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big_dog

(4,144 posts)
Fri Apr 25, 2014, 05:07 PM Apr 2014

Birther Pastor Overlooks Slavery, Proclaims Cliven Bundy ‘Absolutely, 100% Right'

As Republicans denounce and disavow rancher Cliven Bundy, whose conservative folk hero status was derailed when he suggested that black people might have been better off in slavery, the scofflaw rancher has at least one big fan remaining. Birther pastor James David Manning recorded a video response Thursday immediately upon turning off a live news conference held by Bundy, whom he said was “absolutely, 100 percent correct.”

“Cliven Bundy is no racist; he is a man of compassion,” Manning said. “Only a person with compassion would ask the question: Are you doing better now sitting on the sidewalks in a government-subsidized house of Las Vegas, or would you rather be back in South Carolina with a garden, where you can go out and eat fresh tomatoes right out of the field, you can go and eat your vegetables right out of the field, grow your own cucumbers and have your own chickens and your own hogs — and are you better off now?” Manning spoke for nearly nine minutes without uttering the most relevant word in the Bundy controversy: slavery. “He has no hatred for black people, he’s just wondering would they be better off under the circumstances that preceded the present mindset of civil rights, the African-American identity and other things,” Manning said.

The rancher, who has repeatedly cited his own freedom as an American citizen as justification for disregarding federal laws and regulations of his agricultural business, made several observations about black people that have been widely condemned. “They abort their young children, they put their young men in jail, because they never learned how to pick cotton, and I’ve often wondered, are they better off as slaves, picking cotton and having a family life and doing things, or are they better off under government subsidy?” Bundy mused earlier this week. “They didn’t get no more freedom. They got less freedom.”

Manning spoke at length in the video about his own childhood, picking cotton in North Carolina. “It was the work ethic I developed in the cotton field, it was the respect for humanity, it was the fact that I had a father and a mother in the home and we went to church all as a family, and we eschewed evil and we loved God, that they were able to determine at Bankers Trust and Procter and Gamble and other places I worked that I had the kind of ethics and the morality and the ability to do those companies well,” Manning said. http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/04/25/birther-pastor-overlooks-slavery-proclaims-cliven-bundy-absolutely-100-percent-right/

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Birther Pastor Overlooks Slavery, Proclaims Cliven Bundy ‘Absolutely, 100% Right' (Original Post) big_dog Apr 2014 OP
lol- he had a family because his children weren't sold into slavery. OKNancy Apr 2014 #1
'Are you doing better now sitting on the sidewalks in a government-subsidized house of Las Vegas' Rex Apr 2014 #2
Clearly, people on welfare are getting something the rest of us aren't wryter2000 Apr 2014 #6
Well ... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2014 #3
Did slaves even get to have gardens of their own? wryter2000 Apr 2014 #7
Most couldnt read or write and were prevented from getting an education 951-Riverside Apr 2014 #11
This may have happened to some slaves ... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2014 #13
Per the Slave Narratives ... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2014 #12
Thanks wryter2000 Apr 2014 #15
This. Jamaal510 Apr 2014 #8
Of course... Why am I not surprised? 951-Riverside Apr 2014 #4
He sure doth protest too much. 951-Riverside Apr 2014 #9
Well, well. Looks like someone has been paid to say ridiculous things! mfcorey1 Apr 2014 #5
I'd sentence him to repeated screenings of the film 12 Years a Slave. TeamPooka Apr 2014 #10
I see Uncle Ruckus standingtall Apr 2014 #14
 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
2. 'Are you doing better now sitting on the sidewalks in a government-subsidized house of Las Vegas'
Fri Apr 25, 2014, 05:13 PM
Apr 2014

What kind of freaking racist, insane crap is that? Who has sidewalks inside their govt-sub house in Las Vegas?

WTF does that even mean?

wryter2000

(46,023 posts)
6. Clearly, people on welfare are getting something the rest of us aren't
Fri Apr 25, 2014, 06:17 PM
Apr 2014

Where do I get my sidewalk inside my house?

<- in case anyone missed it.

 

1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)
3. Well ...
Fri Apr 25, 2014, 06:09 PM
Apr 2014

“Cliven Bundy is no racist; he is a man of compassion,” Manning said. “Only a person with compassion would ask the question: Are you doing better now sitting on the sidewalks in a government-subsidized house of Las Vegas, or would you rather be back in South Carolina with a garden, where you can go out and eat fresh tomatoes right out of the field, you can go and eat your vegetables right out of the field, grow your own cucumbers and have your own chickens and your own hogs — and are you better off now?”


Yeah, Bundy has a point ... if you overlook the whole, being owned as property - having your family sold away from you - having your wife, daughters and, sometimes yourself and sons, being raped at the master or overseer's whim, thing.

wryter2000

(46,023 posts)
7. Did slaves even get to have gardens of their own?
Fri Apr 25, 2014, 06:19 PM
Apr 2014

I'm pretty sure they didn't get to have their own pigs.

 

951-Riverside

(7,234 posts)
11. Most couldnt read or write and were prevented from getting an education
Fri Apr 25, 2014, 06:38 PM
Apr 2014

And you know what happened to a slave who got sick or injured?

They were killed and most were worked to death that they never reached old age.

If I ran into Bundy I would slap him across that ranch of his that was stolen from Native Americans by the feds in the 1870's.

 

1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)
13. This may have happened to some slaves ...
Fri Apr 25, 2014, 07:06 PM
Apr 2014

under the cruelest of slave owners; but per the Slave Narrative, few were killed because they were old or sick ... most were "allowed" to died (most times with only the medical care other slaves could provide).

The reality is, most slave owners took about the same care of their slaves as the did with any of their other farming investments (e.g., tools, live-stock, machinery or wagons), as slaves cost money.

 

1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)
12. Per the Slave Narratives ...
Fri Apr 25, 2014, 07:01 PM
Apr 2014

some (a few) were allowed gardens and even livestock (chickens, goats, even pigs); but this was not done out of any sense of benevolence, rather, the slaves ate what they raised ... after whatever work they were assigned.

 

951-Riverside

(7,234 posts)
9. He sure doth protest too much.
Fri Apr 25, 2014, 06:29 PM
Apr 2014

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He reminds of Pastor Eddie Long

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Eddie Long had a long history of preaching again gays, gay sex and gay marriage. He once led a march against gays through the streets of Atlanta, and described homosexuality as a “spiritual abortion." only to settle out of court with 4 men who accused him of sexually abusing them when they were teens. (Quoting the ABC article)

http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/headlines/2011/12/megachurch-pastor-eddie-long-leaves-church-after-wife-files-for-divorce/

standingtall

(2,785 posts)
14. I see Uncle Ruckus
Fri Apr 25, 2014, 07:20 PM
Apr 2014

is at it again. This another clown like Alex Jones that pretended to support occupy wall street,but in reality he worships wealth and hates the poor especially if their black just like most teabaggers.

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