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Jesus Malverde

(10,274 posts)
Tue Apr 22, 2014, 02:47 AM Apr 2014

The U.S. Military Is a Socialist Paradise

In an era defined by 13 years of continuous war, most Americans still seem to regard the U.S. military as a mysterious and remote way of life. Then a tragedy involving a soldier or veteran happens, and reliably experts come forward to explain the strange customs of the folkloric troop in its native habitat. Shame that so many of the experts seem to have barely a clue what the military is really like. They’ve studied it from a distance without getting a real feel for the customs and characteristics of the culture they’re eager to explain.


It probably comes as a surprise to many, but the army may have more in common with Norway than Sparta.

The U.S. military is a socialist paradise. Imagine a testing ground where every signature liberal program of the past century has been applied, from racial integration to single-payer health care—then add personal honor, strict hierarchy, and more guns. Like all socialist paradises, the military has been responsible for its share of bloodshed, but it has developed one of the only working models of collective living and social welfare that this country has ever known.

Not that the leadership always gets things right and protects those who serve. Over and over again, the military has betrayed its own best principles and traditions, from the practical exclusion of non-white veterans from the World War II G.I. Bill to the massive lapses and failures in the VA system and today’s rising dependence on food stamps in military homes. The military suffers from the same problems that all mammoth bureaucracies do but less so, because its membership largely believes in its core values and has seen those values upheld often enough to expect action when they are betrayed.

So what’s life like for those in uniform living in the socialist paradise?

The military is an enormous jobs program. There are more than 2 million active duty and reserve members of the armed forces spread out between bases in more than 150 countries. As with any employer of that size, you’ll get a range of answers about working conditions depending on who you ask and how much they got screwed by the bureaucracy, let down by their leaders, or punished by circumstance.

Across the thousands of bases where soldiers, marines, and airmen live with their families, a few common features shape military life. It’s the commonness of the life, actually, that makes it unique. From Fort Bragg to Camp Pendleton, there is a shared experience on a scale that exists almost nowhere else in America.


http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/04/21/troops-of-the-uniform-unite-the-military-is-a-socialist-paradise.html

When congress men get sick they don't run to blue cross they go to Walter reed.

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The U.S. Military Is a Socialist Paradise (Original Post) Jesus Malverde Apr 2014 OP
The difference is that once you don't contribute... Hip_Flask Apr 2014 #1
Somewhat, you still have access to the VA...nt Jesus Malverde Apr 2014 #5
For the honorably discharged... Hip_Flask Apr 2014 #6
I think the focus is on active service. Jesus Malverde Apr 2014 #7
They do pay for their electricity and services... Hip_Flask Apr 2014 #8
really ?? DustyJoe Apr 2014 #2
The Military is much more than a jobs program... MrScorpio Apr 2014 #3
+1 Couldn't agree more! B Calm Apr 2014 #4
 

Hip_Flask

(233 posts)
6. For the honorably discharged...
Tue Apr 22, 2014, 10:52 AM
Apr 2014

... those are earned benefits.

While the low performers and OTH dischargees may retain some benefits it isn't the equality free for all that the author is implying.



Jesus Malverde

(10,274 posts)
7. I think the focus is on active service.
Tue Apr 22, 2014, 10:56 AM
Apr 2014

bases that have community centers with amenities like pools, and other sport facilities, base housing, PX's with cheaper goods than elsewhere.

Do soldiers pay for electric when they are living in base housing. The list of communal facilities and amenities is a long one.

 

Hip_Flask

(233 posts)
8. They do pay for their electricity and services...
Tue Apr 22, 2014, 11:04 AM
Apr 2014

If you are focusing on active duty, then I think the point stands even more.

Those facilities and access are available but only as long as you are contributing and doing your work.

That doesn't translate to a society at large who, ethically, can't just eject the undesirables or those who fall by the wayside.

DustyJoe

(849 posts)
2. really ??
Tue Apr 22, 2014, 06:44 AM
Apr 2014

I think you would have a hard time finding an 18yr old draftee in 1966, deployed to the tropic paradise of Vietnam describing their 2 years of service as a 'paradise'. Maybe i'm wrong, but I don't remember a single soul back then having any glowing descriptions of the Army life.

MrScorpio

(73,631 posts)
3. The Military is much more than a jobs program...
Tue Apr 22, 2014, 07:31 AM
Apr 2014

It's a perpetual economic engine, chugging along in defiance against every single law of thermodynamics.

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