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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsNYT's Gail Collins: Of Fox and the Cattle
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/04/26/opinion/collins-of-fox-and-the-cattle.html?smid=fb-share&_r=2This was Bundys happy time. He was a star on Fox News, where his new friend Sean Hannity asked him probing questions like: How far are you willing to go? How far are you willing to take this? What would happen if they came in the early morning hours one day to your ranch? Bundys job was to say things like: Just come on! Well take you on! A careful listener might have deduced that this was not the sharpest hoof in the herd.
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But what about Bundys cause? You wouldnt have important politicians like Heller and the governor of Nevada and Senator Rand Paul expressing sympathy for people who pointed semiautomatic rifles at government agents unless there was something really serious at stake, right? Lets consider the actual issue, which was grazing fees. I know this is not something most of you grapple with on a day-to-day basis, but give me a second. Ranchers are supposed to pay $1.35 a month for every steer or cow and calf they graze on federal lands. Which doesnt come close to covering what its worth, or what it would cost if they were grazing on private land or state lands. It doesnt even cover the administration costs, said Debra Donahue, a professor of law at the University of Wyoming and an expert in public land use.
I had an extremely interesting telephone discussion with Donahue, who believes that there shouldnt be any cattle on federal lands, because the cows ruin the fragile soil and foul the water. The single most effective thing we could do to help Western lands adapt to climate change would be to take the cattle out, said Donahue. And, she added, the animals creating all these problems produce only about 2 percent of the nations beef.
This sounds like an important topic for further discussion. Lets demand congressional hearings! Also rallies! Unlike Bundys, theyd have to be gun-free. So they wouldnt be quite as dramatic, but we probably could get more actual people. And when cowboys want to know why the public wants to kick them off their subsidized grazing space, well say we got the idea from Sean Hannity.
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But what about Bundys cause? You wouldnt have important politicians like Heller and the governor of Nevada and Senator Rand Paul expressing sympathy for people who pointed semiautomatic rifles at government agents unless there was something really serious at stake, right? Lets consider the actual issue, which was grazing fees. I know this is not something most of you grapple with on a day-to-day basis, but give me a second. Ranchers are supposed to pay $1.35 a month for every steer or cow and calf they graze on federal lands. Which doesnt come close to covering what its worth, or what it would cost if they were grazing on private land or state lands. It doesnt even cover the administration costs, said Debra Donahue, a professor of law at the University of Wyoming and an expert in public land use.
I had an extremely interesting telephone discussion with Donahue, who believes that there shouldnt be any cattle on federal lands, because the cows ruin the fragile soil and foul the water. The single most effective thing we could do to help Western lands adapt to climate change would be to take the cattle out, said Donahue. And, she added, the animals creating all these problems produce only about 2 percent of the nations beef.
This sounds like an important topic for further discussion. Lets demand congressional hearings! Also rallies! Unlike Bundys, theyd have to be gun-free. So they wouldnt be quite as dramatic, but we probably could get more actual people. And when cowboys want to know why the public wants to kick them off their subsidized grazing space, well say we got the idea from Sean Hannity.
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NYT's Gail Collins: Of Fox and the Cattle (Original Post)
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Apr 2014
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(43,049 posts)1. I might as well take this moment to say...
Gail Collins is one of my favorite writers in the whole world. She might seem lightweight to some, but beneath the smiles is an incredible mind that makes just a little more sense on this insane planet.
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(135,828 posts)2. k&r...