TPM buried the lede: Patriot Leader Who Threatened To Rip Reid's Balls-Lives off Gov Disabilty Check

[kpete]

Militia Leader Threatens To Rip Reid’s Balls Off Over Bundy ‘Civil War’


http://forums.talkingpointsmemo.com/t/discussion-militia-leader-threatens-to-rip-reids-balls-off-over-bundy-civil-war-video/2544/13

I can't believe TPM buried the lede. The Patriot Leader Mike Vanderboegh is on Social Security disability. He was the idiot that encouraged Tea partiers to throws rocks at Congressional offices. He travels around the county on his SS disability checks protecting the border in Arizona, rallying for gun rights in Virginia and now in Nevada with fellow welfare grazing owner Cliven Bundy.

The minute I saw his name in the story I remember this guy and his disability story from the Post:

Vanderboegh said he once worked as a warehouse manager but now lives on government disability checks. He said he receives $1,300 a month because of his congestive heart failure, diabetes and hypertension. He has private health insurance through his wife, who works for a company that sells forklift products.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/03/25/AR2010032501722_2.html?sid=ST2010032402500

http://forums.talkingpointsmemo.com/t/discussion-militia-leader-threatens-to-rip-reids-balls-off-over-bundy-civil-war-video/2544
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/05/01/cliven-bundy-militia-harry-reid_n_5246085.html

[Frustratedlady]

1. If he can do all that to Reid, they just might have to take his disability away...

since that would take a bit of doin'.

He'd probably wet his pants if Reid barked back at him.

[genwah]

3. Wasn't Ol' Harry a Golden Gloves contender? I'd actually learn how pay-per-view works for that one.

[malaise]

45. You'd have to join the line

[awoke_in_2003]

58. Yes, he was...

getting into it with a boxer isn't wise.

[Blue Owl]

2. But of course

[HooptieWagon]

4. If he can travel around the country....

...guarding the border, attending rallies, and leading a terrorist militia in the desert; it doesn't sound like he has any kind of disability that prevents him from working. Time to cut the free-loader loose from the government teat, and arrest his ass.

[brush]

7. Yeah, him and Bundy, two peas in the government teat pod.

Birds of a feather . . . as they say.

[calimary]

18. Yep. This makes him a moocher, too!

[Bobbie Jo]

33. Not to mention...

A total hypocrite.

One of the many requisite RW character traits.

All-around horse's ass being another.

[pacalo]

22. Getting all worked up on extremist politics (as shown in pic) isn't good for his heart

or his hypertension, either.

[HooptieWagon]

24. Doesn't seem to slow him down.

It appears his condition isn't too serious. Perhaps he should also be investigated for SS fraud?

[pacalo]

25. I was thinking the same & wondering if anyone from his insurance company might have

noticed what he's been up to.

[KansDem]

5. So he doesn't recognize the federal government but does recognize its disability checks?

Okay, got it...[font size="1"]I think...[font size="2"]

[calimary]

19. Bill Maher had a good observation about that.

He singled out the teabagger who protested "keep yer government hands off my Medicare!" And he said that's like driving cross-country to protest highways. Should show you what kind of mentality (or more accurately, LACK thereof) we're dealing with, here.

[HooptieWagon]

26. The mis-spelled signs already indicate...

...these people aren't the sharpest knives in the drawer.

[MisterP]

6. well, remember that 40% assistance benefits don't even KNOW it

http://www.allgov.com/Unusual_News/ViewNews/Millions_of_Americans_Dont_Know_They_Receive_Government_Benefits_110214
they do literally think that "U.S. Treasury" is some sort of sweepstakes or private company that rewards them for being white--sort of like how in the Paulbots' Contractualstan all safety testing would be done by some corporation--and it won't be UL

[Rider3]

8. It always amazes me...

that the people who are collecting their government checks are the loudest ones protesting those who need assistance. I cannot see how they don't see themselves as being included in the social safety net. There's dumb, but this is WAY beyond dumb.

[HooptieWagon]

11. Ayn Rand collected SS and Medicare...

So much for the "rugged individualist creators" who view others as "takers". The whole lot of them are frauds and phonies.

[Auntie Bush]

30. It's always "I've got mine" but you, not so much.

[A Simple Game]

43. It's not like she could have lived off of her royalty checks. n/t

[waddirum]

23. remember the state rep from Arkansas

who was paralyzed in a car accident, and collected significant amount of Medicaid for his treatment, but opposed expanding Medicaid for others.

[Aristus]

9. What a wimp.

I have patients with co-morbid diabetes, hypertension and congestive heart failure. And they aren't hiding behind a lame whimper of 'disability'.

Stupid puke...

A limp dick with a gun; that's all...

[Swede Atlanta]

16. Well if he is so disabled shouldn't he be staying home?

I mean I remember as a kid the few times I told my Mom I was too sick to go to school. She told me if I was that sick then I needed to stay in bed which meant at that time no television because there was only one television in the living room.

So if this guy is so disabled as to get a check from us then he needs to stay home and take care of those conditions. He shouldn't be out stressing himself out screaming stupidity. That might raise his blood pressure.

Wait, actually that might be a good thing. If he works himself into a frenzy and has a massive heart attack or stroke and it kills him we will be free of a stupid loudmouth and one less "taker".

I say that only in jest because I do not wish any person ill. But the thought is there. They think it is okay for them to be takers and spout off against the government that is providing them with "free money" and then go on to talk about the other "takers", i.e. black and brown people.

[Generic Other]

20. They are walking contradictions

They love the flag. Hate the blacks. Love the country. Hate Obama. Love the teaparty. Hate liberals. Love their guns. Hate taxes. Love a free ride. Hate giving a lift to anyone else. Love calling themselves patriots. Hate when we call them the problem.

[Auntie Bush]

32. He doesn't have a limp dick

He never had one in the first place! Deformed at birth. Or maybe he lost it...just absorbed into his body. No wonder he needs a gun.

[malaise]

10. Looks like a gathering of moochers and

Takers here.
Looks like the takers aren't in the inner city after all

[lunasun]

28. for some reason most do not seem to have a 9-5 gig they need to return to I noticed

guessing many under 60 are on SS or VA

sad as real sick people need financial help and get denied or have a long wait

[malaise]

29. Probably being paid on the side by a front organization - Kochroaches

ALEX, AFP, NRA - just like the teabagger ReTHUGs

[lunasun]

34. most likely true too but they still then are not members of working America in the usual sense

they seem to always want to come across as just "plain hard working Americans standing up to government' ,but do not seem to have a gig they need to get back to anytime soon

Considering all the guns/weapon and fetishes they own I would not think of them as the disenfranchised poor/unemployed of society trying to make a stand either

I have no problem with assistance but if you are going to disdain " da aid to Negroes ' yet be getting assistance yourself like this jack then wtf?

[malaise]

35. moochers and takers

lazy ReTHUG scumbags.
Another version of them are the evangelical snake oil salesmen and a variety of other con men.
This bunch likes how they look with guns. They think they're tough.

[951-Riverside]

39. I don't think the Kochheads are involved, I think they high tailed it and left long ago

I doubt Koch would be paying them to lounge around with no national media around. Billy Bob with his 300 twitter followers don't count as national media and where Koch goes, Fox follows. Fox left a long time ago.

This is what a Koch production looks like (check out the premade signs, speakers and flags):

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And after Fox left

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I doubt the Koch bothers would be giving them FEMA supplies either.

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Most of the "supplies" in that photo is stuff they don't really need which leads me to believe it was stolen, we already know that most of them are mooching off welfare, disability and vet programs to stay there otherwise they wouldnt be there on a weekday lounging around.

Maybe I'm wrong but I think Fox/Koch packed up and high tailed it after Clueless Bozo started mouthing off about "the negros" and right now they are praying that none of this comes up in 2015-16 debates.

I have my doubts about the Kook Brothers being involved at this time.

[ALBliberal]

40. Get Up Stand Up Sign Photo 1

On behalf of Bob Marley fans I am offended that these heartless takers with their I got mine screw you philosophy stole those words!

[SunSeeker]

62. Exactly. Bob Marley ripped these type of people in his song "Crazy Baldhead."

[AtheistCrusader]

42. Hm.

I suppose that stuff could be surplus, but I would suspect theft as well.

[Diremoon]

49. Not so sure

I think there is more to the story than this clueless bozo. I suspect that this is a PR thing to set the narrative to what the Koch bros want: free land for oil, gas, mining, lumber, and grazing.

http://www.americanprogress.org/issues/green/report/2013/03/11/56103/state-efforts-to-reclaim-our-public-lands/

Too long have we underestimated their evil.

[Gothmog]

12. Keep the government hands off my Medicare

These rightwing nut cases are sad

[grasswire]

13. he looks well enough to work to me! nt

[mudstump]

14. Stop his disability checks....

If he can get up there and yell and scream and patrol the Arizona border he is not disabled. He should lose his monthly checks.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

15. He's only a Self-Styled Patriot Leader, not an actual one. nt

[The Wizard]

17. Judging by their ages

and the vitriol in them, I see strokes in their future.

[Aldo Leopold]

21. I hereby rename the Tea Party the Teat Party.

Unless some other utterly brilliant DU member has already done so and I missed it.

[nikto]

53. The Teat Party

I like that.

Good job!

[Historic NY]

27. Apparently he is doing work protesting against the country....

put a stop on his checks and make him get a real job..

[Nobel_Twaddle_III]

31. Why is his podium wrapped in the flag of a government he does not recognize ?

[madinmaryland]

36. Typical teabagger: "I got mine, fuck everyone else"

[47of74]

37. I don't break bread with teabaggers

There is nothing to be gained by being nice to them.

[judesedit]

38. A blow-hard loser who wants everything for nothing but doesn't want anybody else to have anything

Greedy hateful bastard

[erpowers]

41. Can They Take His Disability Away?

If he can travel that much he should be healthy enough to work. If he can stand at the border of Arizona in an attempt to find and prevent illegal immigrants from entering the country he can continue to work. In addition, don't numerous people continue to work with those same health conditions? What is preventing him from working as a warehouse manager?

[HooptieWagon]

44. Starve them out.

Blockade food and water supply lines. Cut electricity and phone. Beseige the ranch. In a few weeks, when temps go over 100, they'll start fighting each other over dwindling supplies. They'll surrender meekly enough, and it'll send a message to all the other wanna-be looney toons infesting the internet.

[alp227]

46. Another Paul Ryan case?

(Paul Ryan is a beneficiary of Social Security survivor's benefits who wants to cut similar benefits for everyone else, because takers.)

[dawn frenzy adams]

47. If he were a black female ,the Right-Wing would be on a reel to reel tirade

Didn't Senator Tom Coburn, get out of serving in Vietnam, because of a mental disability? Yet, he managed to get through medical school? Isn't John McCain receiving governmental funds for being 100% disabled? Yet, he serves as a full-time senator and has campaigned for president?

Well, some folks are just privileged.

[blkmusclmachine]

50. HA HA Of course...

[951-Riverside]

51. It gets better...

They showed up at the Las Vegas Police Headquarters and filed a complaint against the BLM.

These are the same guys who threatened to kill cops, pointed guns at cops, threatened Harry Reid, prevented media from accessing a public road, set up checkpoints on public roads, said "the negros" are on welfare because they never learned how to pick cotton, punched a fellow Mooch Militia member/Vietnam Vet in the chest then pushed him down, threatened to draw guns on each other, stole equipment from each other, stockpiling (likely stolen) FEMA food and equipment and using HAM radio equipment without a license.

[Warren DeMontague]

52. I'm not buying it.

That dude's grip looks far too arthritic, for starts.

[PatrickforO]

54. Government isn't the enemy

Ronal Reagan did this nation a grave disservice when he said government isn't the solution; it is the problem. This accelerated the trend toward deregulation and privatization, and ultimately ensured that our government, ostensibly of, by and for the people, has been bought and paid for by corporate interests.

Government is not now, and has never been the enemy. The enemy is the corporate interests, which are dominated by the military-industrial complex Ike warned us about. Now that we're an inch away from being an oligarchy, we see our government, the people we've elected to represent us, representing the interests of the very rich and big corporations at our expense. Yet, individual taxpayers such as we pay in over 83% of the government's total tax revenue, and corporations less that 10%. In 1944, individuals paid in 53% and corporations 35%. So basically we're spending more and more and getting less and less.

It is still possible for us to take back our government by staying in communication with those we elect and holding them accountable for what they do, but most Americans are apathetic, maybe because we've been 'dumbed down' over many years as corporatism has created a culture of militant ignorance with its propaganda and downgraded our public schools with its cancerous tendrils.

Now, the big moneyed interests have created and funded Tea Parties all over the United States and we have government gridlock. The problem is that, like Germany of the 1920s and 30s, they foolishly think they can control these people once they are in power. Many want to impose a theocracy on this nation.

Theocracy plus oligarchy equals fascism.

So back to this ignorant man who is receiving SSDI benefits yet preaching revolution against the government. He clearly believes in what he is saying, but this militia movement is truly dangerous to everything this nation once stood for. Do you know that these people are stopping people on the road and demanding papers? Proof of address? Sowing fear among the people of this small town? And our government isn't doing anything to fix it. Very alarming.

I wonder what this man will think when the government is overthrown and he suddenly finds himself without his monthly SSDI check. Do you think he will realize his mistake? If these people are going to tear this country down, then what will they replace it with? Do they even have a plan? Or maybe God will miracle us a new government...

[RKP5637]

63. Well said! These individuals can't get it through their thick heads that they are

domestic terrorists. I agree with all you said, and well said!

[JoePhilly]

55. Repeat this, over and over: "Mike Vanderboegh, Welfare Queen".

Take their dog whistle term, which they claim isn't a dog whistle, and throw it right back at them.

Then watch them squirm.

[Thinkingabout]

56. It just may be a convention for moochers, having classes in getting on disability from

The US Government they do not recognize. Some one call Romney and tell him where there are a lot of his 47% of takers.

[merrily]

57. He is not traveling around the country on OASDI disability payments. Be sure of that.

Either he has other assets or someone is funding him.

People who live solely on OASDI payments of any kind are lucky to eat, let alone travel the country. And this is more so of disability than any other OASDI payment because disability cut short the worker's contributions to the OASDI fund and the monthly amount is based on the contribution.

I have no problem attacking this guy for his hypocrisy, MAYBE even possibly faking a disability, but let's not make believe that $1300 a month is what's enabling him to travel the country.

[jwirr]

59. When we have a terrorist or even a foe overseas we freeze their accounts. The money should not

be permanently taken away from these guys but it should be frozen pending an arrest and trial. The government should not be subsidizing a group that has openly denied the existence of said government.

[Mr Sancho Panza]

60. 1300 a month?

D@mn!

This guy makes more on disability than me and my wife combined. I need to rethink my life.

[WhiteTara]

61. When will this be picked up by the MSM?

should we take bets...Rachel by Thursday.

[demigoddess]

64. I knew a guy, a republican

right winger type, who not only cheated on worker's comp when he collected it but also had about 5 of his children either on welfare or SSI. But he always declared that the government gave him nothing.