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Purveyor

(29,876 posts)
Sat Apr 26, 2014, 07:26 PM Apr 2014

‘Junta Government In Kiev Trigger For Amine That Will Explode Sooner Or Later’

Published time: April 26, 2014 20:02

The combination of the polices of the government in Kiev and Washington blaming Russia for events is pushing the situation in Ukraine to a critical mass which threaten peace in Europe Willie Wimmer, former Vice President of the OSCE, tells RT.

RT: As it stands at the moment, America seems to think the more Russia is punished here, the more sorted the situation will be, do you agree with that?

Willie Wimmer: I think the situation is totally complicated and everything we know perhaps goes back to the Cuban crisis some decades ago.

RT: In that the Cold War continues?

WW: I think it’s even more complicated. It’s not only a Cold War it can be outstanding and dangerous and when we go back to the Cuban crisis, we know that big powers usually draw a red line and for the Americans it had been 90 km away from Miami there shouldn’t be a Soviet nuclear arsenal. And here in the Ukraine, it’s again similar. The Russian Federation draws a red line and they are not interested in having a country direct in their neighborhood who might change itself into a living danger, like a land mine, like a nuclear arsenal, which is located next to my own border. And therefore I think we face a critical situation in the next few weeks, perhaps even the next days and we only can hope that somebody might intervene in a sympathetic way and not create war in Europe.

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http://rt.com/op-edge/155112-washington-policy-europe-ukraine/

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‘Junta Government In Kiev Trigger For Amine That Will Explode Sooner Or Later’ (Original Post) Purveyor Apr 2014 OP
Junta Government? Duckhunter935 Apr 2014 #1
Elected after Svoboda and Right Sector threatened the opposition with violence to them newthinking Apr 2014 #2
was there an election after 2012 Duckhunter935 Apr 2014 #3
Yanukovich was not popular, but that is not how a parliment works, unless you are under duress newthinking Apr 2014 #4
The word is used by the former Vice President of the OSCE jakeXT Apr 2014 #5
bump... nt Jesus Malverde Apr 2014 #6
 

Duckhunter935

(16,974 posts)
1. Junta Government?
Sat Apr 26, 2014, 07:36 PM
Apr 2014

RT, I understand
I guess the elected parliament in Kiev does not matter as much as the unelected people who have used violence to overtake parts of the east. In less than a month new elections will happen and I am sure the east will cry foul whatever the outcome. It would be nice if those nice unelected people in the east would release the hostages they are now holding.

newthinking

(3,982 posts)
2. Elected after Svoboda and Right Sector threatened the opposition with violence to them
Sat Apr 26, 2014, 11:36 PM
Apr 2014

and their families. I would not exactly call that a true vote. Why in the world would politicians who had been opposing these parties for 10 years all of a sudden want to bring them to power? Right....

Here is one of those meeting that were caught on tape. Right sector thugs interrupt a local government meeting to let everyone know who is in control and tell the person conducting the meeting to step down, while their cohorts stand around them with threatening weapons.

There is no "clean" group right now in the west or the east. Violence begets violence. Tactics beget tactics. Everybody becomes fearful of each other and you get civil war.



Here is another



 

Duckhunter935

(16,974 posts)
3. was there an election after 2012
Sun Apr 27, 2014, 12:33 AM
Apr 2014

except for the five?

His own party disavowed him

Disavowal by party

Yanukovych was disowned by the Party of Regions. In a statement issued by Oleksandr Yefremov, parliamentary faction leader, the party and its members "strongly condemn[ed] the criminal orders that led to human victims, an empty state treasury, huge debts, shame before the eyes of the Ukrainian people and the entire world


And the Right Sector had less than 10% compared to his party having 41% in the Rada. 328 voted to remove him from power.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Ukrainian_elections#cite_note-UWre5913-8

newthinking

(3,982 posts)
4. Yanukovich was not popular, but that is not how a parliment works, unless you are under duress
Sun Apr 27, 2014, 03:19 AM
Apr 2014

Yes I used the wrong term.

Right Sector had *NO* seats. They met and formed in Maidan. You are thinking of Svoboda (another Neo Nazi Group).

There is no way with the history of these oppositional parties that they would not have fought for a more balanced interim government. It is clear that they were intimidated. They had to walk through armed right sector thugs to even get into Parliament that day.


Here is one of Svoboda, who is basically in charge of "media freedom". Svoboda and Right Sector leaders run Internal Security and Defense for the country. A svoboda Leader is the countries Attorney General. What does that say?

Here is how Svoboda keeps order in the media. The one who bats the TV manager around is in Parliment as is one other of the four. Nice guys eh?

It's a real eye opener when you actually investigate and learn that there really is truth in the claims being battered around about the new administration.



Some liberal/progressive sites where you can get the scoop: Counterpunch, Commondreams.org, OpEdNews, The Nation, New Statesmen, Democracy Now. Antiwar.com, dissidentvoice.org, etc. Search them for Ukraine.
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