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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsI'm now a week without cigarettes, just an e-cig
This is why the anti-ecig crusade some seem to be on is so misguided. In the space of about six weeks, I've gone from 50 a day to 0, thanks to the e-cig. I'm going between three flavours of liquid, a tobacco, a cherry and a cinnamon.
Without the e-cig, I would still be smoking. With it, I've quit smoking with no real cravings. The slightly different sensation takes a few days to get used to and I haven't quite gotten up the courage to get rid of my tobacco yet (not least because tobacco is expensive so if I dump it, I'm out £50) but essentially, I've quit. And I keep hearing complaints about e-cigs having sweet flavours, like adults are only allowed to have "used ashtray", "boiled jockstrap" and "stale beer" flavours, all others are for kids.
This is why the crusade is so misguided. I'd been smoking for 25 years and I've been able to quit. My mother, who's been smoking for fifty years, is using e-cigs to quit. If you ban e-cigs or regulate them out of existence, we would still be smoking.
jberryhill
(62,444 posts)Prophet 451
(9,796 posts)At least, I hope you did.
Comrade Grumpy
(13,184 posts)The haters are just gonna hafta hate. Fuck 'em.
rurallib
(62,387 posts)but I still don't think e-cigs should be sold to kids or glamourized in movies etc. to entice kids.
There are a whole lot of us that started smoking to emulate parents / movie stars back in the 50s and 60s.
Makes no sense to get get today's kids hooked on nicotine the same way.
Nicotine is bad shit.
Prophet 451
(9,796 posts)but it is a lot less harmful than cigarettes.
Age regulations, absolutely. I don't know any e-cig user who's opposed to age restrictions. "Glamourised" is a case-by-case thing, same as cigarettes in movies. Sometimes, it makes sense for a character to smoke or vape (although I agree with keeping it out of kids movies and TV). What I think we need to be careful of is demonising e-cigs by presenting them (as some on DU do) as even worse than cigarettes.
That said, we have 18+ laws here (UK) and I would support every country adopting teh same rule.
rurallib
(62,387 posts)so I couldn't see there would be a reason to start showing vaping.
And I have yet to see a scene with smoking in it that would be lessened at all by removing the cigarette.
My best wishes for your quitting. I am about 40 years removed from a 3 pack a day habit.
Bluenorthwest
(45,319 posts)version. As Shakespeare said "the purpose of playing whose end, both at the first and now, was and is to hold, as twere, the mirror up to nature, to show virtue her own feature, scorn her own image, and the very age and body of the time his form and pressure."
Arts that edit out the flaws of a society, the habitual behaviors both good and bad, are dead as arts and are reduced to mere social propaganda. If people do a thing in life, that thing belongs in cinema and other related arts. Period.
robbob
(3,522 posts)The problem (as I understand it) is that the concentration of nicotine that is in a vial of the substance you are putting in you e-cig could seriously injure or even kill a child if they were to swallow it. Also, the nicotine can be absorbed through the skin so even spilling it could present a health hazard.
Don't get me wrong; I am all in favor of the e-cig, but there ARE some issues that need to be looked at.
Prophet 451
(9,796 posts)Every bottle I've brought has been child-proof and they should be stored with the same care as any of the other dozens of dangerous chemicals in the home.
awoke_in_2003
(34,582 posts)do we go after that next?
jtuck004
(15,882 posts)part of, all of, or more than one tobacco cigarette. That does not include kids under 5 those who sampled chewing tobacco, cigars, dissolvable tobacco, cigarette butts (74), other types of tobacco products (which don't include e-cigs, btw) snuff, and some unknown (forgot to mark a box)
(Those are just the ones reported. I suspect there are probably many more. In my experience, (which includes responding to hundreds of emergency calls) many caretakers and parents don't necessarily rush their kids to help after the adult has done something extraordinarily stupid.)
Anyway, I feel very safe in saying that regulations which prevent kids from purchasing cigarettes apparently had no impact on the infant poisoning cases.
In the same year, 84 exposures from e-cigs.
Zero deaths in any of those. (They quit ingesting them so much after 6, since they learn to use lighters and set shit on fire).
http://www.poison.org/stats/ (links to the stats at the top of this page)
There are two "reported" deaths from e-cig juice in 4 years, one an infant in Israel who was allowed to play with an e-cig and drank the contents, another fella who injected the e-juice.
You can't legislate stupid out of existence.
As a comparison, "Tobacco use is responsible for nearly 1 in 5 deaths; this equals about 480,000 early deaths each year. (Source: Cancer Facts & Figures 2014; and US Surgeon General Report 2014) "
So, over 4 years, 2 deaths for e-cigs vs almost 2 million for cigarettes. Cigarettes win.
Far more kids die from mommy and daddy's prescription pills, swimming pools, choking, and there are untold safeguards for those.
I'm all for truth in labeling, but any barrier that is placed in front of someone using or obtaining these far safer substitutes in light of the facts is like dancing on the graves of those that will die because of it. No difference between that and some TeaParty fascist wanting to remove things that support people when they need it.
But that's how people are. Because of the way we have developed, our minds replace the real threats with those that are less threatening, and then give them too much importance.
Funny people, us.
Glorfindel
(9,720 posts)My father and brother both died of lung cancer, and now my sister is undergoing treatment for it. (The outlook is very good, thank heaven!) I have been quit for more than 20 years. I know how difficult it is. I hope you can persevere and turn your back on tobacco forever.
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Prophet 451
(9,796 posts)Not really the same thing but thanks anyway.
betterdemsonly
(1,967 posts)of vapes for a year and a half now.
It really is wonderful isn't it.
I think neoliberal dems are attacking them because of the regressive tax revenue they have gotten from demonizing those of us still smoking the real thing. We must never tax the rich.
Prophet 451
(9,796 posts)I get my nic hit, get the sensation but get all these delightful flavours to choose from (still looking for a company over here that does a decent bourbon flavour). I'll confess that part of teh appeal is that I'm a techie and I get to tinker to my heart's content.
jberryhill
(62,444 posts)I kinda liked the bourbon from http://www.ecblendflavors.com/
Didn't like it enough to re-order after 15 ml, because I'm on more of a buttery cinnamon fruity range these days.
Prophet 451
(9,796 posts)hatrack
(59,578 posts)Did your sense of taste return yet? That was one of the early bonuses that I really enjoyed.
Prophet 451
(9,796 posts)My sense of smell is back in a big way (which is not always a plus) but taste is lagging slightly. I am noticing how much hot sauce I was putting on everything though.
tridim
(45,358 posts)I noticed after quitting a good scraping every day helped rebuild my taste buds quickly.
And a bonus, my tongue is pink again instead of yellow!
Prophet 451
(9,796 posts)Good tip, thanks!
randome
(34,845 posts)And for quitting smoking, brushing usually took away my urge rather handily. Also orange juice. Drink plenty of OJ, Prophet 451!
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Prophet 451
(9,796 posts)I have a condition where my stomach produces too much acid and I have to take a regulator. OJ is too acidic for me to drink. I'm using Diet Sprite instead.
displacedtexan
(15,696 posts)Haven't even thought of buying a single pack of cigs!
Congrats on your conversion!
Prophet 451
(9,796 posts)Hence, my hesitation in just throwing it out. Thank you.
angstlessk
(11,862 posts)but e-cigs...or now my vape has kept them all at bay...I have no desire to 'smoke'...as it caused me to have very brutal breathing problems, which I self diagnosed as acute bronchitis (since I did not have insurance)
After the first bout of bronchitis, I quit smoking for a month...then gave into temptation...and smoked more than before...then second bout...found e-cigs and have not had a single cigarette or even had a desire to 'smoke'
Started with 24 mg of nicotine...now down to 18...next 16...then 8...then 4...then 2 then zero!...
I may continue to vape for anxiety purposes...but no nic will be great!
Prophet 451
(9,796 posts)Being British, I'm covered by the NHS and it just baffles me that a modern country can still make healthcare dependent on cash.
I'll likely go the same way. I was on 24mg for most flavours but some only com in 18mg and I didn't notice much difference so on my next order, I'll probably just knock everything down to a uniform 18mg. Then, a few months later, knock it down to 12 and so on. Then I'd just be puffing flavoured steam because it tastes nice.
angstlessk
(11,862 posts)and will only cost me .37 per month and about $3,000 per year (deductibles and co pays)...so if I have oxygen at home (my friend) I will still self medicate! But do not expect another bout of bronchitis
I will use my healthcare if I break a leg or something as serious as that.
They_Live
(3,224 posts)using the e-cig once I completely quit the real cigs. I also restrict myself from where I can use it. I only use the e-cig occasionally now. I'm really glad that I quit smoking (almost a year and a half now).
merrily
(45,251 posts)Prophet 451
(9,796 posts)Behind the Aegis
(53,921 posts)Seriously, congrats!! I know how hard it is, literally. I smoked from almost 29 years! I got as high as 2.5 packs a day for almost 15 years. I started using the vapor cigs and cut back to a pack and a few. Once I knocked out some of my triggers, I was able to fluctuate and I got a new way of vaping, that's when I really made progress.
Just a few notes, you can read as much as you want online about what happens next, but it really will depend on your body. I stopped coughing about 4 days later, then after a week of no coughing, it started back up, for almost two weeks now, but nothing like before. It is really subsiding now. I had days where I felt drained and just "down." This, apparently, is normal as well. The cravings....well, let's just say for a week I wanted to punch someone in the throat...anybody. Now, I get them every now and again, but it falls away quickly (usually).
Vaping made this possible for me, too.
I heard the legends/stereotypes/etc. about bad British food, but it is the vapor juice too?! Well, I must say, I am a bit interested in one of those flavors... LOL!
Good luck. Congrats! Stay strong!
Prophet 451
(9,796 posts)Some of ours are great, some are terrible. I'm still trying to find a decent bourbon flavour over here.
Thanks!
Sissyk
(12,665 posts)but I'll tell you again. A big, big CONGRATS to you BtA!
And, you are correct. That coughing you are doing now is clearing out your system and is normal when smokers go smokeless.
You keep hanging in there!
angstlessk
(11,862 posts)After a month or so of not smoking, I quit coughing..it felt so weird, since I had been coughing for so many years, I worried there was something wrong!!!!!!
Then I reflected on my husband, who did not smoke and realized....he didn't cough!!! So maybe NOT coughing is normal???
Sissyk
(12,665 posts)But, it takes awhile (some people clear up earlier than others). The coughing they are doing from NOT smoking will stop and they will be normal, like you!
Sunlei
(22,651 posts)Prophet 451
(9,796 posts)The cheap ones you buy at the grocery store look like a cig but most of teh people I've seen using them are puffing on something that look more like a sonic screwdriver.
randome
(34,845 posts)...the Doctor would never smoke.
But good luck to you! Don't lose faith in yourself!
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pokerfan
(27,677 posts)Prophet 451
(9,796 posts)Mine is black with a smoked clearomiser but otherwise identical.
pokerfan
(27,677 posts)a Sonic Screwdriver...
That's also a laser pointer / flashlight.
Prophet 451
(9,796 posts)I'm both a techie and a modeller so I may just take a sonic screwdriver toy, an e-cig and kitbash them together.
Egnever
(21,506 posts)and the industry is growing very very quickly, hell on this thread here there are at least 5 people that started vaping in the last month.
giftedgirl77
(4,713 posts)But I keep falling off the wagon bc I keep getting liquid in the inhaler part then I'm feigning and just by a pack of smokes. I didn't have this problem for a while but now I can't figure out how to keep the liquid out of it if I set it on it's side or anything so I just went back to old habits.
Prophet 451
(9,796 posts)Normally, the bottom part of teh mouthpiece should meet teh silicon plug to keep liquid out of teh inhaler.
giftedgirl77
(4,713 posts)Congrats. I have found that when I use my ecig I don't usually crave traditional smokes.
jberryhill
(62,444 posts)You might want to try a Kanger pro-tank mini.
Additionally, the tank is glass, so there is no liquid/plastic interaction.
giftedgirl77
(4,713 posts)jberryhill
(62,444 posts)When you are having an issue with a tank, and changing the atomizer doesn't work, it sucks to buy another tank. But overall, the cost is still lower.
Also, buy a box of surgical gloves to wear when you are swapping out parts and refilling.
Amidst the hullabaloo over imagined hazards, you don't want to swap an atomizer with your bare fingers, forget to wash your hands thoroughly, and then wipe your eye later.
giftedgirl77
(4,713 posts)feel afterwards. Thanks for all your help.
Sunlei
(22,651 posts)device. Or maybe vampire fangs vapor delivery device.
Prophet 451
(9,796 posts)Sorry but that looks like some alien extruding energy from it's mouth. I like the idea of vampire fangs though.
Sissyk
(12,665 posts)Keep it up! Don't let the naysayers get you down.
Prophet 451
(9,796 posts)tridim
(45,358 posts)And I just ordered my favorite juice in the next two lower nicotine levels. Planning ahead.
Halo SubZero is my fave eLiquid BTW. It's a super strong mint flavor. You know, evil mint flavor, which apparently only kids enjoy.
Congrats on your quit, ignore the idiots!
Prophet 451
(9,796 posts)I think I'll carry on vaping even if I taper off the nicotine content. I was one of the few that actually enjoyed smoking and I enjoy the sensation of vaping so I'd probably keep huffing flavoured steam even without the nicotine content.
underpants
(182,631 posts)I need to quit again
notadmblnd
(23,720 posts)I was a menthol smoker so I've been using mostly menthol e-cigs. I have tried a couple of flavors but to me, so far they all taste like the chewing gum people have used in the past to quit.
Keep up the good work, we're doing awesome!
Prophet 451
(9,796 posts)I've found a couple of really nice mint and menthol flavours over here but, of course, that's useless to you.
Sissyk
(12,665 posts)with menthol nicotine? I have a friend that uses that and really likes it. On the other hand, she also changes and uses caramel tobacco flavor without menthol nicotine.
notadmblnd
(23,720 posts)I know it's more expensive but I think it's more recognizable to LEOs as an e-cig while driving. I do have a refillable one at home that has a tank and a wick and looks like some sci-fi gadget, but I feel that if I use it in public, that I'll be hassled more.
Sissyk
(12,665 posts)Pretty scifi as far as cigs go, but I have not found anyone that has been hassled over using one like the above in public. Nor have I been stopped by LEO for using one. Most people know what they are and are eager to learn how it is going, what favors I use, etc.
Keep it charged and that one you have at home is just fine for public.
notadmblnd
(23,720 posts)I'll have to give a look to more flavors. I'd eventually like to go nicotine free.
TheKentuckian
(25,020 posts)and unlike the cap in the gas stations and such actually deliver as promised. The nicotine will usually out last the battery and if you buy 10 they only run $3-4 bucks a piece, depending if there is a special.
I also suggest them for the hardest of the hard core smokers because they go up to an unbelievable 54mg of nicotine, powerful enough to beat even an unfiltered's punch. They can use those until they break the habit and then step down to a more reasonable but still extreme 36mg and then slide to more normal doses.
Ha! They do have a special, 10 for 29.99 http://www.whitecloudelectroniccigarettes.com/disposable-ecigarettes/
Check it out, might be your ticket.
notadmblnd
(23,720 posts)Tierra_y_Libertad
(50,414 posts)seabeyond
(110,159 posts)Go days without. Back to smoking. For a couple months now. This has to be it
Good luck to you. E cigs didn't do it for me. I couldn't figure them out
angstlessk
(11,862 posts)There are many support e-cig groups...one is http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/general-e-smoking-discussion/
Everything you need to know about e-cigs
SmartRat
(10 posts)I bought my ecig kit from Vapor Shark in Miami on January 5, and haven't had a cigarette since. Don't want one, don't crave one, and feel great.
I smoked at least 30 a day for over 45 years. I mean it's not like I didn't KNOW I should quit -- it's just a brutal habit to eliminate. So to psych myself up, I made it a game called "how long can I go without a cigarette?"
It's one of the best aids to emerge -- satisfies the hand-to-mouth and warm hit on the back of the throat -- and produces no obnoxious smoke. My husband is a confirmed non-smoker and he can't even smell it.
Keep it up!
Prophet 451
(9,796 posts)Instead of smelli9ng of smoke, I now smell of cinnamon and cherries. She's actually using some 0% nicotine juices in sweet flavours to help her lose weight.
logosoco
(3,208 posts)I started two years ago January and it has been a big life changer. I enjoyed smoking and never wanted to quit. Sometimes I feel like i really haven't, but my health says otherwise!
I had forgotten how much the world stinks when my smell powers came back! I wonder if I could have worked with animals like I did if I could smell it like I can now.
I like your sonic screwdriver description. I try not to call them my cigs around my grandsons, sometimes I call it a vape stick. I bet they notice Ma does not stick like she did when they were babies.
Keep it up and enjoy!
Prophet 451
(9,796 posts)Suddenly, I'm really wondering whether one of our cats should be getting better food!
Skittles
(153,113 posts)give it some time, Prophet 451, and then experiment with reducing the number of tobacco vapes
Prophet 451
(9,796 posts)In the course of time, I'll probably gradually reduce the nicotine level in my liquids until I'm huffing flavoured steam.
panader0
(25,816 posts)I smoked over 45 years, Camels, Luckys, Pall Malls, anything without a filter. I've been building up to this, and it was surprisingly easy.
I miss it, but not enough to turn back now.
Dawgs
(14,755 posts)Wasn't as hard as I thought. Trick is to get past the habit, which gets easier and easier every day.
Congrats.
Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)Some of them have higher doses of nicotine than cigarettes.
Get lower and lower percentage and then switch from tobacco to coffee flavor at zero percent.
Then stop buying it.
Done.
Prophet 451
(9,796 posts)I always enjoyed the sensation of smoking but in time, I'll likely taper off the nicotine content until I'm just puffing flavoured steam.
Right now, I'm on either a 24mg or an 18mg. I'd prefer 24 because I was a pretty heavy smoker but some flavours are only available in 18 and I'm not noticing much difference so my next order, I'll probably just knock everything down to a uniform 18mg.
Raksha
(7,167 posts)Bluenorthwest
(45,319 posts)nt
Tikki
(14,549 posts)It's awesome and so much cheaper
.
Once I mentioned how the constant regulations put on smoking actually helped me quit
Someone here told me I was weak-willed because I needed laws and restrictions to
to finally quit but I was just happy I quit.
Tikki
Prophet 451
(9,796 posts)Like a lot of English men, I'm extremely stubborn.
Tikki
(14,549 posts)I am sure you will find a way to achieve what you are after. Good Luck.
I was desperate to spend public and public outdoor time with my grandchildren and not have to run off somewhere and smoke.
I, also, didn't want them to ever remember me smoking and since I was their guardian at the time, I would step
outside to smoke, which meant shutting the door as they came toddling after me. Sometimes they
would stand behind the door crying for me.
California was great about putting rules and regulations against smoking that made sense. And when I saw friends and
acquaintances quitting I knew it had to happen for me, too.
I just quit, cold turkey as they say, almost 11 years ago. I have saved a lot of money over those years. I guess
that should have been the impetuous in itself to quit but it was a reward for me after the fact.
Tikki
SomethingFishy
(4,876 posts)I'm actually using a combination of the Blu e-cig battery with the Incredi-Pen atomizers. It works great and is nice and small so it's easy to carry around..
My company shot a Blu commercial and I got them for free. They weren't satisfying though. With the Incredi-pen atomizers it works much better and is way cheaper than the Blu cartridges.
Ignore the nay-sayers. I feel better, I'm breathing better, and I am saving a shitload of money.
As far as the e-juice goes I am finding it to be hit or miss. I work on the road so it's not always easy to find what I like. At home the store near me sells a brand called Voodoo e-juice. So far I have found those to be the best tasting..
I got the same thing! Got the incredipen from smoker friendly, have you seen it anywhere else? It came with a battery does the blue one work better? I have been breathing sooo much better and only hope big money doesn't take away this freedom.
SomethingFishy
(4,876 posts)I got them online once but then the site stopped selling them. I've since moved on to a Smok Tech battery and bigger tank, it's cheaper and more fulfilling... Plus the iPens were tough to refill.. I've been off the smokes for a year now, I'm down to a 12mg nicotine.. Feeling great.. Good luck and yeah we have to be vigilant as they are attempting to equate vaping with smoking...
On a side note, the incredipen's are now showing up at Dispensaries pre-filled with liquid TCH.. they work great with any battery..
jtuck004
(15,882 posts)about 40% of the population in 1960 to 15% for about the past 10 or so years, a number we appear to have plateaued at. That last 15% are very likely the harder core addicts, the hardest ones to move.
And that's why the New England Journal of Medicine wrote that in the circumstance where smokers have tried multiple times to quit without success (which describes tens of millions of people for whom patches, gum, etc don't work) suggest that the physician make the patient aware of vaping and the benefit to that safer substitute.
You are doing exactly the right thing. You mentioned money, but don't let that dissuade you. Most people who try these try several devices before they settle on what they like, and that is very likely to be more than one device. With a battery and atomizer top at less than $50US, and 2-3 bottles of fluid at $10 to $20 each you might still only be out $100 for the month, vs 300, and even less the next, but most people want or need to try other things. Still, if you had been spending $300 a month for cigarettes, that leaves a lot of room for experimentation, and it will be cheaper.
fyi - I started with e-cigs and they didn't do much, and the vaping pipe didn't either. Found a little shop whose mission is to get people off tobacco cigs, and they sold me 36/mg ml nicotine e-juice - a light tobacco flavor, as I recall.
Once I had that I set my cigs down and forgot them. Had not been without them in 42 years and I realized I had not put them in my pocket for 3 days. And that was because they got the nicotine concentration high enough to overcome what I was doing.
Now I am down in the 8-12-16 range, and will probably go to 0 with just some vegetable glycerine, water, and scent at some point, just 'cause I enjoy it.
If you have questions, there are lot of people here, and there is a site at http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/ with a lot of helpful info.
Prophet 451
(9,796 posts)Started out with a disposable to try it out. Once I decided I was going to do it properly, I was lucky enough to get good advice and hit on a device I loved straight away.
Leith
(7,808 posts)My flavor is peppermint. I tried peach (blah) and cinnamon (deadened all feeling and taste in my mouth). Since I'm practically addicted to Altoids, strong mint is natural for me.
I started with 16/18 mg strength (depending on where I got the vape juice), now I'm at 12. In a few months or so, I will drop the strength down a level again.
I gave my last few packs of tobacco cigarettes to my father-in-law.
I haven't missed tobacco at all. My sense of smell has got better. When I go to a place where smoking is the norm (a casino - I live in Las Vegas), the smell of stale tobacco isn't very pleasant, but it's tolerable.
The anti-vaping crusade is insane. Those idjits seem to want to control people, not do any real good.
Congrats!
Callmecrazy
(3,065 posts)And I love my "puffer", as I call it.
I have the Kanger tech brand with the larger battery and the low ohm filament. I get a good draw and I can fog up the inside of my car. I don't miss cigs at all, but I'm really enjoying puffing without having to excuse myself to the outdoors. Smoking is not allowed on my jobsite, and when I started puffing on the job i got a little flack for it. Once I explained that it wasn't smoke but fog they still bucked but I continue to puff on the job without much static anymore. The more people get educated in these things and the more they see that it helps smokers quit I think the puffers will be more readily accepted in public places. And I enjoy it immensely.
Keep up the good fight Prophet 451.
Warpy
(111,169 posts)Anything is better than inhaling concentrated smoke into your lungs. Just be aware that the smoke flavor will start to taste nasty as your senses of taste and smell return.
I understand the cherry flavor is especially nice.
awoke_in_2003
(34,582 posts)I have been using them a while, too. Now, I refuse to give up my daily pipe and occasional cigar, but I don't inhale them anyways. I smoke on pipe a night after work- it is my time to slow down and relax.
Egnever
(21,506 posts)Awesome! I knew you could do it.
etherealtruth
(22,165 posts)Youre braver than you believe, and stronger than you seem, and smarter than you think.
christopher-robin
Jesus Malverde
(10,274 posts)That my words resonated with someone is nice
Somedays it feels like only the NSA is listening.
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fadedrose
(10,044 posts)started when I was 17, and quit 5 years ago with the help of those giant bags of cough drops - 100 in each bag. Was never without one for a month, and started reading fiction books, mysteries, etc.
It took maybe 4-5 bags (any flavor-cheapest). I can't look at a cough drop now, but they did the job.
Warpy
(111,169 posts)so congratulations on discovering fresh air via cough drop.
They probably did you a lot of good as your lungs were starting to work correctly and you coughed up a lot of tar and other gunk.
fadedrose
(10,044 posts)Every time I went to the doctors, flues, pregnancies, shots, whatever, they always told me how clear my lungs were and couldn't figure it out.
I attribute it to the relaxation and pleasure I got from smoking.
I just got tired of being treated like a criminal, being made to go outside like a dog that has to pee, and people who were overcome with coughing spells when they passed a group of smokers. Then there were the grandchildren. I never smoked in the same room as my kids, went to the bathroom, provided a place for them to watch TV, and waited till they went to bed and smoked like a chimney. They were never sick and had perfect attendance except once. And, then the cost was too high after some laws were passed in Michigan - no more ordering tax-free cartons from Indian reservation, and smoking was dirty.
When I do pass a smoker outside a store, I always say something pleasant to them because I know how they are made to feel like dirt by nonsmokers. Usually something like, "I used to smoke, and enjoyed it immensely, but my time came to quit. Your time will come, so enjoy till then."
I look at their smoker eyes, and I hope they see love in mine..
pokerfan
(27,677 posts)I had got myself down to half a pad but never could give it up completely. I'm sure that the moralizers will say that I'm still smoking but they can go pound sand.
Besides eliminating the carcinogens and the stink and 2nd hand smoke, I can now moderate my nicotine intake. When you fire up a stinky, you are more or less committed to smoking the entire thing. With an ecig, I can take a single hit whenever I want, like at the poker table.
Prophet 451
(9,796 posts)Take a couple puffs with my coffee and then don't think about it for a couple of hours.
tridim
(45,358 posts)It smelled like crap when I tried the lozenges.
I'm super glad to not stink of cigarettes, but people smoking doesn't bother me in the least. Smoke away, I have an eCig.
LeftishBrit
(41,203 posts)And all the evidence shows that e-cigs are very rarely taken up by previous non-smokers.