214528099.html

[Democracyinkind]

1. "We're happy to deflect from our failure to respond by providing you with a free dose of...

...reefer madness".

[FiveGoodMen]

2. "It was not clear whether the pot influenced his behavior"

Pot does not make people violent.

[Warpy]

3. No, it just made him a danger to the rest of the bag of candy

Cops didn't say what he washed it down with. My guess is that it contained alcohol.

[FiveGoodMen]

4. I'll give you that!

[ForgoTheConsequence]

13. FYI, someone was offended by your post for some reason.

On Fri Apr 18, 2014, 12:47 AM an alert was sent on the following post:

No, it just made him a danger to the rest of the bag of candy
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=4836877

REASON FOR ALERT

This post is disruptive, hurtful, rude, insensitive, over-the-top, or otherwise inappropriate.

ALERTER'S COMMENTS

A woman was murdered, and someone decides to make a joke of it?

Sick, disruptive, highly insensitive, and very inappropriate.

You served on a randomly-selected Jury of DU members which reviewed this post. The review was completed at Fri Apr 18, 2014, 12:56 AM, and the Jury voted 1-6 to LEAVE IT.

Juror #1 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: What the hell is offensive about this? The reporter needs to stop wasting people's time.
Juror #2 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: I don't see it quite that way. Leave
Juror #3 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #4 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: I dunno. I guess it could be kinda insensitive, unintentionally so, but hardly worth a hide. I've seen "white privilege" rants, Obama bashing, and climate doomsaying stuff that'd be more deserving of a potential hide than this.
Juror #5 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
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Juror #7 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: I don't see anything alert worthy in that post.

Thank you very much for participating in our Jury system, and we hope you will be able to participate again in the future.

[Warpy]

19. Oh, FFS!!! Thanks

Nothing should have been said at all until his toxicology screen was in but the cops just had to say something about REEFER MADNESS. I'm sorry there are two people at DU who didn't quite get what the OP was really about, that the newsworthy part of another woman getting murdered by a domestic partner was THE DEMON DRUG.

Otherwise, it was just another garden variety murder like so many others in happy homes every single day.

Thanks again. I'm delighted six people got the point.

[2pooped2pop]

69. some people here are really too sensitive to be roaming on the internets

I DU a lot of juries and most of the time I just think how lame the complainer is. Like maybe they are too fragile to be on any kind of discussion board except the puppies and kitties sites.

[Warpy]

76. Right, the stuff I alert on is usually egregious

and I got a lot of 6-0 to hide votes before MIRT swooped in.

I really don't alert on much stuff. I'd rather cringe than suffer heavy censorship. I'd also prefer knowing I'm being an ass when I'm being an ass.

At least they let us cuss here.

[2pooped2pop]

79. I was referring to someone alerting on your candy post n/t

[LadyHawkAZ]

14. I have to agree

That, or he had a weird reaction to whatever the prescription was, or possibly all of the above.

[Warpy]

20. Right, it was likely a chemical stew

The only person I've ever seen violent on pot later found out the stuff was laced with PCP.

There are a lot of bad drugs out there. Pot isn't one of them unless you're trying to lose weight.

[tazkcmo]

62. I've been violent on pot when I was a teen.

When it turned out to be really crappy and I decked the kid that sold it to me. He hit me back and that was that so I assume he was "high on the pots" too.

[HockeyMom]

65. Laced with something else?

Back in the days, they would cut it with some very, very bad stuff. Possibly that is what you reacted to?

[tazkcmo]

68. I reacted

to the anger of being ripped off. If there was pot in that baggy it was ditch weed or leaves. We both learned good lessons that day!

[Warpy]

78. The only person I knew who got violent on pot

later found out it had been laced with PCP. I doubt that was the case here, but a serum tox. screen would pick it up if it had been.

I was out of my teens when the best part of the 60s hit. I never decked anybody but no one was tacky enough to sell me oregano, either.

[madinmaryland]

5. Blame the POT and NOT the HEAVY DUTY NARCOTICS.

[Taitertots]

6. But the doctors said that oxycontin, fentanyl, and xanax were totally safe...

[Ghost in the Machine]

39. In the next town over from me, they found 3 people dead from fentanyl OD the other day, 1 in 1

home, 2 at another home where 1 of the guys was laying dead in the driveway, the other in the house. They had all been CHEWING on the damned patches! Those patches are supposed to be time released and has enough opiates to last for 2 DAYS!! I only know that because I'm in pain management and my insurance will only pay for 15 patches every 30 days. I read up on it, and it says the dosage could be fatal, even if used properly, to people who haven't been on high doses of opiods for a long period of time. There is no way in the world that I would ever touch that stuff and would refuse it if my pain management doctor ever prescribed it.

Inside the house where they found the 2 dead, there were 2 other prescription bottles, one for oxycodone & one for xanax. Both were empty...after just having been filled 4 days earlier..

I wish Tennessee would hurry the hell up and pass either full legalization, or at least medical use, of cannabis. I know several people who started doing pills or meth after they got busted for pot. Gotta be clean for probation piss test. One joint can stay in your system for 30 days, most opioids, cocaine and meth is gone within 24 to 72 hours. Pot isn't a gateway drug to harder drugs... it's the legal system (probation & urine screens) after being arrested for pot that opens the gateway. People still want to get high so they find another way... and those ways are much more dangerous, as well as addictive, where pot isn't addictive.

Peace,

Ghost

[2pooped2pop]

70. they smoke those things too, I think. n/t

[Ghost in the Machine]

82. I'm not too sure about that... all I've ever seen is the patches, injection ready liquid & lolipops

I reckon if there's a will, there's a way, though. Hell, I've seen someone put a roxicodone 30mg pill on a piece of foil, heat it underneath with a lighter and suck the smoke through a straw, just like some people do meth. I have no desire to try it, and have stated many times that I don't even know how people get "high" on pain killers, as all they do to me is make me stop hurting. I knew one girl who would snort an oxycodone, or hydrocodone, and get up and clean the whole house! She said it gave her energy. I guess it affects you differently if you're not in pain??

I just take my meds as directed. I'm on some very powerful opioids, and I sure as hell don't want to be another statistic in the "Prescription Drug Overdose" or "Accidental Overdose" column in the Medical Examiners files.

I've got a one way ticket on this rollercoaster ride through life. I've had my share of 'white knuckle moments' and loopty-loops, but I plan on riding it all the way to the end. I have no plans of jumpimg off early. After everything I've been through, I want to hang around and see what happens next!

Peace,

Ghost

[2pooped2pop]

84. nope, seriously, I mean the patches!

I have been told that they will smoke those.

[Ghost in the Machine]

111. I wouldn't put it past them, and pretty much agreed with you in the first sentence of my reply...

"I reckon if there's a will, there's a way, though."

I wouldn't put anything past anyone who was trying to get high. When I was in my early 20's, I had a neighbor who would spray some Lysol into a big cup of water and drink that!! He wasn't around long, though. He lived with his elderly mother and he went nuts one night. I heard him yelling all kinds of crazy things and heard stuff breaking. I told my girlfriend to call 911 and I took off over there to check on the welfare of his mother. He had thrown her around some, so I tackled him and held him til the cops came. They took him away in cuffs and he was never seen around there again.

Some idiots will do just about anything to get high, even if it kills them.

Peace,

Ghost

[catbyte]

85. You don't get high because the meds are doing what they're supposed to do.

The pain seems to suck the high right out of the meds. I have been on heavy duty pain meds for almost 15 years, including fentanyl lollipops and haven't felt stoned either, even when I first started them. Jackasses like those patch chewers & pill smokers make it more difficult for legitimate pain patients like us to get the treatment we need. Luckily I have a great pain doctor & a clearly documented diagnosis. I don't think I would still be around if not for the meds. Life just isn't worth living if it's spent at home on the couch curled into a fetal position, sobbing. With them, I work 8-5 5 days a week & I do a good job.

Hang in there!

[Ghost in the Machine]

109. "Jackasses like those patch chewers & pill smokers make it more difficult for legitimate pain.....

...patients like us to get the treatment we need."

I agree with that 110%! I also have a great doctor, and documented diagnosis. I'm on disability and my neurosurgeon said I'll never work again. I'm on 2 pound lifting restrictions for the rest of my life (though I do exceed my lifting limits a lot). I have tethered cord syndrome at the C-4 level, where my spinal cord has attached itself to my vertebra, and if it rips loose it'll drop me where I stand..paralyzed from the neck down, which also means my respiratory system will shut down and I'll stop breathing on my own.

I'm glad you're doing better and you're able to work now. Quality of life is everything! I remember the days of being in that fetal position... and hurting so bad that all I could think of was that death would be such a sweet relief from the pain, but I was never suicidal and could never even *think* of killing myself. The ONLY time I EVER had those thoughts were when they had me on anti-depressants... and I got off of those quickly!

Peace,

Ghost

[catbyte]

112. OMG, Ghost! That sounds excruciating and very dangerous.

I've only had 5 bouts of shingles on my right sciatic nerve with the attending post-herpetic neuralgia. Doctors can't figure it out. My imune system is normal, but I still get multiple outbreaks. I'm part of a very different 1%, sigh. I'm on a daily antiviral to tamp it down, but I still had a massive outbreak over Thanksgiving. I was off work for 2 weeks because my skin hurt too much. Aren't we lucky?

Take care, friend.

[Ghost in the Machine]

115. Thank you, catbyte. I've had two major neck surgeries because of my condition. Multi-level

lamenectomies with exspansile duraplasty. They took my vertebrae out from C-5 to T-3 and shaved the insides of them to make them larger because my spinal cord was so swollen it pressing against the vertebra, causing the tethered cord syndrome. My Neurosurgeon left the one at C-4 because he said that is where the biggest chance of becoming paralyzed is, and I was still able to walk so didn't want to risk touching it.

When he saw my first MRI he was in total disbelief and said that, due to the extent of my injuries, he didn't understand HOW or WHY I was still walking, that I *should* have been a quadriplegic. I've also beat another odd... the average lifespan of someone with my condition is 45 years old. I just turned 51. September will be 10 years since my first surgery, and I see my Neuro at least once a year for follow-up MRI's and to check the progression. Every time I walk in, he smiles from ear to ear and is almost in tears telling me he can't believe I'm still walking... and living! I signed papers for him to film my surgery, and he uses it to teach others. He is private practice, but works at a teaching hospital (University of Tennessee Medical Center, Knoxville Campus).

I have 'trauma induced'/'acquired' syringomyelia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Syringomyelia

I feel for you, too. My mom had a few bouts with shingles a couple of years ago, and it was AWFUL! Hers affected her neck, face and head. We had taken her out to eat for her 70th birthday, and had an attack during the meal. It was so bad that all she could do was to hold her head and cry. We were parked on the side of the building, which happened to be near a locked fire exit, and was right where we were sitting too. Management was nice enough to unlock the door and let us carry her out that way instead of having to carry her all the way through the restaurant and half way around the building. I wouldn't wish that pain on anyone.

You take care too, and best wishes for pain-free days for you.....

Peace,

Ghost

[JimDandy]

9. There was no mention of prescription drugs in the initial news reports

The conservative media outlets here always give a negative slant to all their stories on pot. This was so glaring though, that everyone I knew who heard the original reports thought he had to have taken some other substance besides the pot to cause this reaction. And sure enough....

[sakabatou]

51. Isn't that what they always try to do?

Pot before whatever may be the actual cause?

[otohara]

104. I Blame The Gun

which was there before he consumed drugs

[oneofthe99]

7. Not to make lite of a woman and mother being shot and killed but this article is just stupid

[JEFF9K]

8. Pot-loving Undergrounders will reject all evidence ...

... reminds you of conservatives!

[spanone]

12. what evidence?

[frylock]

15. what's your experience been with cannabis?

have you ever acted out violently like this after ingesting or smoking cannabis?

[JEFF9K]

23. My experience with pot is 2 brothers who died ...

... one on Sunday.

[frylock]

26. i'm sorry to hear that. how was cannabis involved in your brother's deaths?

[JEFF9K]

44. Both brothers started pot smoking at a young age ...

... leading to lives on psychiatric medications and early death.

[frylock]

48. your brothers suffered from schizophrenia long before smoking weed..

smoking weed may have exacerbated the onset of their mental condition, but smoking in and of itself does not cause mental illness.

[JEFF9K]

50. No offense, but I was there, you weren't. I saw them every day, before, during, and after ...

... the onset of pot smoking. There was no family history of schizophrenia until they started smoking pot.

[raccoon]

55. THere might have been and it was never diagnosed. Or it just wasn't talked about. nt

[theaocp]

56. Prohibition made the use of cannabis less safe.

Everything about this situation can be laid at the feet of prohibition. No questions, just obey. Less education about what happens leads to this eventually. Sorry for your loss, but it's not because of cannabis. It's about how we treat it.

[ForgoTheConsequence]

57. No offense, but you're not a doctor.

You can't throw around insults like "pot loving" and accuse people of rejecting evidence while you're rejecting science yourself.



http://psychcentral.com/news/2013/12/10/harvard-marijuana-doesnt-cause-schizophrenia/63148.html



Unless you have medical credentials that you're not disclosing, you don't have the ability to diagnose or speculate on the cause of mental illness.

[JEFF9K]

89. How in the eff is the term "pot-loving" an insult?

[frylock]

58. no offense, but i've been using for 30+ years..

along with just about all of my friends. we are all very successful, productive members of society. none of us have experienced any psychotic episodes, killed ourselves, or anyone else, nor are we using any psychiatric medications. you, like many others, are in denial that mental illness runs in your family. there is ZERO evidence, none, that will back your claim that using cannabis CAUSES mental illness.

[Maedhros]

63. "Correlation does not imply causation."

I wish we could better impart this wisdom to people.

[JEFF9K]

91. Wrong. Correlation does not PROVE causation. "WISDOM?"

[ForgoTheConsequence]

99. I just peeled a banana and then sat down at my desk.

The banana must have caused me to log into Democratic Underground.

[2pooped2pop]

75. but not because of the usual age of onset of schizophrenia

is probably about the same time?

[2pooped2pop]

73. non drinkers eh?

pot was the gateway was it? lol

Not much proof in this case.

[theaocp]

40. So, what happened? n/t

[JEFF9K]

45. see answer #44

[Ghost in the Machine]

42. I'm sorry for your loss, condolences to you and your family, but I would like to know how pot was

to blame for the deaths, too. I'm sure you're grieving right now, so when you feel up to answering will be fine.

Peace,

Ghost

[wercal]

59. Terrible

Sorry for your loss.

[2pooped2pop]

72. from Pot? They died from pot?

LIE

[Logical]

88. Dies of POT? How? nt

[LadyHawkAZ]

16. I am not a pot lover

and I even hallucinate on small doses (which is why I am not a pot lover), and I'm still going to bet that this was not brought on by the pot.

I AM going to note that there's suddenly an unprecedented spate of Reefer Madness scary-pot stories flooding into the media right as two states are having a successful go at legalization, which IS a conservative tactic.

[frylock]

17. it's being put out there in hopes of influencing how people will vote on these bills in other states

[JEFF9K]

21. A "successful go" at legalization?????????????? ...

... TOO SOON!

[arcane1]

27. Technically it's "re-legalization". It was legal from the Big Bang up until the 1930's.

If it's good enough for George Washington it's good enough for me

[LadyHawkAZ]

83. Ok...

At what point will you be willing to call it "successful", so we can resume this discussion on that date? So far there's been less problems than you have with alcohol on a typical Saturday night.

[ohnoyoudidnt]

18. I do not love pot, but I am pretty fond of facts.

I'm looking forward to seeing the results of his blood test. This is the first time I've heard about anyone hallucinating so much from marijuana that they killed someone.

[JEFF9K]

22. SOME THINGS I'VE NOTICED ABOUT DEMOCRATIC UNDERGROUND ...

* You get flack for saying anything bad about drugs.

* You get hidden for making a reference to the existence of overweight people.

* You get threatened with expulsion for making factual comments that might disturb some irrational feminists.

[frylock]

29. you get flak for making unsubstantiated claims about drugs

[JEFF9K]

46. You should have seen the flack I got ...

... for suggesting that JJ Cale's song "Cocaine" promoted cocaine!

[frylock]

66. and Rock n Roll All Night promotes partying every day

[CBGLuthier]

67. Oh, were you that person.

Yeah I remember because your viewpoint was ill-informed and stupid and contrary to any reasonable opinion from anyone who ever listened to the song.

[JEFF9K]

90. No reasonable person would suggest that ...

The song "Cocaine" didn't promote the use of cocaine, despite any denials from Eric Clapton or JJ Cale. But thanks for proving my point.

[Logical]

87. I am starting to think you might not stay here long. nt

[JEFF9K]

92. You don't think well.

[Logical]

97. The GOP would like your support on locking up pot users. Congrats. nt

[TheSarcastinator]

108. gasp! someone on DU gets flak for being clueless?

Shocking.

[Erich Bloodaxe BSN]

30. Maybe you need to re-examine whether or not

you want to hang around a place that you seem to feel is populated by people with whom you seem to disagree so often, if you're unwilling to do a little introspection and consider whether maybe the problems are yours, rather than everyone around you...

[JEFF9K]

47. Bad comment! ...

... I mentioned 3 problems with Democratic Underground. That's THREE! Not so many. Do the math!

[JEFF9K]

93. "LOVE IT OR LEAVE IT," HUH?

It doesn't get much more CONSERVATIVE than that!

[Erich Bloodaxe BSN]

100. If that's what I'd said.

What I actually said was maybe you need to first do some introspection, and wonder if maybe the problems you have are problems YOU have, and that you need to work on changing in yourself. If you did that, you might be happier here.

[Drew Richards]

116. Umm all your comments seem very familure are you perhaps a sock puppet of a recently banned duer?

Oh yeah and to your comments on your family I am sorry for your loss but I am sure you are either in denial or not bothering to take into account other factors such as lsd mushrooms pcp and spice or any number of other dangerous drugs...a pschotic break can occur from just one use of these drugs whether they smoked pot before or continued to smoke it anyother time after the psychotic break...

Hell we had three guys back in HS that thought they would try smoking Jimson weed...one died the other two had psychotic breaks and were never the same...but they continued to smoke pot...

Really...this reefer madness crap is a joke.

[KansDem]

31. Yeah, but there are great 'toons!

And cute pics of kitties and puppies!

[Inkfreak]

35. I find them even more enjoyable...

when I'm stoned.

[Jesus Malverde]

41. DUZY...

[BlancheSplanchnik]

36. dude....

Boo hooing because...."factual comments that might disturb some irrational feminists"?

Really? You had to insult a group of people dedicated to illuminating sexism? You know there are men here who understand and respect what those "irrational" feminists are saying, right?.....we're not some bunch of unimportant hairy-legged ladies you can gratuitously bash on.

[JEFF9K]

49. Here's what happened: ...

A thread claimed something to the effect that every single woman on earth was miserable and lived in constant fear because one country in Africa has rape laws that weren't as strong as possible.

I was threatened with expulsion for questioning the logic.

[BlancheSplanchnik]

53. link please.

Rather than your synopsis.

[JEFF9K]

95. My comment was removed ...

... and I was banned from commenting on Women's Issues.

[BlancheSplanchnik]

98. well then, .... you know, in Buddhism, the important thing

Is to take responsibility for ourselves. Look at everything as truthfully as you can, in terms of yourself and your own actions.

We ask ourselves, what do we ourselves need to change in ourself for our own growth; what was our own contribution to some situation we're not happy with.. Cause and effect, you know?

It's a practice to learn that blaming others doesn't improve your own Self in any way.

It's worthwhile, not just for Buddhists, but for anyone.

[CBGLuthier]

64. you will also get flack if all you do is point out the flaws of DU

and considering your idiocy about cannabis and your disrespectful comments towards women I imagine you spend a lot of time here eating shit.

Bon Appetit!

[2pooped2pop]

74. oooh, now you've gone and done it

the popcorn crowd is on the way right now!

[notadmblnd]

103. There does not seem to be much here at this DEMOCRATIC site that you support

lets see, you have a huge problem with Marijuana, you have issues with people who may struggle with weight, and you seem to have a problem with the ladies who are vocal about their perceived oppression.

Tell us what else bothers you about DU?

Are you certain that you come here to share your thoughts and views with like minded people?

I know another site where you may feel more comfortable. PM me and I'll give you the link.

[LanternWaste]

33. Meanwhile, the under-educated undergrounders will accept any logical fallacy to make a point

Meanwhile, the under-educated and sub-literate undergrounders will accept any logical fallacy to make a point that they themselves alone believe to be clever, and pretend that evidence is synonymous with here-say...

Reminds me of... the under-educated!

[Inkfreak]

34. What evidence?

Or is your anti-pot bias a knee jerk reaction? Just like conservatives.

[2pooped2pop]

71. lol

yes. They are just not listening about the millions, no, I mean thousands, umm hundreds,..that's not quite right either, dozens....no, not dozens either. Well, I'm sure some guy some place had a reaction to pot sometime in the last couple hundred years. ANd they refuse to listen!

[Logical]

86. LOL, you have some evidence? nt

[otohara]

105. Guns Are Deadly

pot not so much

[tenderfoot]

114. You're the conservative...

and prig on top of it.

[MisterP]

10. maybe it's a little like the history of absinthe

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jean_Lanfray

[Jesus Malverde]

28. Great read..thanks

I'd known about absinth being controversial but never knew the details.

The focus on one drug among many and ignoring likely underlying mental illness is a common theme when searching to blame a substance.

Time and time again we hear about the drugs being the cause of death, but often it is alcohol that is the catalyst for misadventure.

[TheSarcastinator]

107. some similarites and some differences!

Absinthe began to have serious negative cultural and health effects because of two things: 1) the generally toxic nature of alcohol and its use in very high levels in absinthe and 2) the common use of really nasty, unregulated and inferior industrial spirits as a base after phylloxera destroyed the French grape harvest in the 1880s. These two factors came together and helped fuel a rise in alcoholism and violence that horrified people and helped lead to absinthe's prohibition. Absinthe really did drive people mad and melt their brains, it just was the cheap industrial alcohol base that was the cause and not the wormwood.

Absinthe prohibitionists were not entirely unjustified in their claims, they just got the cause wrong. Cannabis prohibitionists, on the other hand, are liars, morons and fear mongers and should all be loaded into a giant slingshot and fired directly into the heart of the sun, never to stain our nation and history again with their mendacity and deception.

[spanone]

11. maybe he ate a snickers bar too?

[RandoLoodie]

24. the reefers make white women listen to teh jazz music too!!!!!!111111

heavens to Betsy!

[Strelnikov_]

25. Thank god most states have the sense not to legalize this dangerous drug

Praise the lord that alcohol remains the officially sponsored social drug of the good ole U S of A.

Hell, I mean, no one has ever heard bout someone gettin their load on and shootin their old lady.

Right here in Hooterville, last week, at the Ioway State College of Cow Punchin an Pig Castration, they had to cancel the annual Veisha week cause a crowd of a thousand students pushed over a couple a cars and light poles one night.

It was reported there was a sighting of . . . gasp . . . Maryjuwana in the crowd.

[2pooped2pop]

80. if there was maryjuwana in the crowd

I think they thought those cars were marshmallow peeps. munch munch

thanks for the hilarious post.

[Faux pas]

32. Was that after he drank

a fifth of something? I call BS.

[goldent]

37. Not clear from the evidence that pot was an influence

I think it will take decades before we can accurately say what the impact of legalization is.

[DefenseLawyer]

38. Hey, where the white women at?

[SolutionisSolidarity]

43. Reefer Madness Part Two.

There's been a lot of these stories lately. Somebody is trying to do their best to halt the legalization movement.

[rock]

52. Did he also have a gun?

Jus' asking.

[Phlem]

54. And the wheels go round and round.

Pot will always be blamed for any and all issues until pot becomes illegal again. Period.

-p

[Hosnon]

60. He also probably used the restroom.

I fail to see how either is that relevant to the crime.

[Yavin4]

61. So, in places where pot is illegal, this kind of thing does not happen

Got it.

[berni_mccoy]

77. FACT: Man probably would have shot his wife with just the Rx pain meds

But I can see why the cops want to blame Pot.

[2pooped2pop]

81. gotta keep it illegal to keep the prisons full

the hard shit is undetectable in your blood after a few days while the pot metabolites stay in there for quite a while longer.

[davekriss]

94. This is serious!

I heard he ate spaghetti too! We should seriously think about putting spaghetti in the same category as Schedule III drugs. Although it's not clear if the behavior was due to the pasta or the tomato sauce...

[ohnoyoudidnt]

96. What make you so sure that you can rule out the cheese?

Who has spaghetti without Parmesan cheese?

[Autumn]

101. I ate pot cheesecake last night. I went crazy, ate the whole thing.

Checked on my husband this morning, yep, he's still alive.

[LWolf]

102. Because pot causes aggression and hallucination.

I haven't had any since the 70s. It must be really different than I remember.

[pipoman]

106. Man ate really hot salsa before shooting his wife.

It is unclear if the salsa influenced his behavior.

[B Calm]

110. Pot has the opposite effect with me, I want to make love with her

not kill her!

[Mz Pip]

113. Mixing pot and narcotics can be dicey.

Years ago my son's girlfriend was taking pain killers for a broken arm. Then she smoked some pot and had a total freak out. She was always a very sweet, calm young woman, but that combination really set something off.

I always remembered that and will never mix the two.