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Chemisse

(30,808 posts)
Sun Apr 20, 2014, 06:56 AM Apr 2014

Please go away, Boston Strong!

I get angry every time I hear someone reference Boston Strong. Since I am living in Mass and like to hear the news, this is happening daily. The local news outlets have it in banners, accompanied by dramatic music, and simply cannot say it often enough.


I hate 'Boston Strong' for so many reasons:

1. The phrase doesn't make any sense. Which one is the noun? Does it mean Boston is strong, or Boston is a type of strong? If it's the former, it sounds like a 2 year old who hasn't learned to include verbs in her sentences yet (ie it sounds stupid).

2. It's self-congratulatory in a sickening way. Do they really think that other communities would have reacted differently to the bombings? That only in Boston would they have pursued and captured the bombers? Perhaps others cities would have shuttered themselves and sobbed quietly?

3. It evokes a mindless emotion, a false solidarity based on a shared crisis or common enemy. This is the emotion that rears up during football games or drives patriotism in times of war. It is described by social psychology. A thoughtful society should not be driven by its animal emotions.

4. It has been shamelessly commercialized, as expressed by The Boston Globe, "In the weeks since the Boston Marathon bombings, the 'Boston Strong' slogan, once a spontaneous expression of defiance and civic pride, has evolved into something of a brand, applied to charitable ventures, available on T-shirts sold at drugstores, wielded on Twitter and at sporting events."

http://www.bostonmagazine.com/news/blog/2013/05/09/the-beginning-of-a-boston-strong-branding-backlash/

The only positive thing I can say about the zeal that brought us Boston Strong is that it has prompted news outlets to portray the victims as minor celebrities. It no longer startles me to see an amputee on the tv screen. And that is a very good thing. If only the same had been done for the many war veterans who lost limbs in the Middle East.

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Please go away, Boston Strong! (Original Post) Chemisse Apr 2014 OP
We live in a commercialized culture, madaboutharry Apr 2014 #1
I would go farther and say everything needs a brand. GreenEyedLefty Apr 2014 #22
I'm so sick of "branding." R. Daneel Olivaw Apr 2014 #96
Touche GreenEyedLefty Apr 2014 #97
It is Scairp Apr 2014 #72
You're not alone. I'm from MA and I'm with you on this. canoeist52 Apr 2014 #2
I don't understand the hate and concern over something so insignificant aikoaiko Apr 2014 #3
Call it a pet peeve. Chemisse Apr 2014 #5
if something is in your face all the time, it gets a little old magical thyme Apr 2014 #8
Pretty much. Blue_Adept Apr 2014 #11
+1 nt MADem Apr 2014 #43
I think it is disgust over trivializing, roody Apr 2014 #65
The chant we do in New York is more fitting BeyondGeography Apr 2014 #4
The reason I am not fond of it, is because it's seems a knock off of Livestrong. boston bean Apr 2014 #6
Or more directly, Vermont Strong - that started with Hurricane Irene (I think) karynnj Apr 2014 #31
Same here Blue_Adept Apr 2014 #7
What we had was the fetishization of first responders, particularly the Fire Department BeyondGeography Apr 2014 #10
Sure, in the end it simply celebrates the fact that some people did NOT get blown up. randome Apr 2014 #9
I'd say it's more than that. MH1 Apr 2014 #20
My thoughts exactly, plus all this gestering is a form of... drynberg Apr 2014 #90
I thought you were writing about a beer n/t intaglio Apr 2014 #12
It's America Boom Sound 416 Apr 2014 #13
Well that's the thing. I've waited a year, and it's still going strong. Chemisse Apr 2014 #47
Then consider yourself lucky Boom Sound 416 Apr 2014 #63
If you are deeply connected to Boston, the Marathon and the event of last year, Raven Apr 2014 #14
I figure your son will check in at some point. KamaAina Apr 2014 #89
Boston person here.... lived there until last August. We lived 3 blocks from the Finish Line. I secondwind Apr 2014 #15
I'm glad it is helping people who were in the thick of things. Chemisse Apr 2014 #48
Really. The first thing you list is a grammatical complaint? onenote Apr 2014 #16
Lol - they were not listed in order of significance. Chemisse Apr 2014 #49
Sounds like The Wizard Apr 2014 #17
I find it interesting that the Boston Globe remarked on the commercialization of the term mythology Apr 2014 #18
Well let's hope that means the editorial department does not dictate the headlines. Chemisse Apr 2014 #50
The owner of the Red Sox, John Henry, owns the Globe ProudToBeBlueInRhody Apr 2014 #106
Boston Strong better than Wallow in Fear.... perdita9 Apr 2014 #19
This, exactly. nt MADem Apr 2014 #44
We wallowed in fear after 9/11? progressoid Apr 2014 #70
90% of the people rallied behind that war mongering bastard bush Skittles Apr 2014 #71
I guess that's not the definition of 'wallow' than I'm used to. progressoid Apr 2014 #73
their fear and complacency enabled that bastard to start two wars Skittles Apr 2014 #74
I'd agree to that. And that it was THEIR fear and complacncy. progressoid Apr 2014 #81
Remember the run on duct tape and plastic sheeting? perdita9 Apr 2014 #87
true but the branders would say "Wallow B" or BF. JanMichael Apr 2014 #98
We didn't wallow in fear lol, we went SHOPPING! snooper2 Apr 2014 #102
We had "Jersey Strong" after the hurricane. That lasted a few months. Hoppy Apr 2014 #21
Mass self delusion that two crazy men equals a terrorist attack equals 9/11 and Boston acted SO Fred Sanders Apr 2014 #23
"Keeping up the fear has always been profitable". You nailed it! GoneFishin Apr 2014 #26
That's another thing that bugs me. Worldwide, the Boston attack was a minor incident. Chemisse Apr 2014 #51
The same month 100 Iraqi's were blown away in their daily lives......America's overreaction was Fred Sanders Apr 2014 #83
In the time it took you to post that Capt. Obvious Apr 2014 #84
Watching the response from a distance I see the phrase as ironic over compensation... Demo_Chris Apr 2014 #24
Hah! Midway Strong! nt Bragi Apr 2014 #94
They had them surruonded in a shootout in the street and the dude got away in the SUV snooper2 Apr 2014 #103
Imagine it in the Hulk's voice. Boston Strong!!! Thor_MN Apr 2014 #25
Oh, of course. That makes it much more tolerable - lol. Chemisse Apr 2014 #52
Raven is the one who "nailed it." kxs Apr 2014 #27
It's just a slogan that expresses MineralMan Apr 2014 #28
+1 Agschmid Apr 2014 #39
I never use it - lol. And I'd rather not hear it 50 times a day as well. Chemisse Apr 2014 #54
Lots of annoying stuff out there. MineralMan Apr 2014 #55
Before the marathon terrorism, there were license plates in VT saying VT Strong karynnj Apr 2014 #29
To me "boston strong" means cower in place... Jesus Malverde Apr 2014 #30
Exactly! Bragi Apr 2014 #93
You bring up an exceptionally good point(s) NJCher Apr 2014 #32
Should be "Boston Weak" - "Watertown Weak" VScott Apr 2014 #33
Yep, thats my sense too...nt Jesus Malverde Apr 2014 #36
Once again, I agree with you. Tracer Apr 2014 #80
Watertown was.. interesting... i spent several weeks doing contract work at Knowlton dionysus Apr 2014 #100
I agree on the commercialization, but not the other points Gormy Cuss Apr 2014 #34
Thanks. You make good points. Chemisse Apr 2014 #57
What are you doing inside my head? Smarmie Doofus Apr 2014 #35
Ridiculous performance? He got great reviews. His speech was a barn-burner. MADem Apr 2014 #42
No, I didn't see Biden. Chemisse Apr 2014 #58
Being out in the western part pipi_k Apr 2014 #37
I'm cool with it. Agschmid Apr 2014 #38
It is a catch phrase, a marketing tool rustydog Apr 2014 #40
Oso strong? I like that; it's funny and makes grammatical sense. Chemisse Apr 2014 #59
Turn off your TV and go sweep the sidewalk or walk the dog or volunteer at Goodwill or something. MADem Apr 2014 #41
Yup, its just like the "United We Stand!" bullshit after 9/11 quinnox Apr 2014 #45
If just a fraction of the attention paid to these unfortunate victims Chemisse Apr 2014 #61
#4 is what really irks me. GoCubsGo Apr 2014 #46
We give terrorists and attention seekers what they want jberryhill Apr 2014 #53
It seems helpful as a community rallying cry but I'll certainly give you #4. Gidney N Cloyd Apr 2014 #56
LOL! It's not just nice, it's Minnesota Nice! Chemisse Apr 2014 #62
Minnesota "nice" being the very definition of passive-aggressive. alarimer Apr 2014 #91
Years ago. October 2001..... suston96 Apr 2014 #60
Here is what I remember, two lone nuts shut down a whole city for a full day. nt Logical Apr 2014 #64
+1000 … I live in Boston Amaya Apr 2014 #66
It has been shamelessly commercialized ProudToBeBlueInRhody Apr 2014 #67
I agree! n/t bobGandolf Apr 2014 #76
I do find it rather tacky to use terrorists and their victims as props at sporting Doctor_J Apr 2014 #68
hmm arely staircase Apr 2014 #69
Bump..nt Jesus Malverde Apr 2014 #75
Everything is over done these days - Boston Strong is just one more example liberal N proud Apr 2014 #77
This is why I don't like any of those slogans or phrases. alarimer Apr 2014 #92
Just in time for the first Marathon since that day Capt. Obvious Apr 2014 #78
I've been seeing Jersey Strong JustAnotherGen Apr 2014 #79
There is no "West Strong..." 10 (5 volunteer) first responders...dead. ScreamingMeemie Apr 2014 #82
I get it. BUT, it seems to comfort the amputees and inspire others to help them merrily Apr 2014 #85
I can understand. However... Xyzse Apr 2014 #86
The illusion of strength worshiped by so many Americans is stupid... Orsino Apr 2014 #88
Message auto-removed Name removed Apr 2014 #95
Out here in Luckenbach, Tx callous taoboy Apr 2014 #99
I didn't think anyone actually lived in Luckenbach anymore! DanTex Apr 2014 #101
Should irritate would-be terrorists too though. DirkGently Apr 2014 #104
CHEERS! yuiyoshida Apr 2014 #105

madaboutharry

(40,206 posts)
1. We live in a commercialized culture,
Sun Apr 20, 2014, 07:02 AM
Apr 2014

everything needs a slogan. I agree, it's all kind of shallow and sad.

Chemisse

(30,808 posts)
5. Call it a pet peeve.
Sun Apr 20, 2014, 07:17 AM
Apr 2014

It may seem to be insignificant - and really it is in the grand scheme - but it annoys the heck out of me, mostly for reason #3.

 

magical thyme

(14,881 posts)
8. if something is in your face all the time, it gets a little old
Sun Apr 20, 2014, 07:29 AM
Apr 2014

and pretty obnoxious.

I don't read the OP as hate, so much as "enough already" with an for good measure.

Blue_Adept

(6,399 posts)
11. Pretty much.
Sun Apr 20, 2014, 07:54 AM
Apr 2014

It was expected with it being the first anniversary and that "all in" approach that the media and some enthusiastic supporters will take, for their cause or just because of how they're wired. I'm expecting it to go down a lot from here on out once we get past this marathon.

BeyondGeography

(39,369 posts)
4. The chant we do in New York is more fitting
Sun Apr 20, 2014, 07:16 AM
Apr 2014

Just kiddin' ya, Bostons. Sort of.

Once you saw it with the Red Sox logo in the "B Strong" form, you knew it would be around forever and shamelessly commercialized.

karynnj

(59,501 posts)
31. Or more directly, Vermont Strong - that started with Hurricane Irene (I think)
Sun Apr 20, 2014, 09:58 AM
Apr 2014

- I wish Cali were back - she would know! http://vtstrong.vermont.gov/

Blue_Adept

(6,399 posts)
7. Same here
Sun Apr 20, 2014, 07:23 AM
Apr 2014

When we started getting the week long lead-up to the marathon with all the events and full days news coverage of it, it leapt easily past the ridiculous level.

I'm sure it has significance to many people who experienced issues because of the event, but it quickly (within a week or two of originally gaining exposure) became too much. It's just a constant stream at times and it practically borders on the offensive at times with how it's being utilized.

You get this in any place with tragedies that happen - I can only imagine what New Yorkers had to deal with in regards to 9/11 solidarity sloganeering and such as it was enough to drive me batty just on the national level - but it's just so constant and in your face now that you tune it out and just ignore it as best as you can. Just reminds me why I ignore national and local news broadcasts. I couldn't believe WCVB spent an entire day on programming for it last week.

BeyondGeography

(39,369 posts)
10. What we had was the fetishization of first responders, particularly the Fire Department
Sun Apr 20, 2014, 07:43 AM
Apr 2014

which did lose 343 people that day. Caps and team merchandise adapting their logos; you can still buy that stuff. But, as in the case of Boston Strong, it didn't come from nowhere. It occupies less and less shelf space over time. Healing happens.

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
9. Sure, in the end it simply celebrates the fact that some people did NOT get blown up.
Sun Apr 20, 2014, 07:33 AM
Apr 2014

But it's part of the healing process, too.
[hr][font color="blue"][center]"If you're bored then you're boring." -Harvey Danger[/center][/font][hr]

MH1

(17,595 posts)
20. I'd say it's more than that.
Sun Apr 20, 2014, 08:31 AM
Apr 2014

It celebrates that the Boston community stood together during a crisis, took care of people who needed taking care of in sometimes heroic ways, but also this: they NAILED THE M*****F***ERS. Right there and then.

WITHOUT requiring years, trillions of dollars, more loss of innocent life, and invading another country.

They got 'em. Don't f*ck with Boston.

(and I'm not even from Boston. But I'll give them this.)

drynberg

(1,648 posts)
90. My thoughts exactly, plus all this gestering is a form of...
Mon Apr 21, 2014, 08:35 PM
Apr 2014

Whistling in the dark...all these folks are reclaiming their city and the feeling of safety at an event such as the Marathon. Of course the commercialization is way too much, but all these "Boston Strong" logos on items were purchased by free will consumers, just not some of us.

 

Boom Sound 416

(4,185 posts)
63. Then consider yourself lucky
Sun Apr 20, 2014, 12:47 PM
Apr 2014

And perhaps repost in one of those 'I have a first world problem' threads.

I'm sure the families devastated would be happy to swap with you, as well.

Raven

(13,889 posts)
14. If you are deeply connected to Boston, the Marathon and the event of last year,
Sun Apr 20, 2014, 08:02 AM
Apr 2014

"Boston Strong" is not annoying. Commercializing it and belittling what happened is.

secondwind

(16,903 posts)
15. Boston person here.... lived there until last August. We lived 3 blocks from the Finish Line. I
Sun Apr 20, 2014, 08:02 AM
Apr 2014

found the words BOSTON STRONG helped me tremendously in the days and weeks following the bombings. It was everywhere, on our buses, and painted on walls on Boylston Street.

BOSTON STRONG... love it.

onenote

(42,693 posts)
16. Really. The first thing you list is a grammatical complaint?
Sun Apr 20, 2014, 08:08 AM
Apr 2014

You must find reading this board very difficult at times.

Chemisse

(30,808 posts)
49. Lol - they were not listed in order of significance.
Sun Apr 20, 2014, 11:36 AM
Apr 2014

But yes, I find bad grammar mildly annoying in general. But more so if it's going to be screamed from the rooftops.

The Wizard

(12,541 posts)
17. Sounds like
Sun Apr 20, 2014, 08:15 AM
Apr 2014

it could be s kind of coffee or bathtub whiskey from the Prohibition era. Or in modern parlance, a strain of Cannabis Indica.

 

mythology

(9,527 posts)
18. I find it interesting that the Boston Globe remarked on the commercialization of the term
Sun Apr 20, 2014, 08:22 AM
Apr 2014

Considering my boss has a picture from the Boston Globe upon the Red Sox winning the World Series titled "Boston Strongest"

Chemisse

(30,808 posts)
50. Well let's hope that means the editorial department does not dictate the headlines.
Sun Apr 20, 2014, 11:37 AM
Apr 2014

It's likely a minority opinion among their many editorial pieces.

perdita9

(1,144 posts)
19. Boston Strong better than Wallow in Fear....
Sun Apr 20, 2014, 08:26 AM
Apr 2014

...which is what we got after 9/11.

I like that we are getting a lot of positive energy out of a horrific crime.

Good for, Boston, in setting up an example on how we should all behave after a terrorist attack.

Skittles

(153,147 posts)
74. their fear and complacency enabled that bastard to start two wars
Mon Apr 21, 2014, 03:23 AM
Apr 2014

I'd put that in WALLOWING territory

progressoid

(49,978 posts)
81. I'd agree to that. And that it was THEIR fear and complacncy.
Mon Apr 21, 2014, 09:11 AM
Apr 2014

A fair number of us were doing the opposite.

perdita9

(1,144 posts)
87. Remember the run on duct tape and plastic sheeting?
Mon Apr 21, 2014, 01:12 PM
Apr 2014

Or how about the time John Kerry was making a speech and the Bush administration raised the terror threat level? Bush/Cheney used fear as a weapon and Americans fell for it, all too easy.

JanMichael

(24,881 posts)
98. true but the branders would say "Wallow B" or BF.
Tue Apr 22, 2014, 07:33 AM
Apr 2014

It is like baby bump. One has to shorten it to shallowness.

 

Hoppy

(3,595 posts)
21. We had "Jersey Strong" after the hurricane. That lasted a few months.
Sun Apr 20, 2014, 08:40 AM
Apr 2014

I guess no one could figure out how to make $$ off of it (except for a few tee shirts and a couple of billboards.

Fred Sanders

(23,946 posts)
23. Mass self delusion that two crazy men equals a terrorist attack equals 9/11 and Boston acted SO
Sun Apr 20, 2014, 08:52 AM
Apr 2014

Differently than NY....essentially media created, bought and sold commercialization of a tragedy that worked out well for the job creators, not so well for those having to be constantly reminded that it was not them that died or were maimed.

Keeping up the fear has always been profitable.

GoneFishin

(5,217 posts)
26. "Keeping up the fear has always been profitable". You nailed it!
Sun Apr 20, 2014, 09:38 AM
Apr 2014

If the police had invaded my neighborhood with military style tactics, and I was too stupid to notice that they had parlayed a violent criminal act into a psychological experiment on how to get the masses to surrender their civil rights, I probably would want to forget about it as soon as possible.

They could have simply asked for the public's help using TV and radio, and the public would have been eager to help. And, they would have accomplished just as much.

Chemisse

(30,808 posts)
51. That's another thing that bugs me. Worldwide, the Boston attack was a minor incident.
Sun Apr 20, 2014, 11:44 AM
Apr 2014

Many other cities have been and continue to be attacked in horrific ways. The heavy emphasis on the marathon bombings as an earth-shattering event must evoke bitter derision from those who suffer loss of life from terrorists regularly.

Fred Sanders

(23,946 posts)
83. The same month 100 Iraqi's were blown away in their daily lives......America's overreaction was
Mon Apr 21, 2014, 09:49 AM
Apr 2014

noticed everywhere else. And it is month after month after month in Iraq.

 

Demo_Chris

(6,234 posts)
24. Watching the response from a distance I see the phrase as ironic over compensation...
Sun Apr 20, 2014, 09:01 AM
Apr 2014

With the exception of the actual victims, the response to this attack wasn't simply weak, it was so shockingly and terrifyingly craven that much of the rest of the country was left wondering what the hell was wrong with the locals over there..

When viewed in light of what the people of Boston actually DID, the phrase seems more the type of thing an embarrassed parent might tell a nine year old who wet their pants in on the Carousel, "You're such a brave little guy! You're Midway Strong!" The difference being that the police don't arrive with guns and tanks to yank down the pants of every middle-schooler at the fair and demand they too don Huggies -- that being something the 'Boston Strong' crowd would no doubt celebrate.

Strong? The proper phrase should be "Boston Embarrassed!"

But that's just my opinion.

 

snooper2

(30,151 posts)
103. They had them surruonded in a shootout in the street and the dude got away in the SUV
Tue Apr 22, 2014, 01:44 PM
Apr 2014

I thought that was fail right there

kxs

(20 posts)
27. Raven is the one who "nailed it."
Sun Apr 20, 2014, 09:50 AM
Apr 2014

"Boston Strong" by itself, during the first week was anything but annoying (I live in Boston). But what has been done to what was once a useful (in terms of dealing with the crisis) slogan, is what is truly bothersome. But in the scheme of things it is just a minor irritant in my book - I just don't buy anything with it and move on. I prefer to spend my time blasting the policies of the GOP since in addition to annoying me, they hurt me - and millions of other Americans. If it wasn't "Boston Strong" it'd probably end up to be something I hate even more.

MineralMan

(146,286 posts)
28. It's just a slogan that expresses
Sun Apr 20, 2014, 09:53 AM
Apr 2014

community solidarity. If you don't like it, don't use it. That's my advice.

Chemisse

(30,808 posts)
54. I never use it - lol. And I'd rather not hear it 50 times a day as well.
Sun Apr 20, 2014, 11:47 AM
Apr 2014

Hopefully it will die out after the anniversary passes. It's been a long year.

karynnj

(59,501 posts)
29. Before the marathon terrorism, there were license plates in VT saying VT Strong
Sun Apr 20, 2014, 09:56 AM
Apr 2014

I am sure of the timing because they were there before we lived here and I was told that they were a response to Hurricane Irene's destruction. The message was obvious - that the state and its people were both tough -and more importantly - a community that would band together to fix what was broken.

I think Boston Strong was very similar - a strong community that used this slogan to say that they would get past this and not let it change who they were.

As to the commerial use of the slogan -- it is sad to hear that much of that merchandise does not benefit the town or the people hurt in the bombing.

Jesus Malverde

(10,274 posts)
30. To me "boston strong" means cower in place...
Sun Apr 20, 2014, 09:56 AM
Apr 2014

Then come out when we say so, only then, a civilian reports the hiding bomber.

The narrative is of the great police hunt but in reality the bomber was caught by a civilian tip after the cower in place order was lifted.

Bragi

(7,650 posts)
93. Exactly!
Mon Apr 21, 2014, 09:00 PM
Apr 2014

Keep your hands up, lie down on your lawn, and smile while we search your house. Any problem with that?

 

VScott

(774 posts)
33. Should be "Boston Weak" - "Watertown Weak"
Sun Apr 20, 2014, 10:01 AM
Apr 2014

I live about two blocks from where the shootout took place... where the cops shot and almost killed one of their own guys.
Fortunately, I wasn't home at the time so I didn't have to "shelter in place.
I did however have to wait about 6 hours before I was allowed to reenter the danger zone.
Just as well, I didn't feel like dealing with the bullshit.

From my perspective, the police response was waaaay over the top.
The public response was predictable and a bit frightening.
It merely confirmed my beliefs and observations of how we've become too accepting and welcoming of the militarization
of the police state, and willingness to cooperate and comply with it.

Tracer

(2,769 posts)
80. Once again, I agree with you.
Mon Apr 21, 2014, 07:50 AM
Apr 2014

Closing down the whole city was a complete over reaction.

My son lives in Watertown, and took some photos of a SWAT team in his backyard. Thankfully, they weren't shooting at his house, as they did a couple of blocks away.

dionysus

(26,467 posts)
100. Watertown was.. interesting... i spent several weeks doing contract work at Knowlton
Tue Apr 22, 2014, 01:27 PM
Apr 2014

a few years back...

Gormy Cuss

(30,884 posts)
34. I agree on the commercialization, but not the other points
Sun Apr 20, 2014, 10:01 AM
Apr 2014

It has emerged as a rallying phrase just as "Let's roll" did after 9/11. In the short term it is cathartic for those traumatized by the event. In the long term, it will die out just as "Let's roll" has.

#1, it means both that Boston is a strong community and that Boston strength is a special brand. If you've never lived in other areas you may not recognize the latter. That ties into #2. I would say emphatically that other communities would have reacted differently in many ways small and large. Sure, everyone would pursue the bombers. Not every community though would want to openly and repeatedly tell such malcontents to buzz off .
As for #3, I don't think it's evoking a false solidarity --it's evoking the short-term, crisis-based solidarity of a community needing to heal. That's why as I wrote above, "Boston strong" will die out just as "Let's roll" did.

--Gormy, former long term Bostonian.

 

Smarmie Doofus

(14,498 posts)
35. What are you doing inside my head?
Sun Apr 20, 2014, 10:03 AM
Apr 2014

Best DU post of the month.

We (NYC) went thru a lot of the same dysfunctional reaction after 9/11. The simple minded , self congratulatory, jingoistic mentality that spiked then led to three terms of Bloomberg and a second term for Bush. Point: there are real-life significant political consequences to this type of taking leave of our COLLECTIVE senses.

>>>This is the emotion that rears up during football games or drives patriotism in times of war. It is described by social psychology. A thoughtful society should not be driven by its animal emotions.>>>>>

Indeed. Oh yeah.

Q.: Did Biden's ridiculous performance the other day prompt this post?


MADem

(135,425 posts)
42. Ridiculous performance? He got great reviews. His speech was a barn-burner.
Sun Apr 20, 2014, 10:21 AM
Apr 2014

The only people I know who didn't like it aren't fans of Joe, anyway.

pipi_k

(21,020 posts)
37. Being out in the western part
Sun Apr 20, 2014, 10:10 AM
Apr 2014

of the state, many of us feel like we don't matter.

We're like the ugly stepchild...mainly ignored unless we put up a stink, which I think we don't do often enough, but anyway...

Like any saying that ends up getting overused, it's become a bit annoying, but mostly embarrassing.

But I think its use will fade more and more as time goes on.

rustydog

(9,186 posts)
40. It is a catch phrase, a marketing tool
Sun Apr 20, 2014, 10:17 AM
Apr 2014

We had a devastating mudslide in our area killing dozens...the OSO mudslide.
signs everywhere: Oso Strong...

It is a marketing thing. it does help generate support, money for relief, raise awareness etc.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
41. Turn off your TV and go sweep the sidewalk or walk the dog or volunteer at Goodwill or something.
Sun Apr 20, 2014, 10:18 AM
Apr 2014

Or just pick up the remote and change the channel if you don't want to get off the couch.

Why begrudge people something they find helpful?

When people are tired of the theme, they'll let the media know. It generates espirit de corps...even if you aren't feeling it.

I still get a kick out of seeing that uncensored clip of Papi telling the crowd at Fenway whose city it is. Not to everyone's taste...but it suits me fine.

 

quinnox

(20,600 posts)
45. Yup, its just like the "United We Stand!" bullshit after 9/11
Sun Apr 20, 2014, 10:35 AM
Apr 2014

And its another example of how the media plays up America as victims, but doesn't mention the many victims of America's military and wars such as the "war on terror".

Why don't we ever hear about them? Why do people want to attack America in the first place?

Chemisse

(30,808 posts)
61. If just a fraction of the attention paid to these unfortunate victims
Sun Apr 20, 2014, 11:59 AM
Apr 2014

(which I do not begrudge at all - I think it's great) were paid to returning veterans who suffered the same fate, I think there would be a reduction in the tragic suicide rate and perhaps an easing of the PTSD they endure.

GoCubsGo

(32,079 posts)
46. #4 is what really irks me.
Sun Apr 20, 2014, 10:57 AM
Apr 2014

Whenever some sports fan from another city produced a poster or t-shirt stating "Boston strong. 'My city' stronger", they would become apoplectic, screaming that this person was exploiting a tragedy. Yet, they've been silent whenever Boston fans use the slogan, or when their teams parade around bombing victims during pre-game ceremonies. I guess when they do it, it's not exploiting a tragedy, only when outsiders do it?

Gidney N Cloyd

(19,833 posts)
56. It seems helpful as a community rallying cry but I'll certainly give you #4.
Sun Apr 20, 2014, 11:49 AM
Apr 2014

As for #1, I don't think it's any worse than 'Minnesota Nice'

alarimer

(16,245 posts)
91. Minnesota "nice" being the very definition of passive-aggressive.
Mon Apr 21, 2014, 08:44 PM
Apr 2014

What to say when you don't like something: "That's different."

Or it's like "Bless your heart" in the south." THAT really means "F you."

suston96

(4,175 posts)
60. Years ago. October 2001.....
Sun Apr 20, 2014, 11:55 AM
Apr 2014

.....I went to Sicily in a group travel from Boston. Sicily is my birthplace and I just wanted to visit and see the place where I was born. My mother brought me to America when I was just 8 months old.....

But on with the story.....

We went out in a group to a restaurant featuring native Sicilian costumes and dances. As a group, we looked and sounded very American.

Before the dancers started, the leader of the Sicilian dancers looked at us and held up his hand in a V for victory sign and loudly urged us Americans, in Sicilian:

"State forte, Americani!" Be strong, Americans!



So when the Boston "Be strong" came around, I understood what was being said. In my own way, of course....

That trip to my birthplace just after 9/11 2001, and a very thoughtful Sicilian dancer..........
 

Doctor_J

(36,392 posts)
68. I do find it rather tacky to use terrorists and their victims as props at sporting
Sun Apr 20, 2014, 11:53 PM
Apr 2014

events. But we live in a culture with almost no shame, so I just ignore it

arely staircase

(12,482 posts)
69. hmm
Mon Apr 21, 2014, 12:03 AM
Apr 2014

1). seems to be an adjective modifying another adjective with an implied noun and verb (we are, maybe?)

2). Well one of the best ways to be resilient is to reassure yourself.

3). Typical human (primate?) survival reaction. sure other great apes don't have language but I think most do rally as a group when threatened (again. I think).

4). Sounds like it has been shamelessly commercialized.

I don't live there so I will defer to you.

That's my two cents.

liberal N proud

(60,334 posts)
77. Everything is over done these days - Boston Strong is just one more example
Mon Apr 21, 2014, 06:38 AM
Apr 2014

No matter what it is, they keep it in you face until you are just sick of it.

I am with you on this and so many other phrases the media uses as propaganda to persuade us.

alarimer

(16,245 posts)
92. This is why I don't like any of those slogans or phrases.
Mon Apr 21, 2014, 08:47 PM
Apr 2014

And if you dare to disagree, you are pilloried for it.

And then I was hearing about the over-the-top security response today. I would never have gone anywhere near that place under those circumstances. Not because I'm afraid of crowds, but because I'm tired of the security state.

Hell, our bags were searched going into the Air and Space Museum yesterday. Somehow we have just blindly accepted this assault on freedom in the name of "security." Never mind that it will make no difference at all.

JustAnotherGen

(31,810 posts)
79. I've been seeing Jersey Strong
Mon Apr 21, 2014, 07:33 AM
Apr 2014

For a couple of years now - I totally get what you are saying here.

I have a friend running today - just because she is defiant and refuses to back down from a 'fight'. She's from Boston (Now lives in Long Island) - but I've not seen one "Boston Strong" image/words on her social networking sites. I'm sponsoring her - because she's also running for a cause on the side.

ScreamingMeemie

(68,918 posts)
82. There is no "West Strong..." 10 (5 volunteer) first responders...dead.
Mon Apr 21, 2014, 09:20 AM
Apr 2014

15 people in total. A year ago last week. Created by corporate greed.

That is where my heart and head have been. With a town actually destroyed.

merrily

(45,251 posts)
85. I get it. BUT, it seems to comfort the amputees and inspire others to help them
Mon Apr 21, 2014, 10:05 AM
Apr 2014

in a variety of ways.

The marathon bombing was not a loss of 3000 lives. Still, a terrorist attack is a shock to people who live in the area--and I live in, as they say, "Boston proper." So, on balance, even though I share some of your thought on it, I'd rather see "Boston Strong" used than not.

As for those who see to profit selfishly from use of the slogan, no words. Same is true about so much of unmitigated personal greed. Like General Motors deciding to send potentially deadly cars into the country, rather than use a relatively cheap fix. (I think someone said $.22 a car?) But, almost anything can be, and often is, exploited for personal gain.

Xyzse

(8,217 posts)
86. I can understand. However...
Mon Apr 21, 2014, 10:10 AM
Apr 2014

I am not one to begrudge people their means of coping or whatever gives them comfort.

That is, unless it is self destructive or hurts any one.
So, something like this, even if it can get annoying, I tend to ignore or support depending on how much it helps.

Orsino

(37,428 posts)
88. The illusion of strength worshiped by so many Americans is stupid...
Mon Apr 21, 2014, 01:56 PM
Apr 2014

...but Boston Strong seems at worst to be a relatively innocuous example. I have no problem with it.

Response to Chemisse (Original post)

DirkGently

(12,151 posts)
104. Should irritate would-be terrorists too though.
Tue Apr 22, 2014, 01:52 PM
Apr 2014

To the extent there's a cheese factor, I would think someone hoping to terrify and horrify people with a bloody assault like the Boston bombing would be even more appalled than if the city just slowly recovered and moved on.

"Aha, my terrorist brethren, the anniversary of our brutal deed approaches. What wailing comes from our victim, the city of Boston?"

"Er. They're making, like hoodies and things."

"Hoodies to hide their fear? Hoodies of mourning and prostrate agony and suffering?"

"No. Just hoodies. They say, 'Boston strong.' It's kind of a slogan about recovering. It's everywhere, like an ad jingle, sort of? People seem to like it. You, know, the kids. It's pretty jaunty, though perhaps a bit glib ..."

"Oh Jesus. Or whomever. You know what I mean. Just ... just f*ck it."


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