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xchrom

(108,903 posts)
Fri Apr 18, 2014, 05:40 AM Apr 2014

Fox News 'Hero' Cliven Bundy Is a Pampered Millionaire, Not a Rugged Rancher

Last edited Fri Apr 18, 2014, 04:00 PM - Edit history (1)

http://www.alternet.org/fox-news-hero-cliven-bundy-pampered-millionaire-not-rugged-rancher



The latest right-wing media poster-victim, Cliven Bundy, is just the latest in a long line of desert dwellers who thinks he or she should not have to follow the law and has a god-given right to unlimited use of public resources, in this case, rangeland. I know the mentality well, because I grew up in rural Nevada and clung desperately to such beliefs until only a few years ago.

Bundy has not paid grazing fees in close to 20 years, while the federal government has, with painful, stupid moves, tried to somehow deal with him. Bundy also faced restrictions because he continued to graze cattle on a slice of public land reserved for the endangered desert tortoise. He was invited to talk to Sean Hannity (of course) about the “standoff.”

“We want freedom,” Bundy said. I don’t know what freedom Bundy’s talking about. He does not own the land nor does he even pay the modest fees required to use it. Thousands of ranchers across the West pay fees for their businesses, but Bundy thinks he should get to use public resources to make a personal profit. Cliven Bundy, far from being a patriot, is also clearly a straight-up communist.

Bundy is using the language of freedom, patriotism and outright paranoia to further his business interests. He succeeded wildly in drawing other “patriots” to his slice of contested desert. I don’t know these exact people, but the words and phrases they used were the nursery rhymes of my childhood. I’ve been listening to ignorant people bitch about the federal “gub’met,” since I could crawl, and I’m weary of it. I can’t bear to hear poor people rally to the defense of moneyed interests like mining and ranching, like well-trained, bleating sheep. As tired and silly as I find his language, clearly it worked. He so inflamed the lunatic militia movement, that many rallied to him, often from out of state, with guns and naked threats. They created a real possibility that someone might get killed, so the feds backed down.

***PINBOY3NINER THIS WAS YOUR FAULT!11 SOME HOW SOME WAY!
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Fox News 'Hero' Cliven Bundy Is a Pampered Millionaire, Not a Rugged Rancher (Original Post) xchrom Apr 2014 OP
Open the area that Bundy uses to any ranch who wants to graze for free. LakeVermilion Apr 2014 #1
Maybe NASA has some rocket engines they need to test Trekologer Apr 2014 #2
He's a terrorist. MohRokTah Apr 2014 #3
He is also a freeloading socialist and the darling of the republican party. B Calm Apr 2014 #4
He's no socialist hootinholler Apr 2014 #5
Okay then his cows are socialists.. B Calm Apr 2014 #18
It's even worse than you feared... pinboy3niner Apr 2014 #20
Cowmmunism! NuclearDem Apr 2014 #22
You herd it, too? pinboy3niner Apr 2014 #25
And here i was hoping to steer clear of cow puns. NuclearDem Apr 2014 #26
I don't want to rustle xchrom's thread any more than it already has been pinboy3niner Apr 2014 #29
Yeah, juries are getting a little tougher on that. NuclearDem Apr 2014 #30
No, it's clearly nobodyspecial Apr 2014 #33
I'm confused -- he dresses as an Easter bunny? eallen Apr 2014 #6
Just to be a party pooper, here's the bunny-expurgated link from Alternet: UTUSN Apr 2014 #17
The mass media framing this as a debate, not hate, is almost evil. Fred Sanders Apr 2014 #7
This is why I don't understand the BLM actions Takket Apr 2014 #8
What if a group of young black men in Compton decided to start gathering guns and... Shoulders of Giants Apr 2014 #9
prefect eample of Reagan's welfare queen in a cattleranch Johonny Apr 2014 #10
Drug tested and I also think we should TBF Apr 2014 #12
We probably should drug test xchrom, too, considering that link he posted pinboy3niner Apr 2014 #21
At least you actually clicked on the link - TBF Apr 2014 #27
I did underpants Apr 2014 #31
I'm amazed someone actually read it! TBF Apr 2014 #35
We could shoot the cows from a helicopter Johonny Apr 2014 #23
I knew this story was missing something - TBF Apr 2014 #28
Well, well, well ... nt TBF Apr 2014 #11
if he was a liberal democrat he would be at guantanamo and issa would be holding hearings spanone Apr 2014 #13
And he scares little children with his holiday costumes: LeftinOH Apr 2014 #14
Harvey!!!!! Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Apr 2014 #24
He must've grown tired of his look and decided he was due for a mange...um, I mean change pinboy3niner Apr 2014 #34
Your link proves it--if he wasn't rich, how could he afford all those costumes? pinboy3niner Apr 2014 #15
Divide and conquer Bombero1956 Apr 2014 #16
In other words... Wounded Bear Apr 2014 #19
You can pick him up, shake him up, clean him up, beam him up, Thinkingabout Apr 2014 #32
Nice edit, LOL! pinboy3niner Apr 2014 #36

LakeVermilion

(1,039 posts)
1. Open the area that Bundy uses to any ranch who wants to graze for free.
Fri Apr 18, 2014, 07:03 AM
Apr 2014

Maybe you can't get him to leave, but he doesn't own the land, so anyone should be able to graze animals in that area. Maybe even sheep.

The government can make it uncomfortable for him without confronting him.

Then the millionaire Bundy will make an uglier appearance.

 

MohRokTah

(15,429 posts)
3. He's a terrorist.
Fri Apr 18, 2014, 08:45 AM
Apr 2014

He lead a terrorist organization in a threatened attack against the United States, IMO.

That also brings up the issue of insurrection and potentially treason.

hootinholler

(26,449 posts)
5. He's no socialist
Fri Apr 18, 2014, 10:12 AM
Apr 2014

The rest is accurate, but calling it a socialist is insulting to real socialists.

 

B Calm

(28,762 posts)
18. Okay then his cows are socialists..
Fri Apr 18, 2014, 02:10 PM
Apr 2014

My god, I'm trying to make a damn point with the freepers who troll du!

pinboy3niner

(53,339 posts)
29. I don't want to rustle xchrom's thread any more than it already has been
Fri Apr 18, 2014, 02:39 PM
Apr 2014

If I'm not careful, a jury may give me a hide.

eallen

(2,953 posts)
6. I'm confused -- he dresses as an Easter bunny?
Fri Apr 18, 2014, 10:58 AM
Apr 2014

That link. I don't think it goes where you think it goes.


Takket

(21,552 posts)
8. This is why I don't understand the BLM actions
Fri Apr 18, 2014, 11:09 AM
Apr 2014

If bundy is a millionaire, what was with all this nonsense about seizing his cattle? Why have to pay the man hours for all those agents and fuel for the trucks? Why not just get a court order to seize his accounts? Take the 1 million he owes plus 1 million more to cover his grazing fees for the next 20 years and walk away without ever giving this nutbag or his militia friends a target to point a gun at!

9. What if a group of young black men in Compton decided to start gathering guns and...
Fri Apr 18, 2014, 11:16 AM
Apr 2014

pointed them at police, because they don't want to pay taxes or fees? Would they get Fox News support? What's the difference between that scenario and Mr. Bundy?

Johonny

(20,829 posts)
10. prefect eample of Reagan's welfare queen in a cattleranch
Fri Apr 18, 2014, 11:16 AM
Apr 2014

I believe in compassionate conservatism: just so long as he has each cow drug tested
regularly then I'm okay with him receiving this overly generous federal benefit.

TBF

(32,041 posts)
12. Drug tested and I also think we should
Fri Apr 18, 2014, 11:18 AM
Apr 2014

perform transvaginal ultrasounds on Cliven since he is involved in breeding. It's only fair.

Johonny

(20,829 posts)
23. We could shoot the cows from a helicopter
Fri Apr 18, 2014, 02:30 PM
Apr 2014

That is good enough for the wolves and Sarah Palin so it must be a correct compassionate conservative response.

TBF

(32,041 posts)
28. I knew this story was missing something -
Fri Apr 18, 2014, 02:38 PM
Apr 2014

maybe Sarah could serve as one of the human shields?

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LeftinOH

(5,353 posts)
14. And he scares little children with his holiday costumes:
Fri Apr 18, 2014, 11:28 AM
Apr 2014


....which is exactly what is shown in the article.

pinboy3niner

(53,339 posts)
15. Your link proves it--if he wasn't rich, how could he afford all those costumes?
Fri Apr 18, 2014, 12:15 PM
Apr 2014

Your best link ever, xchrom!

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
32. You can pick him up, shake him up, clean him up, beam him up,
Fri Apr 18, 2014, 03:12 PM
Apr 2014

Put Christmas lights on him and he will still be a Welfare Cowboy.

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