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How many jobs will be lost due to next gen cars, target date 2017? (Original Post) CK_John Apr 2014 OP
Perhaps lowering the Social Security to 50 might work yeoman6987 Apr 2014 #1
Not practical at all... the liability would be out of this world uponit7771 Apr 2014 #2
It's practical if ALL cars are driverless. NYC Liberal Apr 2014 #5
Liability is a legal concept. Jesus Malverde Apr 2014 #7
driverless cars LOL, you got about another 25-30 years before that takes hold snooper2 Apr 2014 #3
You don't appreciate how fast technology is iterating. Jesus Malverde Apr 2014 #6
mkay LOL.... snooper2 Apr 2014 #9
Having personally seen a driverless car in the wild. Jesus Malverde Apr 2014 #10
Driverless cars already exist Bjorn Against Apr 2014 #12
Between Free Trade and the technological revolution Jesus Malverde Apr 2014 #4
Maybe not driverless cars, but I think we are close to real electric cars rurallib Apr 2014 #8
They're here. GeorgeGist Apr 2014 #11
those still have the major drawbacks that are holding up EVs replacing rurallib Apr 2014 #15
Probably not ready for the Boston rotary yet FarCenter Apr 2014 #13
No fun... PasadenaTrudy Apr 2014 #14
 

yeoman6987

(14,449 posts)
1. Perhaps lowering the Social Security to 50 might work
Tue Apr 29, 2014, 11:02 AM
Apr 2014

However, I am so excited about this because it has the potential to save many lives and also keep people "mobile" into their advanced age. So many people have had to "stay home" because they were too old to be able to handle the driving. I love this so much. I hope it just gets better and better for older drivers especially. I am 45 so have a ways to go but I see so many in their 70's losing their licenses and then not being able to do anything (at least spare of the moment). This could change the lives of so many people.

NYC Liberal

(20,135 posts)
5. It's practical if ALL cars are driverless.
Tue Apr 29, 2014, 11:07 AM
Apr 2014

As long as you still have people driving alongside the driverless cars, though, you're right.

Jesus Malverde

(10,274 posts)
7. Liability is a legal concept.
Tue Apr 29, 2014, 11:15 AM
Apr 2014

Those concepts change in the face of money.

A U.S. Supreme Court decision has just given drug companies total liability protection for injuries and deaths caused by government mandated vaccines.


The federal vaccine injury compensation program is an example of how they will do it.

http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2011/03/22/betrayal-of-consumers-by-us-supreme-court-gives-total-liability-shield-to-big-pharma.aspx

Jesus Malverde

(10,274 posts)
6. You don't appreciate how fast technology is iterating.
Tue Apr 29, 2014, 11:11 AM
Apr 2014

In the absence of restrictions, the revolution is upon us.

Driverless cars are here today and on the road. Legal in some states. That they be rolled out on a mass scale is around the corner. There is huge incentive from business to make this so.

Driverless planes, freight transport and law enforcement presence are likely the first out the door.

 

snooper2

(30,151 posts)
9. mkay LOL....
Tue Apr 29, 2014, 11:22 AM
Apr 2014

I set a reminder in my Outlook calendar for 10 years from today to repost this thread and ping you to see where we are-

Just like when I was in a conference six years ago and one specific phone manufacturer was saying how every other desk in the country would have a video phone on it in five years LOL. I've got video phones for testing in the lab, we have a small number of VoIP customers who have a couple video phones, is it widespread...um, no...

Actually, we find that most people (especially older business workers), prefer not to show their face when communicating. Is there currently a niche market, yes, is the next generation who is stuck to fucking facebook 24/7 going to be more amicable, probably-

We will both be dead before you see 50+ percent of the vehicles be "driverless". Most people will not give up that kind of control to a computer.



Besides, I would have to turn that shit off all the time every time I wanted to have some fun in my truck

Jesus Malverde

(10,274 posts)
10. Having personally seen a driverless car in the wild.
Tue Apr 29, 2014, 11:26 AM
Apr 2014

I don't share your skepticism.

Its not going to be all cars, just certain cars that perform specific tasks. They will be on the road with you.

Bjorn Against

(12,041 posts)
12. Driverless cars already exist
Tue Apr 29, 2014, 11:32 AM
Apr 2014

Google already has test models of driverless cars on the roads in California and Nevada and have already put hundreds of thousands of miles on them. The technology already exists and it works, it is now just a matter of mass producing the technology and adjusting our laws to account for driverless cars. We won't be waiting 25 years for a technology that already exists.

Jesus Malverde

(10,274 posts)
4. Between Free Trade and the technological revolution
Tue Apr 29, 2014, 11:07 AM
Apr 2014

The american worker is screwed.

Social security for all will not help if there is no one putting money into the system.

At some point the bankers will see there are not enough people to service the debt and they will demand changes so the system continues.

Favelas coming to a town near you.

rurallib

(62,406 posts)
8. Maybe not driverless cars, but I think we are close to real electric cars
Tue Apr 29, 2014, 11:18 AM
Apr 2014

Think of all the repair shops and various other accessory shops and engine booster products etc. that will no longer be needed once the internal combustion engine goes away.
We have no way of knowing how soon a viable electric car may be on the market, nor how quickly it will be adopted, but when it does there will be tons of auto repair shops looking for work.

No radiators
No tune-ups
No antifreeze
No gas-stations power up at home. (This could be huge)
Still need tires, windshields and wipers, radios (maybe use smart phones?)
No mufflers / exhaust systems

rurallib

(62,406 posts)
15. those still have the major drawbacks that are holding up EVs replacing
Tue Apr 29, 2014, 03:26 PM
Apr 2014

internal combustion
- short range
- long recharge times, often using special hookups
- the large battery pack is a problem of sorts. Tesla is just handling the problem by creating charing stations.

But - boy oh boy, I believe they are close.

 

FarCenter

(19,429 posts)
13. Probably not ready for the Boston rotary yet
Tue Apr 29, 2014, 11:33 AM
Apr 2014
While the car knows to stop, just when to start again is still a challenge, partly because the cars are programmed to drive defensively. At a four-way stop, Google's cars have been known to wait in place as people driving in other directions edge out into the intersection — or roll through.


If they can't bluff other drivers at a 4-way stop, they are not ready for rotaries.

It's no coincidence that the guy that invented Ethernet's "carrier sense multiple access with collision detection" protocol had degrees from MIT and Harvard.

PasadenaTrudy

(3,998 posts)
14. No fun...
Tue Apr 29, 2014, 11:35 AM
Apr 2014

I love to drive, I don't want lose one of the joys in my life...

signed,
A female driving enthusiast

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