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Ichingcarpenter

(36,988 posts)
Sat Apr 26, 2014, 03:41 AM Apr 2014

FCC's new net neutrality proposal is even worse than you think. Slate

This is what we already know. The FCC is going to propose that cable and phone companies such as Verizon, AT&T, and Time Warner Cable are allowed to discriminate against them, giving some websites better service and others worse service. Cable and phone companies will be able to make preferred deals with the companies that can afford to pay high fees for better service. They will even be allowed to make exclusive deals, such as making MSNBC.com the only news site on Comcast in the priority tier, and relegating competitors to a slow lane. The FCC is authorizing cable and phone companies to start making different deals with thousands or millions of websites, extracting money from sites that need to load quickly and reliably. So users will notice that Netflix or Hulu works better than Amazon Prime, which buffers repeatedly and is choppy. New sites will come along and be unable to compete with established giants. If we had had such discrimination a decade ago, we would still be using MySpace, not Facebook, because Facebook would have been unable to compete.

The chairman believes he can help us in one way: He will make sure all these highly discriminatory new tolls are “commercially reasonable.” Will that matter? No. Commercially reasonable deals won’t be measured by the market. If Amazon is paying twice what eBay is paying, the FCC will only make sure each price is reasonable, not that the prices are nondiscriminatory.

So here’s where it gets even worse than you thought. The FCC will propose an incredibly vague and complicated multifactor test, one that takes into account the market conditions, technology, alternatives available to each side, competitive dynamics. This is the kind of stuff that requires very expensive expert witnesses in very expensive legal proceedings. There may be up to 16 factors listed, plus a catch-all for “other factors.”

So, according to the FCC, when Verizon discriminates against a startup, we shouldn’t be alarmed, because (while being discriminated against), this startup can hire a lot of expensive lawyers and expert witnesses and meet Verizon (a company worth more than $100 billion) at the FCC and litigate this issue out, with no certainty as to the rule. The startup will almost certainly lose either at the FCC or on appeal to a higher court, after bleeding money on lawyers.

How do I know this? The FCC doesn’t have any power except the power granted by Congress in a collection of permission slips (called laws). Section 706 is one of those permission slips. The problem is: You can’t do network neutrality under Section 706. Back in January, the D.C. Circuit struck down the FCC’s last attempt at net neutrality, saying that Section 706 does not permit the commission to stop nondiscrimination. It pointed to another legal decision, concerning data roaming, in which the FCC adopted a 16-factor test like the one I explained above. Based on an earlier case, the FCC can probably ban one or two specific practices, such as blocking certain websites or applications. That’s about it.

http://www.slate.com/blogs/future_tense/2014/04/24/fcc_s_new_net_neutrality_proposal_is_even_worse_than_you_think.html

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FCC's new net neutrality proposal is even worse than you think. Slate (Original Post) Ichingcarpenter Apr 2014 OP
I knew it was too good to last. defacto7 Apr 2014 #1
, blkmusclmachine Apr 2014 #2
Who put this fox in charge of the hen house????? emsimon33 Apr 2014 #3
Take a guess. Enthusiast Apr 2014 #5
Carlyle Group Hires Former Obama FCC Chief Ichingcarpenter Apr 2014 #7
Deeply disturbing. Enthusiast Apr 2014 #8
.... Duppers Apr 2014 #10
Wheeler seems to have had no idea the volcanic reaction this would cause Ex Lurker Apr 2014 #4
This will hurts us.......... n/t bobGandolf Apr 2014 #6
That's an understatement. Enthusiast Apr 2014 #9
You got it! bobGandolf Apr 2014 #11
The net has been the greatest force for knowlege and peace and progress in history... Demo_Chris Apr 2014 #12

defacto7

(13,485 posts)
1. I knew it was too good to last.
Sat Apr 26, 2014, 03:55 AM
Apr 2014

But I had hopes back in the 90s and I'm actually surprised it has lasted this long.

It's time for private Internet hubs that can access any Internet source and pass it among those with proper devices. A circumventing Over-net you might call it. Why? because the changes now to a free and open Internet won't stop with this ruling. When the owners of us all call in our connections to the rest of the world, we obey.... or do we?

Ichingcarpenter

(36,988 posts)
7. Carlyle Group Hires Former Obama FCC Chief
Sat Apr 26, 2014, 05:43 AM
Apr 2014

Mr. Genachowski, who will be based in Washington, D.C., where Carlyle has headquarters, will focus on investments in technology, media and telecommunications, including Internet and mobile. He started at the firm on Monday.


http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB10001424052702304617404579304192986176498


The Bush Crime family's favorite business.

Ex Lurker

(3,813 posts)
4. Wheeler seems to have had no idea the volcanic reaction this would cause
Sat Apr 26, 2014, 04:27 AM
Apr 2014

and seems to have been taken aback by it. Let's maintain the initiative and derail this things.

Enthusiast

(50,983 posts)
9. That's an understatement.
Sat Apr 26, 2014, 06:11 AM
Apr 2014

Hurting us seems to be the objective of every corporate and government entity. Apparently regular people are the new enemy.

 

Demo_Chris

(6,234 posts)
12. The net has been the greatest force for knowlege and peace and progress in history...
Sun Apr 27, 2014, 07:20 AM
Apr 2014

Nothing else has even come close. Thanks to the web you are never more than thirty seconds away from information. And not just some information, but basically all of it. Thanks to the web we can fact check politicians and religious leaders and we can talk to people all over the world without hopping on a plane or getting permission first. We know Bush lied thanks to the internet. We are not at war with Iran and Syria thanks to the net. The idea of a hot or cold war with Russia is laughable thanks to the net. Atheism is exploding across the world, including here in America, all thanks and praise to the web.

It is the single most important tool in history, and they want to kill it.

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