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applegrove

(118,617 posts)
Wed Apr 30, 2014, 04:12 PM Apr 2014

"Paul Ryan Won't Let Poor People Testify At Hearing About Poverty"

Paul Ryan Won't Let Poor People Testify At Hearing About Poverty

by Bryce Covert at Think Progress

http://thinkprogress.org/economy/2014/04/30/3432697/paul-ryan-poverty-hearing-poor-people/

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On Wednesday, Rep. Paul Ryan (R-WI) will hold a hearing on poverty called “A Progress Report on the War on Poverty: Lessons from the Frontlines.” While it will feature three experts, none of them are actually low-income Americans who struggle to get by.

But that’s not for lack of trying from some poor people themselves. Witnesses to Hunger, an advocacy project that shares the stories of low-income Americans, has tried and failed twice to have some of their members who live in poverty speak at Ryan’s poverty hearings. “When Ryan had his first hearing last July,” Director Mariana Chilton told ThinkProgress, “we wrote to his office to see if we could testify, but they weren’t interested.” While Rep. Barbara Lee (D-CA) tried to get one of their low-income members to speak, it was too late. They were asked to submit written testimony instead.

Chilton’s organization stayed in touch with his office and immediately called his press team when they saw the announcement for Wednesday’s hearing. “They said, ‘It’s too late, we’ve already chosen our people.’” There was one slot left to be filled by Democrats, but that went to Marian Wright Edelman, president of the Children’s Defense Fund. “I think Marian Wright Edelman is a great choice,” Chilton said. But “they had a stronger interest in having a more well-known person to testify.” That means that once again, the hearing won’t feature anyone who really is on the frontlines of poverty. “None of the people who are testifying today are currently living in poverty and it’s unclear if they really know what’s going on from the perspective of people living in it,” she said.

And the written testimonies they submitted will probably do little to impact the conversation. “They’re submitted and they disappear,” Chilton said. Tianna Gaines-Turner sent in a document last year, and this year Barbie Izquierdo has done the same. “If you look at the July hearing for the War on Poverty, you don’t see evidence of Tianna Gaines-Turner’s submitted testimony,” she added. It’s not on the website for the hearing, despite her requests to his office that they include the document, although it has been included on page 64 of the record. Izquierdo’s will probably meet the same fate. “Asking for formal written testimony is a way to let Paul Ryan’s office off the hook,” she said.


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"Paul Ryan Won't Let Poor People Testify At Hearing About Poverty" (Original Post) applegrove Apr 2014 OP
Well really, what do poor people know about poverty? SheilaT Apr 2014 #1
And what the hell do politicians know or understand about poverty? Auntie Bush Apr 2014 #5
exactly florida08 May 2014 #13
Paul Ryan is an overrated bigot Gothmog Apr 2014 #2
Dumb too... Helen Borg May 2014 #39
The 3 invited Witnesses are all ... GeorgeGist Apr 2014 #3
I think that they limited the testimony to three too shows that they didn't applegrove Apr 2014 #6
Paul Ryan is the biggest fraud in politics. n/t FSogol Apr 2014 #4
What do you mean?...he helps out washing clean pots at shelters LiberalLovinLug May 2014 #15
Washing clean dishes FSogol May 2014 #17
:D tofuandbeer May 2014 #18
Message auto-removed Name removed May 2014 #24
This conveys his true personality Generic Other May 2014 #34
Of course that little fascist sociopath won't let those speak who he is stomping on. Cha Apr 2014 #7
Well said. I'm so glad people know what to look for these days. For a while it seemed applegrove Apr 2014 #8
You're welcome, apple! Cha Apr 2014 #11
right you are. BlancheSplanchnik May 2014 #35
Paul Ryan is cool, he's wears his hat backwards. Kingofalldems Apr 2014 #9
I'm surprised he had a Tshirt on in that photo. applegrove Apr 2014 #10
So does Tony Romo... awoke_in_2003 May 2014 #12
...and listens to rap music, so he's down with us black folk! (oh, excuse me, 'inner city' folk) Liberal_Stalwart71 May 2014 #33
that's right! He knows a few bla people, you know!!!! BlancheSplanchnik May 2014 #36
Looks like he is trying to reach a pre-determined conclusion: Proud Liberal Dem May 2014 #14
Exactly. The whole thing is a set up. And emotion from an actual victim of poverty applegrove May 2014 #27
I mean, think how horrible it would be if it gets in the way of the GOP's plans Proud Liberal Dem May 2014 #31
How much longer is it going to take for Americans to realize these criminals posing as congressmen geretogo May 2014 #16
The boot on the neck is already stomping HangOnKids May 2014 #19
Exactly ! geretogo May 2014 #20
really. BlancheSplanchnik May 2014 #37
"We Have Already Chosen Our People" grilled onions May 2014 #21
they didn't let women testify in the women's reproductive health hearings either NightWatcher May 2014 #22
DC is a racket blkmusclmachine May 2014 #23
That is the basic problem, no one is willing to walk a mile in their shoes. These old, white Dustlawyer May 2014 #25
Like Women not testifying at conference on Women's Health Issues HockeyMom May 2014 #26
Or having Sean Hannity as the head of the RNC's African-American group Proud Liberal Dem May 2014 #32
In charge of shaping our history- sad lunasun May 2014 #28
Count on this TNNurse May 2014 #29
Compare Ryan's actions to Robert Kennedy's poverty tour dflprincess May 2014 #30
And those men ended up..... WinkyDink May 2014 #41
this sums up the problem of government noiretextatique May 2014 #38
And you think some other current politician would?! Ha! WinkyDink May 2014 #40
Its Too Difficult... cynzke May 2014 #42
There used to be hospitals JackInGreen May 2014 #43
 

SheilaT

(23,156 posts)
1. Well really, what do poor people know about poverty?
Wed Apr 30, 2014, 04:36 PM
Apr 2014

Anyone who thinks I'm being serious. . . I'm not.

I recall reading many years ago something John Kenneth Galbraith said, I think during the Great Depression. Can't quote it exactly, but it was something on the order of "Men who carry on about the dignity of work have never themselves done manual labor."

Auntie Bush

(17,528 posts)
5. And what the hell do politicians know or understand about poverty?
Wed Apr 30, 2014, 06:58 PM
Apr 2014

Absolutely nothing and they also have no compassion.

florida08

(4,106 posts)
13. exactly
Thu May 1, 2014, 10:57 AM
May 2014

Am really tired of the lip service they give saying government doesn't create jobs when

A current search of Defense Department contracts suggests that “Ryan Incorporated Central” has had at least 22 defense contracts with the federal government since 1996, including one from 1996 worth $5.6 million. …
http://thinkprogress.org/election/2012/08/14/688761/paul-ryans-family-business-built-on-government-contracts/

applegrove

(118,617 posts)
6. I think that they limited the testimony to three too shows that they didn't
Wed Apr 30, 2014, 07:04 PM
Apr 2014

want the most powerful first person narrative of what poverty is like given a national stage. To me the fact that they only have three witnesses says it all.

FSogol

(45,474 posts)
17. Washing clean dishes
Thu May 1, 2014, 12:13 PM
May 2014


Ryan thinks because he can fool some rubes in his hometown that he is qualified to fool all of the Country. If the M$M didn't prop him up as the only "smart one" of the tea bagging set, he'd be nothing more than a Dan Quayle-like punchline.


On edit: Ugh. Before my edit, the photo was too big exposing Ryan's chicken-like legs. He's even a fraud in gym.

Response to FSogol (Reply #17)

applegrove

(118,617 posts)
8. Well said. I'm so glad people know what to look for these days. For a while it seemed
Wed Apr 30, 2014, 11:52 PM
Apr 2014

like nobody thought sociopaths existed. Thanks Cha for writing how I really feel.

BlancheSplanchnik

(20,219 posts)
36. that's right! He knows a few bla people, you know!!!!
Fri May 2, 2014, 11:37 PM
May 2014

He remarks on their mastery of English!!! He knows that makes them feel good!!!!!!!! :superhappyface:



applegrove

(118,617 posts)
27. Exactly. The whole thing is a set up. And emotion from an actual victim of poverty
Thu May 1, 2014, 07:36 PM
May 2014

might get in the way of his pre-determined outcome.

Proud Liberal Dem

(24,406 posts)
31. I mean, think how horrible it would be if it gets in the way of the GOP's plans
Thu May 1, 2014, 09:56 PM
May 2014

to cut spending on anti-poverty programs so that the "job creators" can get more tax cuts? Ryan has essentially said that anti-poverty programs have been a "failure" and they're basically worthless, so, of course, the natural solution that he and his fellow Republicans have is to get rid of them. Don't want the possibility of having their scam exposed and/or one or two of them rediscovering their consciences, you know?

geretogo

(1,281 posts)
16. How much longer is it going to take for Americans to realize these criminals posing as congressmen
Thu May 1, 2014, 12:07 PM
May 2014

Last edited Thu May 1, 2014, 12:50 PM - Edit history (1)

are in fact die hard FASCISTS , haters of democracy , believe in Totalitarian rule, and have contempt
for the American people .

grilled onions

(1,957 posts)
21. "We Have Already Chosen Our People"
Thu May 1, 2014, 01:43 PM
May 2014

That is the way they think---they ARE the chosen people. Like lecturing to little kids--we know what's good for you. I would love to take away their limo,their cook,stocked pantry for one month. Add to that toss in a couple late utility bills, an outstanding medical bill,auto repair bill or two etc and see just how far they can go,talking tough about poverty. How many of them have ever had a rough budget ? They are useless. They have ears for little more than having a place to put their eyeglasses on because they never listen to anyone who doesn't belong to a similar country club. Let's face it they don't only give in a gated community--they also have gated minds----poor are not allowed not even to speak.

Dustlawyer

(10,495 posts)
25. That is the basic problem, no one is willing to walk a mile in their shoes. These old, white
Thu May 1, 2014, 04:45 PM
May 2014

politicians do not know what it means to be poor, or know anyone who is. That is why they rely on stereotypes as reality. It's the same with gays and non-Christians, they have no clue what those people are like and what reality is. I remember watching Mitt Romney eat his 1st fast food meal, he thought the packaging was really neat. He had no clue about it all all. We should not have people like Rmoney or Paul Ryan, people who are so out of touch with most of their constituents that they fail to appreciate the effect their policies will have on the people.

Proud Liberal Dem

(24,406 posts)
32. Or having Sean Hannity as the head of the RNC's African-American group
Thu May 1, 2014, 09:58 PM
May 2014

I'd laugh at that but then depression would sink in because I know it really happened.

lunasun

(21,646 posts)
28. In charge of shaping our history- sad
Thu May 1, 2014, 09:04 PM
May 2014

History will judge societies and governments — and their institutions — not by how big they are or how well they serve the rich and the powerful, but by how effectively they respond to the needs of the poor and the helpless.”
― César Chávez

TNNurse

(6,926 posts)
29. Count on this
Thu May 1, 2014, 09:13 PM
May 2014

Paul Ryan is ALWAYS WRONG. He is heartless and uncaring and does not care about anyone he does not know personally and probably not very much about some that he does know.

Oh, and the Koch brothers told him to do it that way.

dflprincess

(28,075 posts)
30. Compare Ryan's actions to Robert Kennedy's poverty tour
Thu May 1, 2014, 09:47 PM
May 2014

(the one Paul Wellstone redid).

How far we've fallen.

noiretextatique

(27,275 posts)
38. this sums up the problem of government
Sat May 3, 2014, 02:15 PM
May 2014

People without $$$$$ are excluded from the process. Why listen to actual poor people? Just listen the "experts" on poor people. Pretty much sums up our government...d and r.

JackInGreen

(2,975 posts)
43. There used to be hospitals
Mon May 5, 2014, 03:04 AM
May 2014

where dear paul could have gotten some help, I'm afraid the only thing left for him is to be the continual punchline of a travesty.

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