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Jackpine Radical

(45,274 posts)
Wed Apr 30, 2014, 03:06 PM Apr 2014

It bears repeating--Why I oppose the Death Penalty:

This is an op-ed I published a few years ago when WI was talking about instituting a Death Penalty.

As an ex-field psychologist for the state Department of Corrections, I imagine I have met more murderers than the average citizen, and I have very little sympathy for them as a class of people. Why, then do I oppose the death penalty in Wisconsin? I assure you that my opposition to the death penalty has absolutely nothing to do with tender feelings for anyone who would deliberately kill others. Rather, I am very worried about the consequences of passing a death penalty on the state as a whole.

Four arguments are commonly made in opposition to the death penalty. Let me review them before moving on to the particular concerns I want to discuss. Here, then, are the traditional arguments:

First, we have no need for a death penalty to protect ourselves from murderers because Wisconsin law permits us to put them in prison for life without hope of ever being released.

Second, it is expensive to seek the death penalty. Studies in other states have shown that it costs more to sentence a murderer to death and then wade through the appeals process than it would have to simply imprison the criminal for life.

Third, there is always the possibility of executing an innocent person. Some people seem to think that the use of DNA evidence is an absolutely certain means of avoiding such errors, but that is simply not so. Any number of events, ranging from misbehavior on the part of police officers to errors at the crime lab, could bring about terrible miscarriages of justice.

And fourth, there is no evidence that the death penalty deters crime. Just consider for a moment—can you imagine criminals thinking to themselves, “I want to go on a killing spree, but they will put me to death if they catch me, so I won’t do it. However, I would go out and murder a bunch of people if all I had to face was life without parole.”

If you think the death penalty is somehow going to make you safer, how do you explain this?—Murder rates per 100,000 population range from a low of 1.2 in Maine to a high of 13.0 in Louisiana. Twelve states, including Wisconsin, have no death penalty. The average murder rate for these states is 2.90. The remaining 38 states have the death penalty. Their murder rate per hundred thousand residents is 5.3. The probability of this being a chance result is less than one in a hundred.

At 3.3 murders per 100,000, Wisconsin has a slightly higher murder rate than the average for states without the death penalty, but considerably lower than the average for states with the death penalty. Why, then, should we be in any hurry to legalize the death penalty and thereby join the group of states with the higher murder rates?

Another question—Might there be something about having a death penalty that causes states to have a higher murder rate? As a psychologist, I think there may be a connection. Let us make no bones about it. To approve the death penalty is to assert that it is permissible for a large number of people—the state—to gang up and put one of its members to death. When a state authorizes executions, it is in effect saying that killing is not only permissible, but is in fact desirable, in some circumstances, including circumstances that do not involve immediate self-defense. Children learn both behaviors and attitudes by the example of their elders. From what we know of child development, there is every reason to imagine that children who grow up in a society that approves the killing of human beings will have lower inhibitions against killing than do children whose society teaches an absolute intolerance of killing.

Wisconsin has never executed a criminal since attaining statehood in 1848, and explicitly forbade the practice in 1853. This is a proud tradition that I believe to be worth keeping.

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It bears repeating--Why I oppose the Death Penalty: (Original Post) Jackpine Radical Apr 2014 OP
Whoever fights monsters should see to it that in the process he does not become a monster. Tierra_y_Libertad Apr 2014 #1
Wenn du lange in einen Abgrund blickst, blickt der Abgrund auch in dich henein. Jackpine Radical Apr 2014 #2
Its too easy for the ones who deserve it madokie Apr 2014 #3
All good arguments, K&R (nt) Nye Bevan Apr 2014 #4
K & R mountain grammy Apr 2014 #5
I oppose the death penalty because it's barbaric. leftyladyfrommo Apr 2014 #6
Excellent. Jefferson23 Apr 2014 #7
The idea that innocent people have been barbarically executed is haunting. alphafemale Apr 2014 #8
You know doubt know the wingnut response to that-- Jackpine Radical Apr 2014 #9
K&R Scuba May 2014 #10
 

Tierra_y_Libertad

(50,414 posts)
1. Whoever fights monsters should see to it that in the process he does not become a monster.
Wed Apr 30, 2014, 03:13 PM
Apr 2014
Whoever fights monsters should see to it that in the process he does not become a monster. And if you gaze long enough into an abyss, the abyss will gaze back into you. Friedrich Nietzsche

Jackpine Radical

(45,274 posts)
2. Wenn du lange in einen Abgrund blickst, blickt der Abgrund auch in dich henein.
Wed Apr 30, 2014, 03:20 PM
Apr 2014

Vielleicht habe ich zu lange in den Agrund geblickt.

madokie

(51,076 posts)
3. Its too easy for the ones who deserve it
Wed Apr 30, 2014, 03:33 PM
Apr 2014

to find Jesus and be looking forward to the streets of gold and all that stuff. I agree with you Jack, I oppose the death penalty
Not just because of the people who are innocent who are put to death which is enough reason in itself but for the reason I stated.

Jefferson23

(30,099 posts)
7. Excellent.
Wed Apr 30, 2014, 05:40 PM
Apr 2014

It is unethical to execute people for any crime, period....I do not understand what
many Americans find difficult about that concept.

 

alphafemale

(18,497 posts)
8. The idea that innocent people have been barbarically executed is haunting.
Wed Apr 30, 2014, 06:58 PM
Apr 2014

If people have been found innocent after having years of their life stolen from them.

Then you know damn well that people have had their very lives stolen from them.

You can set a prisoner free. You can't give a life back.

Jackpine Radical

(45,274 posts)
9. You know doubt know the wingnut response to that--
Wed Apr 30, 2014, 07:04 PM
Apr 2014

"Well, it's mostly only used on black people, and if they were wrongfully convicted of one crime, you can be pretty sure they got away with something else at least as bad, so they most likely deserve it anyway."

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