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Dawson Leery

(19,348 posts)
Tue Apr 22, 2014, 07:46 PM Apr 2014

Does Fox "News" promote animosity towards minorities or do they bring out what already exists?

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/more-on-the-fox-effect-part-4

" I've been reading your Fox Effect posts with interest, but I think you may be missing an important, if more sinister, point here. The people your correspondents are discussing -- usually their parents, and older ones at that -- grew up at a strange time in American history. The 1930-1960s were decades of shocking and profound changes in America and the world. And nowhere were those changes more evident than in race relations. And while the country has evolved, as one correspondent has it, I am not sure that evolution took with many people from that generation. And I think Fox News has liberated latent anger, dislike and prejudice that simply did not have an acceptable outlet in polite society in the pre-Obama days.

Let's take my grandmother, for instance. She's 93, grew up in Washington, DC, where she has lived all her life, and always had what one might term "antiquated" views on race. She wasn't racist in the Archie Bunker way, but she clearly retained Washington's Old South views on race relations, though until recently she covered it quite well. Fast forward to the Obama years -- and her turning on Fox a bit too much -- and the old, suppressed racism is on full display. She is also angry at "immigrants," conveniently forgetting that she was born in Eastern Europe.

But here's the thing: I don't think Fox changed her in any serious way; I believe Fox has changed what counts for permissible rhetoric on race and social ills in this country. And I think that the old, suppressed views on race from the childhood of older Boomers and the remaining Depression-era generation are liberated by that permissiveness. It's not Fox spewing hate that makes these people hate. They already hated, but for decades it just wasn't ok to say it out loud, and you saw little of it in the mainstream media. Now, however, it's ok to say it out loud because the guys on TV say it, and so others must also believe it. Scary stuff."
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Does Fox "News" promote animosity towards minorities or do they bring out what already exists? (Original Post) Dawson Leery Apr 2014 OP
Both Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Apr 2014 #1
both JI7 Apr 2014 #2
Both. 2naSalit Apr 2014 #3
Another vote for Both. Brigid Apr 2014 #4
They intentionally exacerbate a problem which already exists. 11 Bravo Apr 2014 #5
Both Gothmog Apr 2014 #6
Also 'both'. The 'old south' dies very, very hard here in Alabama. trof Apr 2014 #7
Connect the dots: alp227 Apr 2014 #8
What they do Old Codger Apr 2014 #9
If you let Bill O'Lielly tell it... butterfly77 Apr 2014 #10
I'd say both, but I'd add rightwing hate radio into the mix. Arugula Latte Apr 2014 #11
Every single Jamaal510 Apr 2014 #12

11 Bravo

(23,926 posts)
5. They intentionally exacerbate a problem which already exists.
Tue Apr 22, 2014, 08:17 PM
Apr 2014

Anything which frightens or angers old white people is playing to their base.
(Sadly for them they aren't as effective as they would like to be, because this old white person thinks that they are totally full of shit.)

trof

(54,256 posts)
7. Also 'both'. The 'old south' dies very, very hard here in Alabama.
Tue Apr 22, 2014, 08:21 PM
Apr 2014

Occasionally one of my redneck friends lapses and forgets that 'nigger' is no longer socially acceptable.


Yes, I have redneck, racist friends.
We share other interests.

Such is life.


alp227

(32,019 posts)
8. Connect the dots:
Tue Apr 22, 2014, 09:37 PM
Apr 2014

Nixon campaign -> Southern strategy (thinly veiled bigotry in more generalized, abstract code words)

AND the 1970s GOP-TV project -> the predecessor of FNC

 

butterfly77

(17,609 posts)
10. If you let Bill O'Lielly tell it...
Tue Apr 22, 2014, 10:34 PM
Apr 2014

any and every problem in the world is due to black people and whites are virtuous and the angels of the world. He also believes the only way to solve everything is charter schools,private schools,orphanges,jails and really slavery,O'lielly is in his 80's if you didn't grow up in Levitown you are just fucked up...

 

Arugula Latte

(50,566 posts)
11. I'd say both, but I'd add rightwing hate radio into the mix.
Tue Apr 22, 2014, 10:37 PM
Apr 2014

Also, in the case of many very old people, let's face it, their filters tend to go. So perhaps when they were in their 50s and 60s they were better at hiding racist tendencies, by the time they're in their 70s, 80s, or 90s it is pretty much a direct connection from the brain to the mouth. They say half of people age 85 or older have some form of dementia.

My mom dates a mid-70s racist whose filter seems to be getting weaker all the time.

Disclaimer: I am NOT saying that all old people are racist, or have dementia, or have lost their filters.

Jamaal510

(10,893 posts)
12. Every single
Wed Apr 23, 2014, 01:22 AM
Apr 2014

one of their anchors is a professional propagandist. They all get paid to parrot easily-refuted talking points in order to scare their viewers on a regular basis.

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