Creepy or cute? Chinese man Photoshops himself into girlfriend’s childhood photos

[The Straight Story]

AS ROMANTIC gestures go, this is certainly ... something.

A young man over in China has marked the fourth anniversary of his relationship by Photoshopping himself into the childhood pictures of his girlfriend. He posted the altered images on Weibo, the Chinese microblogging site.

“I want to send my love letter to little you, but without a time machine, the only thing I can do is come into your dream to meet you,” the man, whose surname is Wan, said.

“I was unable to meet you when you were little, but I can come to your childhood and play with you.”



http://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/relationships/creepy-or-cute-chinese-man-photoshops-himself-into-girlfriends-childhood-photos/story-fnet09p2-1226899717581

[TeeYiYi]

1. Creepy. ..nt

TYY

[marble falls]

2. Very creepy.

[joshcryer]

3. It would be cute if he used his own childhood photos.

But yeah, this is creepy.

[winter is coming]

5. +1. n/t

[Tuesday Afternoon]

21. +2

[JI7]

37. that's what i thought he did based on subject line

but yes, this is creepy

[JoePhilly]

54. My first thought too.

A long time ago I had a girlfriend and she gave me a picture of her when she was 5, And I gave her one of me, the same age.

We each carried them. Very cute.

[MADem]

56. EXACTLY!

Two little kids playing together? Adorable.

An adult male mewling at a young girl? EWWW--UGH-ICK!

[alp227]

4. Wan, as a Chinese-American I'd like you to stop re-enforcing

this "socially awkward Asian" stereotype. PLEASE!

[JI7]

49. this doesn't fit that stereotype

the socially awkward asian stereotype is usually someone who comes off kind of nerdy ,shy, nervous .

this guy is just creepy.

[Nanjing to Seoul]

6. Oh, this does not surprise me at all. The sense of entitlement and narcissism that men in China

have is unsurpassed. I deal with them everyday. I could give you stories you would not believe and would call me a racist.

Seven years in China. . .this doesn't shock me at all knowing what I know.

[davidpdx]

7. You can send some of the stories to me

You know I've lived in both China and Korea. I don't think it's near as bad here. I have seen some creepy things, no doubt about it. The one creepy story I have about Korea actually was an experience with a female neighbor and I listened to my intuition and did the right thing by first getting my landlord and then he called the police.

[Nanjing to Seoul]

8. I'll give one.

Taking a leak in the bathroom while two men look over the stall at my junk, comment in Chinese about the "foreigner's size" and then one asking the other if his wife could withstand me.

My response, in Chinese, was "I don't know. She had no problems last night." They got angry. Apparently, being stereotypical, narrow minded and racist is okay. . .but responding to it and shaming them makes me a "typical rude foreigner."

[davidpdx]

9. I think anyone that comments on the size of a stranger's genitals in a bathroom

should have their selves evaluated. Then on top of that they have the nerve to talk about it in front of you and assume you don't know any Chinese.

Calling them on it was exactly the right thing to do. I've called Koreans out for doing things much less rude than that.

[Nanjing to Seoul]

10. Here's another: The Standard Seven and Sa Jiao

The standard seven are the seven questions all Chinese people ask foreigners. There are three others, but not asked as frequently, but every often.

1: Do you like China?
2: Do you like Chinese food?
3: Do you like Chinese girls?
4: Do you have a girlfriend?
5: Why did you come to China?
6: How many characters do you know?
7: Do you want a Chinese girlfriend/wife?

It used to be cute, but now, I'll give my standard "go the fuck away" answers.

1: No
2: No
3: Only for sex
4: No, I want sex
5: To have sex
6: None. I speak a real language
7: No, I just want sex

The other three are as follows:

1: Is it true foreigners are bigger than Chinese men?
2: How much money do you make?
3: Can you teach me English for free? My English is poor.

Which leads to the story. Sa Jiao (撒娇 in Chinese means "coy childishness" and girls here do it because Chinese men think it's cute. Basically, if a Chinese man says no to something a girl wants, she will pout, cry, whine and bitch until the man smiles and says "don't worry honey, I won't pay the rent this month so you can have another pair of shoes." Then she will smile, hug him and say "now I know you love me," while the man starves to death subsidizing her greed. In the US, it's called gold digging.

So anyway, I meet a girl through a friend and she instantly tells me we're friends, which is news to me. Because we're friends, and this is China, I need to show my friendship by buying her something. I said no. She starts whining how stingy and miserly I am. I say "if I buy you something, you give me sex." She gets angry, then calms down and says "well, how about being my English teacher?"

"Sorry, I don't teach Oral English. I have an education."

"But my English is poor."

"Then you should have studied your English better for Gaokao because my fee is 500RMB an hour or sex." That's what I normal say because I don't teach english and don't want to teach it.

She goes INSANE!!! I'm a typical foreigner. China doesn't want people like me. Chinese people hate me. You'll never find a Chinese girl. I tell her I'm married to a Chinese girl. She calls my wife a dinosaur (really ugly girl).

The kicker. . .five minutes earlier, I was her "friend."

[davidpdx]

11. So to sum it up it's called

"What can I use you for?"

The questions I get from Koreans are no where near as bad as that.

The typical questions are:

1) How long have you been in Korea?
2) Do you like Korean food?
3) Can you speak Korean?
4) What is your blood type? (don't hear that one as much as I use to, but it drove me nuts)
5) Are you married?
6) Do you have children? If so, why do you not have children?
7) If you are single: Why are you not married?

I do find questions like that to be invasive unless I know the person well. Since I teach English I will usually cover #1 and #5 at the beginning of the term and #2, 3, and 6 are likely to come up.

The blood type question I like to joke about because I was told by someone when I first got to Korea that if your blood type is AB you are crazy. So I had an activity at the beginning of the term that had the question "Do you believe that your blood type or star sign can describe your personality?" Most said no. So I turn the joke around on them and ask them their blood type and repeat what I was told and ask them if they think that's true. It generally gets them laughing, not so much if they are AB blood type though.

[Jesus Malverde]

59. Japan is the same about blood type.

One type, I think A, is good for being a salaryman. Having B makes you a bit of a wild man.

Not sure if it's popular in Korea or China but I get many comments about how well I use hashi (Chop sticks). More amusing than annoying.

[nadinbrzezinski]

19. You just explained gold diggers in online games believe it or not

thanks.

[CreekDog]

25. DU isn't here for you to use to stereotype an entire culture

can you not use it this way? there are racist websites that you can join that are explicitly for that purpose.

and I have to say, the way you talk, I shudder at the thought that they think that you represent American culture.

[The Straight Story]

31. Why not? We stereotype gun owners, straight white men, christians, muslims, etc

We often here say things about entire groups of people based on less than one percent of those people.

Seems like it a legit method of discussion and easily accepted/appreciated here by many.

[CreekDog]

32. then is that why you posted the OP? because you encourage the stereotyping?

oy.

[The Straight Story]

36. No, cause I thought it was interesting. Wasn't interested in if the person was a white male

chinese, or even a man for that matter.

I try to see stories based on the story. Someone else brought all of the rest into it.

And I don't see the article as stereotyping anyone but maybe some people with too much time on their hands who are a little creepy and have gimp/photoshop.

Although if he had been a straight white male I am betting this discussion would have been how we are all like that to some extent/etc (see previous threads about that group).

[MineralMan]

41. You're aware that the poster wasn't replying to your

OP, right?

[The Straight Story]

42. I don't care if they were replying to jeebus on a unicorn

If we decry the whole idea of stereotyping and bias and condemn it here one would think people would be consistent and decry it whenever they see it.

Unless said persons actually like using bias/etc when it is for their cause, and thus it is a right and just tactic to use.

The core value/tactic are the same. Just because someone calls themselves a liberal does not make it suddenly ok to use it.

[CreekDog]

61. why are you defending them?

they are posters in your thread, derailing it even.

why would you defend them when they do that?

either you agree with them or for some reason, you want the stereotype that they are peddling to be spread in the way that they are doing.

and why if you think it's wrong to do that to a white person are you saying that it's right to do it to an Asian person or Asian people?

i don't get why you'd defend those posts and posters when they derailed your thread on another topic. are they friends or something?

do you have the same beliefs about Asians as they do?

[The Straight Story]

67. Not defending the person here, not about them.

Simply pointing out that the tactic people are accusing him/her of using is one used by others here yet not often is it complained about.

People use stereotypes here a lot to promote fear/hatred/ignorance of others not like them as I said earlier.

Maybe some of those most upset also use the same tactic of using the few to judge the many. They just think it is justified when it is them doing it.

Let's say poster x hates and fears people who own guns. Based on stats less than a percent of that group is like Y but some here will use those who are in Y to emotionally charge their arguments and try to paint all X as Y.

The person in question in this thread is using their available information in a similar way. If it is wrong here, it is wrong elsewhere.

It isn't about Asians, this poster, or even this OP - what is being discussed in this subthread and pointed out is the tactic and it's accepted use here on DU.

[Nanjing to Seoul]

51. Again, you have no idea what you're talking about. But thanks for playing

When you live in Asia as long as I have, you can talk. Your experiences will be enlightening.

Until then, you have no idea what you're talking about.

And I even said in my OP that I have so many stories that people would accuse me of being racist. . .those who have lived in Asia will usually laugh and say "yes, I've seen and experienced that too."

Those who never have will accuse me of racism, as I said would happen.

[CreekDog]

52. I don't care where you live, it's what you do on here that I care about

and using this as your platform to stereotype your current countrymen and women is not what DU is for.

but i'm sure they'd appreciate the stereotypes at websites where progressive ideas aren't welcomed.

because on those websites, not this one, they like to think of all people of certain races, ethnicities, and/or nationalities as all being "this way" or "like that" or "like this". yes, based on inherent characteristics, like where they were born or what their race is, etc.

DU is not one of the places that considers people all a certain way because they were born in China or elsewhere.

so yeah, you using DU as a platform to complain about Asian men and women, and complain about them in broad brush, stereotypical ways is 100% inappropriate not just for DU but for a liberal website and for a liberal (if you consider yourself one, perhaps give that some thought).

for some reason, rather than being a website for liberals and their shared values, you seem to think this is a place for your rants about how other countries are inferior or tiresome, or tedious to you and to mock them on that basis.

i don't know why you'd think that an entire liberal, political website was set up so you can make fun of Chinese men and women, but it wasn't from actually paying attention to this place or its plainly stated purpose.

[liberalhistorian]

62. Oh, please.

As someone else here says, DU blanket generalizes whole groups based on a small percentage all the time. But it's okay to do that if such groups are not considered "enlightened" enough. As a Christian, I've seen that wholesale generalizing and stereotyping applied to my religion relentlessly here, and based on only one crazy wing of it. There are several other groups where they do the same thing and I've never seen you complain about it.

[CreekDog]

63. let's see an example of that happening where nobody disagreed with what was said

come on.

[liberalhistorian]

64. Pick any thread at all dealing with Christianity

unless the religious group is saying something they totally agree with and you'll see exactly what I'm talking about. "Christofascist" is a common epithet around here.

[CreekDog]

65. let's see a link

[Skip Intro]

73. You're wasting your time with that one.

He's only here to attack other DUers and disrupt threads.

Long, long track record of that.

Facts, reason, logic - they don't matter at all.

Save yourself the trouble.

[CreekDog]

78. you're saying those posters are saying "facts" about Asians? About Chinese men and women?

i didn't know that you thought racial stereotypes were "facts".

but now the Trayvon Martin posts are making sense.

oh and the anger that "Obama played the race card". and the anger when Ron Paul got called a racist for his racist newsletters.

if i were smarter i could almost detect a pattern there.

but i'm just not that smart, so i got nothing. sorry to trouble you.

[Skip Intro]

83. Faded META stars are so sad. n/t

[NCTraveler]

96. You have made it onto d o double g's excel spreadsheet.

Wear it as a badge of honor.

[Skip Intro]

72. Says CreekDog, a regular basher of the South. n/t

[CreekDog]

74. false. i have not bashed the South.

but if the first problem you saw in this thread was not the Asian stereotypes, but my criticism of them, then that shows what truly bothers you and what does not.

i bother you, the stereotypes do not.

[Skip Intro]

79. You're doing your usual schtick, and as ususal, nobody's buyin'.

Your trade here is to accuse other DUers of things, mostly racism. In other words, attack. No facts to back you up. Facts don't matter. Because your ultimate goal isn't discussion, it's disruption. You think I'm the only one that notices?

[CreekDog]

82. No, you accused me of bashing the South and now you're running from it

you're running from it like it's chasing you.

[Skip Intro]

84. .

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=4888481

[CreekDog]

85. ah, so you don't have proof of South bashing you accused me of

i appreciate the retraction.

i've asked before, but you've never provided.

[CreekDog]

76. hmm, what happened to your self deleted post?

did you say something regrettable?

[Skip Intro]

81. Something I decided to save for later.

[CreekDog]

90. the poster you were defending just got flagged for review

maybe you should choose whom to defend more wisely next time.

http://election.democraticunderground.com/?com=profile&uid=285954&sub=trans

[The Straight Story]

91. Maybe some people defend based on content of a post and not personalities (nt)

[CreekDog]

93. you keep defending his posting of Asian stereotypes

i don't know why you keep doing that.

[The Straight Story]

94. I was replying to you about you

And your assertion that posters on DU should not defend posts made by someone who is (but wasn't then) flagged for review.

If you care to defend that position as a worthwhile one then fine. If you wish to deflect to an earlier discussion in the thread see my replies there.

[CreekDog]

95. i made no such assertion

read it again.

you seem to be much more interested in critiquing my posts against racial stereotyping than the actual stereotyping.

nice priorities.

[Skip Intro]

98. +100. Hard concept for some. Well, a few. Well, a very few. n/t

[Skip Intro]

97. Is that an offical warning from a GD host and MIRT member? Is that a threat?

Are you threatening me?

[CreekDog]

99. no and no

It's info available to all members.

And no, this isn't MIRT speaking, it's me to you. Equals here making a valid criticism of what you said about me, in fact a fairer and truer one than you've been throwing at me recently.

[CreekDog]

104. are you threatening me?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=4888466

sounds like it.

[Skip Intro]

105. I've got no power here.

I'm not the GD host and MIRT member telling people they'd better choose their friends carefully. That's you.

But I do have a few words for you.

For two years you have chased me around this board, accusing me of all sorts of things, usually racism. You don't just do it to me. You do it to many here. There's even a thread (not mine) in ATA about you and your game. If you google "CreekDog" and "stalking" you get a better picture. So you're exposed, plain as day, like a naked person walking down the street giving orders to others from your imaginary throne.

I tried to rebut you, assuming a sense of fairness and an appreciation of reality on your part, only to be led down a pointless road of bullshit. Repeatedly. I've seen others suffer the same fate. I've complained to the admin, as others have. Seems that freedom of speech and appreciation of different views somehow enables you to be the lying and disrupting force that you are, dealing seemingly only in deception and attack. So I've decided I'd give you back what you give out (except that I'm truthful). Fight fire with fire, so to speak. You are the problem here, not me. And I won't miss a chance to illuminate that fact. So funny to see you react defensively, from your gutter, hands full of mud ready to sling.

Seems you can dish it out but cannot take it.

[CreekDog]

106. i'm not a GD host and i never said anything about your friendships

apparently you're confused.

however, you deleted something posted to me that you are "decided to save for later".

[Skip Intro]

107. You were a GD host. And you are a MIRT member. And you are telling me to

choose who I "defend" more carefully. Like Ari Fleischer saying to the American people that we should watch what we say. Fuck that.

[CreekDog]

108. ah, now I'm like Ari Fleishcher

and you threatened me. not only that, you screencapped something I wrote 5 years ago about a Darwin award but you post it out of context to say that I was laughing at a dead teenager.

and you're lecturing me here.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=4856724

by the way, what's up with the PUMA?

voting for Hillary this time around? well, that would be surprising given your Benghazi posts.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=252024

[Skip Intro]

109. All true, CreekDog. Don't blame me for your record. n/t

[CreekDog]

110. No. I don't know why you keep accusing me of things

by the way, Rand Paul or a Democrat?

what do you think?

[MineralMan]

29. I don't know, but your stories seem offensive to me.

It sounds like you'd rather be somewhere else than where you are. If those are really your responses to some pretty common questions, I wonder how well you do in whatever you are doing there.

It sounds like you don't like Chinese people or customs very much, and I'm sure they get that idea from you, too.

Ugh. Here's how I'd answer your seven questions:

1: Do you like China?
2: Do you like Chinese food?
3: Do you like Chinese girls?
4: Do you have a girlfriend?
5: Why did you come to China?
6: How many characters do you know?
7: Do you want a Chinese girlfriend/wife?

1. I find it beautiful and interesting. It is very different from my homeland.
2. I like much of it, but find some dishes unfamiliar to my taste.
3. I appreciate and respect all women, including Chinese women.
4. I do. She is very lovely.
5. My work brings me to China.
6. Not as many as I would like to know. I am still learning.
8. I want a girlfriend/wife, but am still seeking the right one.

The other three:

1: Is it true foreigners are bigger than Chinese men?
2: How much money do you make?
3: Can you teach me English for free? My English is poor.

1. I do not know. I have not seen so many of either.
2. Less than I wish to make.
3. I am afraid I cannot. I am too busy with my work.

[foo_bar]

44. thanks, Goofus and Gallant writ large.

While Nanjing's generalizations might be insensitive, I always look forward to his insights so I mentally filter out any suggestion that his experience is somehow universal or even typical. (And yes, he doesn't sound like an agreeable dinner guest, but that's part of the charm. Who wants to read the Adventures of Gallant, brave utterer of solicitous blandishments?)

I don't have to read your answers to the survey to know they'll be sanctimonious and self-aggrandizing, so spare us the stock MM disclaimer ("Your opinions are your own. My opinions are also mine. We are both free to possess opinions. That is the nature of opinions. Some opinions are big, while others are small.&quot ... I'm sorry for this spontaneous outburst, and I'm sure you have your reasons for broadcasting these banal admonishments on the internet, and I am aware of the Ignore button (thanks for asking), but I feel like you need a virtual intervention before all of DU is sucked into an irreversibly clenched sphincter.

[MineralMan]

45. What a nice, long reply to my post to someone else.

Your quotation is not something that is a disclaimer of mine. Please don't make up words and attribute them to me. As for my reply to the poster, I though his post was offensive and told him so. You might have a different take on his post. If so, I suggest you address it directly to him.

I don't believe I know you, in the first place, but I thought I'd respond to your criticism of me. Now, I'll leave you to your infrequent musings on DU.

[foo_bar]

46. I don't think the attribution would be perceived as a direct quotation by an attentive DUer.

Although I confess that paraphrasing with quotation marks is an unwelcome vice. Your reply to someone else was posted in a rather visible public forum, and I was seized by the desire to respond using my own words without any intention of speaking on NtS's behalf, so our collective understanding of one another may vary, etc.

[MineralMan]

47. When you post something in quotation marks and then

attribute it to someone else, you are doing exactly that. I don't appreciate being misquoted, frankly.

I don't object to your replying to a post of mine in an open forum at all. I don't really see the point of it, but you're free to do as you please. It's DU.

But, please do not misquote me. You don't know me, and I don't know you. To presume to put words in my mouth is to presume too much. I'm perfectly capable of expressing myself in words of my own choice.

You seem to find offense in my disapproval of another DUers answers to some common questions put to him in China. I'm not sure why that is, since you didn't bother to talk about that in your reply to me. Instead, you went off on something else that wasn't on topic at all.

So, I'm not sure I understand your need to discuss me at all in a thread about something else. It's your post, of course, so you will post as you please.

[foo_bar]

48. I had hoped that the sardonic nature of the "quote" was self-evident

To compare and contrast with a direct quotation:

My experience and opinion are mine, alone. Others have their own.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1218&pid=112473

But I agree that placing quotation marks around hyperbolized-MM might be confusing to readers who aren't acquainted with your mannerisms. I don't think my intentions were deceitful, but I can empathize with your dismay at being "misquoted" (<- scare quotes, not a direct quote per se)

[Nanjing to Seoul]

50. Spoken like someone who has never lived in Asia.

Once you answer the standard seven, you get even more invasive questions that you are required to answer and if you don't, you're a typical rude lao wai.

When you live in Asia as long as I have, you'll understand.

[CreekDog]

55. you're derailing the thread with this nonsense

this place is not for your stereotyping.

can you either keep your complaints about Asians to yourself or post them somewhere nobody will see them?

why is it that you need tell this story over and over? it serves no obvious purpose except perhaps a self serving one to make yourself look better than an entire nation of people allowing you to stay in their country.

[Nanjing to Seoul]

57. A DUer who lives in Korea that I speak to asked me for my stories. I gave them

Honestly, my OP was that this photo shopping doesn't surprise me.

And I'm glad you think this way. Welcome to the Pit.

[CreekDog]

58. i don't care what you were or weren't asked

you are the one who decided to post the offensive, stereotyping BS.

and you are also the one who has chosen to leave it up rather than deleting the nonsense.

since you've spent multiple posts in this thread to get us to believe that all or most Asians are the way you've described, I can only hope they don't think that we here in the US act and think as narrowly and stereotypically as you do.

and don't absolve yourself of your posts. you own your posts. nobody forced you to write that stuff, nor think it. nobody forced you to share whatever was in your head at the moment you wrote them.

YOU did it. the other poster didn't make you do it. the other poster isn't responsible for your thoughts. you are.

and you not only made Americans look bad through your actions and stereotyping, you made DU look bad for the same reason.

but you claim you were just answering a question. please.

[davidpdx]

69. There are two issues

One was the list of questions and how he'd answer them, the second was the two stories.

I admit I'm partially to blame for asking him about the story. I'll take the hit on that one. I was curious about his experience in China as has he has much more than I did. In China I didn't get away from campus much so I was curious about someone else's point of view (it is worth noting that I broke my ankle before going to China which severely limited my movement for the first few months).

The list of questions isn't offensive, it is based one's experience of where they have lived. That being said, I disagree with him on how to answer those questions. I certainly wouldn't say something offensive, but instead would say "I'm sorry that's too personal".

The two stories were was again based on experience.

The first one in the bathroom, I wouldn't have replied in that way. I also wouldn't (in any culture) be comfortable with someone staring at my genitals.

The second one with the "friend" I can only relate in that as a foreigner in Korea, I have on a few occasions had someone come up to me to try to practice English. Again I disagree with him on the reaction. It has taken me a long time (way too long) to learn how to react to certain things and part of that has come with a deeper understanding of the culture and Confucianism.

As for him breaking any DU rules, I don't think he did. He was relaying an experience.

To say he shouldn't post this is a little Stalinesque of you. You have obviously made your objections and they've been heard. There is no need to be overbearing and a bully about it. You've made false accusations against people saying they "defending him" without as much as an apology. It must be nice to run around screaming fire and accusing people of being racists.

Finally let me be crystal clear, I love where I live and if I didn't I wouldn't have stayed here for as long as I have. Yes, sometimes I see the faults in Korean culture and they drive me nuts. That's not uncommon for expats. If you want to rant and piss and call me a racists, then I suggest to you that maybe you keep your opinion to yourself unless you PERSONALLY know me.

[Dorian Gray]

103. I've lived in Asia (Hong Kong)

and traveled extensively throughout China and asia. Your answers to commonly posed questions are rude. And while I have many interesting stories in Asia, I've also met many a character whilst living in the UK and the USA. I don't generally give combative answers to people engaging me in conversation.

[tarheelsunc]

60. Just would like to offer another perspective on this.

As someone who's been in and out of China for the past 3 years, I'd like to offer another perspective on this.

Here's how often I have heard each of these questions. 0 is never, 10 is every first conversation with someone.

1: Do you like China? 10
2: Do you like Chinese food? 9
3: Do you like Chinese girls? 7
4: Do you have a girlfriend? 6
5: Why did you come to China? 4
6: How many characters do you know? 2
7: Do you want a Chinese girlfriend/wife? 4

1: Is it true foreigners are bigger than Chinese men? 0
2: How much money do you make? 1
3: Can you teach me English for free? My English is poor. 8


Please, everyone, don't judge 1.4 billion people based on one man apparently interacting with a higher than normal percentage of shallow people. Chinese people in general are nowhere near as shallow as is being represented in this post, and they will treat you as friendly as you are willing to treat them. If you give sarcastic responses to everything they ask, then they're probably not going to give very pleasant responses, and you'll come away with a negative opinion. But what really bothers me the most about this post is the insinuation that all Chinese women are "gold diggers." Of course there are people who would be considered gold diggers in any culture, but this is not any more common in China than in other countries and probably even less so in fact. I know many Chinese women who work just as hard, if not harder, than their husbands. Just as an example, my wife is a Chinese woman who's been working for the whole 3 years since her graduation and she has never expected me to buy anything for her with money I've earned, and she refuses to spend over our means even if I encourage her to. Chinese women typically are very wise with money and do not wish to incur large debts, and they would prefer to save for the future than to make extravagant purchases. My mother-in-law shares the responsibility of supporting the family equally with my father-in-law, and their work involves a lot of manual labor. You would find this to be true in many family situations throughout China, especially if you set foot outside of the major cities. My wife and my mother-in-law are certainly not isolated cases, I know countless of other women who work just as hard or harder than their husbands to support the family, but the "gold diggers" are most definitely isolated cases.

[UtahLib]

66. Much more credible and unbiased observation. Thank you nt

[Nanjing to Seoul]

70. Response (meant respectfull)

1: Being in and out of China in hotels does not qualify. I've lived in second and their tier cities for seven years here. The most podunk the place, the more those standard seven happen.

2: I speak fluent mandarin, so the shock of that is amazing. When I didn't speak, I was told I needed to learn and was never taught. I taught myself to read, write and speak.

3: My wife is not a gold digger. . .but I've seen it, experienced it and dealt with it before I got married. To get married in China, you need to buy a house and a car because her family wants her to be taken to her new home in a car. . .and the man must pay for it all. Shanghai is one of the worst places for this.

4: Since I don't know where you are staying when you are here in China, you would not get this much, but again. . .I have not lived in first tier cities. Nanjing and Suzhou are second tier cities and Shijiazhuang was about as low on the totem pole you can get.

5: I am married to a Chinese girl (yes, girl. I made that mistake. A woman in China, as I have been yelled at, is old, fat and married. Even my wife calls herself a girl). The last part of what you say is correct. . .and she's a farm country girl from a small 村 called 李庄, outside of the 5th tier city of 丹阳 in Jiangsu.

6: When I first moved here, my answers were not sarcastic. But now, they are because the entitlement of answering comes with it. I asked you a question, foreigner. . .answer me!

7: I am a man in China. Foreign women get alot of sexism from men here too. Go onto echinacities.com and read the news articles and the comments on them. Your perspective might change.

8: http://www.echinacities.com/news/Wuhan-Woman-Puts-Grandson-Up-for-Sale-to-Save-Son http://www.echinacities.com/china-media/Beijing-Parents-Buy-Wildly-Expensive-Apartments-to-Send-Children-to-Good-Schools http://www.echinacities.com/news/Female-Hotel-Manager-Sleeps-with-Chengguan-to-Protect-Hotel-Billboard http://www.echinacities.com/expat-corner/Money-and-Affection-Understanding-the-Financial-Motives-Behind-Chinese-Relationships http://www.echinacities.com/news/Girl-Borrows-Money-to-Help-Boyfriend-Ends-Up-Prostituting-Herself-to-Pay-it-Off

Here are a few articles FROM China. Enjoy.

Again, meant respectfully. . .I don't know where you stay in China, but if it's a first tier, you might not get this much. I have worked to stay out of those places. So far, Suzhou is the only place where I have not gotten this much, but I also live, for the first time, in a the foreigner section of town (Suzhou Industrial Park 工业园区 . If I lived in 市区 or 新区, I might get the things I said.

[tarheelsunc]

86. Response (also meant respectfully)

1: Being in and out of China in hotels does not qualify. I've lived in second and their tier cities for seven years here. The most podunk the place, the more those standard seven happen.

I haven't, as you say, been in and out of hotels. I've lived with my wife in her apartment for months at a time, as well as staying with her parents for weeks at a time on multiple occasions.

2: I speak fluent mandarin, so the shock of that is amazing. When I didn't speak, I was told I needed to learn and was never taught. I taught myself to read, write and speak.

My Mandarin is far from fluent but I can get by. Some people feign amazement when I speak even a couple of words, some people are rightfully unimpressed. Our long term plans were not to live permanently in China so I didn't try as hard as I could have. It's a difficult language to learn, and I respect you for being able to speak it fluently.

3: My wife is not a gold digger. . .but I've seen it, experienced it and dealt with it before I got married. To get married in China, you need to buy a house and a car because her family wants her to be taken to her new home in a car. . .and the man must pay for it all. Shanghai is one of the worst places for this.

Those things are true in some or many cases, but they are not absolutes. As far as paying for the wedding, it is true in most cases the man pays for everything (unless the girl is significantly more wealthy than the man), but a lot of the costs are recovered through receiving hongbao from the guests.

4: Since I don't know where you are staying when you are here in China, you would not get this much, but again. . .I have not lived in first tier cities. Nanjing and Suzhou are second tier cities and Shijiazhuang was about as low on the totem pole you can get.

I spent most of my time in Ningde, a fairly small city in Fujian Province (I guess it's tier 4). Most people in China don't even know it, I have to tell them it's north of Fuzhou. I've also spent significant amounts of time in my wife's hometown, a very small place in Sichuan of just a few hundred people where everyone knows nearly everyone, about halfway between Chengdu and Chongqing, which requires from either city a 3.5 hour bus ride to the nearest county center and then a 30-45 minute bus ride to the town itself. We've also traveled together around a great deal of the eastern part of the country.

5: I am married to a Chinese girl (yes, girl. I made that mistake. A woman in China, as I have been yelled at, is old, fat and married. Even my wife calls herself a girl). The last part of what you say is correct. . .and she's a farm country girl from a small 村 called 李庄, outside of the 5th tier city of 丹阳 in Jiangsu.

You are right in calling your wife a girl. That's what I call mine when we are talking and I have to use either girl or woman. Remaining youthful is generally quite important in China for girls/women.

6: When I first moved here, my answers were not sarcastic. But now, they are because the entitlement of answering comes with it. I asked you a question, foreigner. . .answer me!

I've been mostly in situations where people haven't really spoke face to face with a foreigner before. There's a certain curiosity attached with that, and I understand it. I don't think I've encountered many situations where they would try to force a conversation if I wasn't in a mood to talk.

7: I am a man in China. Foreign women get alot of sexism from men here too. Go onto echinacities.com and read the news articles and the comments on them. Your perspective might change.

To be fair, women, whether local or foreign, seem to get a lot of sexism anywhere. It's true that many men in China have stereotypes they hold about foreign women that make the experience for foreign women much different than for foreign men. I imagine the same would be true almost anywhere.

8: http://www.echinacities.com/news/Wuhan-Woman-Puts-Grandson-Up-for-Sale-to-Save-Son http://www.echinacities.com/china-media/Beijing-Parents-Buy-Wildly-Expensive-Apartments-to-Send-Children-to-Good-Schools http://www.echinacities.com/news/Female-Hotel-Manager-Sleeps-with-Chengguan-to-Protect-Hotel-Billboard http://www.echinacities.com/expat-corner/Money-and-Affection-Understanding-the-Financial-Motives-Behind-Chinese-Relationships http://www.echinacities.com/news/Girl-Borrows-Money-to-Help-Boyfriend-Ends-Up-Prostituting-Herself-to-Pay-it-Off

Here are a few articles FROM China. Enjoy.

These kind of things happen everywhere, even in America (maybe not as extreme). But these are extreme stories, and they do not represent an entire people.

Again, meant respectfully. . .I don't know where you stay in China, but if it's a first tier, you might not get this much. I have worked to stay out of those places. So far, Suzhou is the only place where I have not gotten this much, but I also live, for the first time, in a the foreigner section of town (Suzhou Industrial Park 工业园区. If I lived in 市区 or 新区, I might get the things I said.

I stayed in Hong Kong for a significant amount of time, but I've never been to a first tier city other than for a couple days of sightseeing in each. As I said earlier in this post, the two places I've spent the most time are a tier 4 city and a small town of a few hundred people.

Thanks for replying, I enjoyed reading your message!

[Dorian Gray]

102. She sounds like a piece of work

but your responses are also off putting. They certainly don't elevate you above her behavior.

[FSogol]

12. No one saw the hit movie, "The Time Traveller's Wife" based on the best selling novel of the same

name? Somehow everyone didn't think it was creepy when Eric Bana went back in time to meet his adolescence wife.

[The Straight Story]

13. I actually never saw it myself. Sounds....weird :) (nt)

[Orrex]

15. Fucking creepy.

And she was a fool if she really spent her whole life waiting for him.

[FSogol]

18. I guess we just don't understand romance.

BTW, the Chinese guy's photos would have been more clever if he had photoshopped childhood photos of him with childhood photos of her.

[penultimate]

23. That was a creepy movie...

[mwdem]

14. The pic of him looking up her dress

is very creepy.

[redgreenandblue]

16. I have no idea since I don't have knowledge of China's culture.

Within the framework of American culture this is certainly creepy. It might actually not be creepy at all in the context of China's culture.

[Liberal_Dog]

17. It Is Definitely On The Creepy Side

Ewww...

[KittyWampus]

20. I was ambivalent until this photo:

[TDale313]

28. Ugg. Creepy seems a mild way of putting it.

[JI7]

38. yuk, gone beyond creepy to just fucking wrong

[Liberal_in_LA]

43. how did he not know that pic would be considered inappropriate

[penultimate]

22. heh... Sounds like something i would do with intent of being WTFish creepy

Which would done in jokingly manner... But in this guys case, it sounds as if he was trying to be sincere and sentimental. Like, he actually thought it was a cute idea. I find that to be creepy.

[City Lights]

24. Creepy.

Very, very creepy.

[Vashta Nerada]

26. Extremely creepy.

[Amaril]

27. Creepy

Definitely.

[Vincardog]

30. I vote CUTE. He is declaring his timeless love, his wish to rewind time to be able to spend more of

it with his eternal spiritual compliment. Some small minded people will see it as an attempt at retroactive child molestation, but they are wrong.

[Kaleva]

34. A grown man looking under the dress of a young girl?

[stevenleser]

35. I can see thinking about it for 3-5 seconds then dismissing it as a bad and creepy idea.

Unless you photoshop a picture of yourself at the same age? Nah, even then, too weird.

[Upton]

39. Cute..

as long as his girlfriend likes it, who gives a fuck?

[RedCappedBandit]

40. Nothing cute about a grown man looking up a little girl's skirt. wtf

[Initech]

53. Creepy beyond words!

[Nye Bevan]

68. Reminiscent of Woody Allen and Soon-Yi.

Except that he was really there during her childhood.

[Skip Intro]

75. More creepy than cute, and I don't see any racsim.

This is something a Chinese man did. An honest and innocent attempt at creatively showing affection. And it went viral.

Is it racist?

No, but you are for posting it.

Something real, and current, and topical, from a real news source, and you are a racist for posting it.

Yeah, I don't get it either.

This is in the running for the most jumping-the-shark moment this year.

[CreekDog]

80. you don't see any racism in the OP, how about the thread?

are Chinese women really all the way they were described by a couple male posters here?

are Asian men really all the way they were described by a couple male posters here?

you sure you don't see any racism or stereotyping? of course you don't.

[Sarah Ibarruri]

77. CREEPY!!! He didn't photoshop photos of himself as a CHILD, but as a grown up. Sicko!!! nt

[bettyellen]

87. I wish I could unsee those pics. Yikes. Creepy.

[Beausoir]

88. Not worth getting all worked up over. Get a life.

[The Straight Story]

89. Who is worked up over it?

[sakabatou]

92. Creepy

[OwnedByCats]

100. I didn't see too much wrong with it

until I saw the one where he's looking under her dress. If it was him as a child as well, I wouldn't have thought much of it.

I don't know, if it were my husband doing that ... I'd find that odd, at best lol

[Bosonic]

101. I'd give him a solid 9 out of 10 creepy rating