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riqster

(13,986 posts)
Thu May 8, 2014, 03:13 PM May 2014

Miami Finds Itself Ankle-Deep in Climate Change Debate

In a state run by climate change deniers:

http://mobile.nytimes.com/2014/05/08/us/florida-finds-itself-in-the-eye-of-the-storm-on-climate-change.html?hpw&rref=us&_r=0&referrer=

May 7, 2014
MIAMI BEACH — The sunny-day flooding was happening again. During high tide one recent afternoon, Eliseo Toussaint looked out the window of his Alton Road laundromat and watched bottle-green saltwater seep from the gutters, fill the street and block the entrance to his front door.

Down the block at an electronics store it is even worse. Jankel Aleman, a salesman, keeps plastic bags and rubber bands handy to wrap around his feet when he trudges from his car to the store through ever-rising waters.

A new scientific report on global warming released this week, the National Climate Assessment, named Miami as one of the cities most vulnerable to severe damage as a result of rising sea levels. Alton Road, a commercial thoroughfare in the heart of stylish South Beach, is getting early ripples of sea level rise caused by global warming — even as Florida’s politicians, including two possible contenders for the presidency in 2016, are starkly at odds over what to do about it and whether the problem is even real.


More at the link. A good article.
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Miami Finds Itself Ankle-Deep in Climate Change Debate (Original Post) riqster May 2014 OP
Problem solved. nt Xipe Totec May 2014 #1
If it only affected Repubs, yeah. riqster May 2014 #25
Boy howdy, there's never been a better time for investing in Florida real estate! hatrack May 2014 #2
A science-denying associate of mine ignored the warnings. riqster May 2014 #3
It's time again for Stiltsville! Eleanors38 May 2014 #24
Yabbut, Arugula Latte May 2014 #4
Well, my ankles aren't as reliable as they used to be, soooo.... riqster May 2014 #5
look on the sunny side onethatcares May 2014 #6
I thought he'd been officially designated Governor Gollum? hatrack May 2014 #14
That's just precious. riqster May 2014 #18
DUzy! scarletwoman May 2014 #30
Pretty soon, $25.00 just might buy a beach house. riqster May 2014 #15
I wish this was limited to oh... Florida nadinbrzezinski May 2014 #7
Quite true. riqster May 2014 #8
And it is on both sides nadinbrzezinski May 2014 #9
Climate "science" bullshit again? Scuba May 2014 #10
Holy shit, he really looks like that? riqster May 2014 #17
Here's an earlier post I made about him that I saw on Reddit OnlinePoker May 2014 #19
Bleach. Brain. Urg. riqster May 2014 #23
Sometimes the only way to get people to believe something mindwalker_i May 2014 #11
I'm all out of Give-A-Damn for one hell of a lot of my fellow citizens . . . hatrack May 2014 #12
And I'm rooting for the reality stick mindwalker_i May 2014 #13
It always does. riqster May 2014 #16
+1 redqueen May 2014 #20
A fever does indeed help with an infection... Jasana May 2014 #21
Well put. riqster May 2014 #22
Some of them already are devoid of sense. Nt riqster May 2014 #27
I had to change dentists, mine denied climate change and was against healthcare for poor people randys1 May 2014 #26
Horror! riqster May 2014 #28
The facts are the facts malaise May 2014 #29
Ah, those pesky facts mean nothing. riqster May 2014 #31
Hope they still believe that crap as malaise May 2014 #32
Actually I disarm that crowd often nadinbrzezinski May 2014 #33

riqster

(13,986 posts)
3. A science-denying associate of mine ignored the warnings.
Thu May 8, 2014, 03:32 PM
May 2014

He is having trouble getting insurance on his oceanfront property. Wow, who could have predicted THAT???

onethatcares

(16,166 posts)
6. look on the sunny side
Thu May 8, 2014, 03:43 PM
May 2014

governor alien has decided to lower auto registration fees by a whopping $25.00. With that, he's been touring the state claiming you can now buy a house, or a car.

He's the greatest,

riqster

(13,986 posts)
15. Pretty soon, $25.00 just might buy a beach house.
Thu May 8, 2014, 05:44 PM
May 2014

Snorkels not included for that price-bring your own.

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
7. I wish this was limited to oh... Florida
Thu May 8, 2014, 03:45 PM
May 2014

but that is another story, and I mean the denial of the problem, or solutions.

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
9. And it is on both sides
Thu May 8, 2014, 03:55 PM
May 2014

and I will leave it at that.

Now some wonderful public scoping report to read... I got my coffee... and those ARE beyond boring.

mindwalker_i

(4,407 posts)
11. Sometimes the only way to get people to believe something
Thu May 8, 2014, 05:19 PM
May 2014

is to beat them senseless with evidence. This might just do it.

On the other hand, it would be fun to keep telling them that Jesus will save them.

hatrack

(59,584 posts)
12. I'm all out of Give-A-Damn for one hell of a lot of my fellow citizens . . .
Thu May 8, 2014, 05:35 PM
May 2014

You choose to embrace pig-ignorance, magical thinking, American Exceptionalism, Beckian paranoia and rejection of rational, objective thought in favor of What Makes You Feel Good Inside (TM)?

Fine. Let the Reality Stick descend for as many times and with as much force as necessary until the lesson is conveyed.

redqueen

(115,103 posts)
20. +1
Thu May 8, 2014, 06:00 PM
May 2014

It will get worse until we change our behavior. In a discussion on tumblr among teens and young adults about global warming, one said something I will never forget: 'A fever helps fight infection.'

Kids, huh? They say the darnedest things.

randys1

(16,286 posts)
26. I had to change dentists, mine denied climate change and was against healthcare for poor people
Thu May 8, 2014, 07:48 PM
May 2014

but he was pretty good and the nitrous was free

oh well, i refuse to go to a scientist who does not believe in science

malaise

(268,949 posts)
29. The facts are the facts
Thu May 8, 2014, 08:00 PM
May 2014
http://articles.sun-sentinel.com/2013-10-17/news/fl-high-tides-moon-flooding-20131017_1_coastal-flooding-sea-level-rise-earth
<snip>
Coastal flooding getting worse with sea-level rise

A conspiracy of the moon, high tides and the steady rise of the oceans left up to a foot of sea water in some sections of Fort Lauderdale and Miami Beach Thursday.

These atmospheric factors join forces three to five times every year to heap ocean water at the shoreline, leaving streets and low-lying coastal areas throughout South Florida flooded.

Because the Atlantic Ocean has risen about 9 inches in the past 80 to 100 years, the problem continues to deepen, said Jennifer Jurado, director of Broward County's Natural Resources Planning and Management Division.

"For many community members, who live in low-lying areas, the flooding has significantly increased in the last several years, compared to what they were experiencing two decades ago," she said.

riqster

(13,986 posts)
31. Ah, those pesky facts mean nothing.
Thu May 8, 2014, 08:31 PM
May 2014

The Lord Jehovah will rapture all the true believers into Heaven, leaving only the hellbound heathens to deal with this situation.

Any day now, you wait and see.

Any day now, yep....

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
33. Actually I disarm that crowd often
Thu May 8, 2014, 08:51 PM
May 2014

But God promised in Genesis that he would never again destroy the world.

Yes, yes he did (validate the crazy belief), but he never said a word about humans, and we are doing a fine job out of it since we are exercising that pesky gift from the Lord, and that is FREE WILL. (sucker punch)

They usually stammer in place. I have even at times quoted chapter and verse of yes, GENESIS to make my point.

It's gotten bad enough that I actually disarmed a local preacher, in front of some of his flock. His flock, ok some of the women with children, asked for actual info on this evil invention from the far left. I think it was the young children that did it quite frankly.

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