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babylonsister

(171,035 posts)
Thu May 8, 2014, 07:20 PM May 2014

Jake Tapper to GOP Congressman: Why Didn’t Republicans Care This Much About 4,500 Deaths in Iraq?




Jake Tapper to GOP Congressman: Why Didn’t Republicans Care This Much About 4,500 Deaths in Iraq?
May 8, 2014 By Allen Clifton


To hear conservatives talk, you’d think that Benghazi was some massive coverup rivaling or worse than Watergate. While conservatives have had many conspiracy theories (my favorite being that Obama ordered armed gunships – already in the air – to stand down) they’ve all been repeatedly debunked. Now they’ve basically been reduced to trying to turn the talking points that were used by Susan Rice in the days immediately following the attack into some massive coverup that really nobody besides them cares about.

Oh, by the way, we’ve spent millions of the taxpayers’ money on these pointless hearings just so that Republicans can play partisan politics. Then again, Republicans have spent millions on pointless votes to repeal “Obamacare” so the party for “fiscal responsibility” seems to be eager to continue to prove their hypocrisy. Because nothing says “fiscal responsibility” quite like wasting millions of dollars playing pointless partisan politics.

And when it comes to Benghazi, it’s especially hypocritical of Republicans to fake this outrage over what happened there while mostly ignoring the over 4,400 Americans that died in Iraq because of George W. Bush’s lies.

Well, CNN’s Jake Tapper hit Republican Rep. Trey Gowdy, the chairman for the select committee for another Benghazi “investigation,” with the question many liberals have been asking conservatives.

“Republicans in general did not seem to have this appetite to find out what went wrong when incorrect intelligence was used to push the war in Iraq,” Tapper asked. “Do you see why some people might say, ‘Why is this more important than that war which resulted in the deaths of more than 4,500 American soldiers and countless innocent Iraqis?”

Exactly!

Shockingly, Gowdy didn’t answer the question.

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Jake Tapper to GOP Congressman: Why Didn’t Republicans Care This Much About 4,500 Deaths in Iraq? (Original Post) babylonsister May 2014 OP
The genocide in Iraq is the doing of the GOP. Dawson Leery May 2014 #1
One could say genocide is all republicans are good for randys1 May 2014 #2
Yeah Plucketeer May 2014 #32
Maybe we could interest them in some Kool-Aid FiveGoodMen May 2014 #41
Nah Plucketeer May 2014 #42
! FiveGoodMen May 2014 #43
Can't stand Tapper, but it's a good question. KittyWampus May 2014 #3
911 911 911 billhicks76 May 2014 #15
Worse than that, they got promotions... Wounded Bear May 2014 #28
Think about that for a second. AleksS May 2014 #30
She sucked at that, too... Wounded Bear May 2014 #31
Logical To Promote billhicks76 May 2014 #48
And yet our Rice got the shaft over something waaaaay more trivial Proud Liberal Dem May 2014 #77
Promoted To Shut Up billhicks76 May 2014 #83
I wonder why the press and DC Dems are afraid to go there when it's so obvious. yurbud May 2014 #81
Two Reasons billhicks76 May 2014 #84
I think 9/11 is far enough in the past now that the public could handle the truth yurbud May 2014 #85
They Always Could billhicks76 May 2014 #86
He also should have asked Politicalboi May 2014 #4
yes, why has no one shoved that in their hopemountain May 2014 #53
I'm actually quite shocked to hear this. It's something I ask multiple times every day! calimary May 2014 #61
Wow, that's a shocker. onecaliberal May 2014 #5
Nah! Plucketeer May 2014 #33
The next question should be think May 2014 #6
Though I am not happy we lost American lives, republicans is not interested in trying to Thinkingabout May 2014 #7
I agree completely. onecaliberal May 2014 #45
Welcome to DU, onecaliberal! calimary May 2014 #62
Thank you! onecaliberal May 2014 #65
Tapper should have kept asking it until the fool answered the question. mountain grammy May 2014 #8
Whoa... K&R Firebrand Gary May 2014 #9
video wheniwasincongress May 2014 #10
They didn't care about Katrina and don't care about West Virginia either. nt valerief May 2014 #11
Whoa, excellent question. Very rare to see that among tv "news people" these days quinnox May 2014 #12
Jake Tapper said that? Snotcicles May 2014 #13
I have a headache. Boomerproud May 2014 #14
Rep. Trey Gowdy. Ikonoklast May 2014 #22
Jake!!! Ya trying to be a journalist or something?! Cha May 2014 #16
He's lapsing? nt Snotcicles May 2014 #18
Thank you Jake! markmyword May 2014 #47
almost fell out of my chair when i read this hopemountain May 2014 #54
Really, hope.. I think we all remember some past Jake episodes Cha May 2014 #57
Bush was never held accountable ... napkinz May 2014 #17
Your choir preachin, you'll never reach your goal. nt Snotcicles May 2014 #19
ummmm ... what is my goal? napkinz May 2014 #21
The CIA wrote that Gowdy has some facts wrong. Gowdy has joined the Circus! DhhD May 2014 #20
WAAAH! LIBRUL MEDIA BIAS! nxylas May 2014 #23
Or when the president did nothing when told America was under attack... KansDem May 2014 #24
where was the outrage in 2001 on THAT 9/11? ... napkinz May 2014 #37
Great collection! Thanks! CrispyQ May 2014 #38
thanks ... many more at ---> napkinz May 2014 #69
What. The. Hell. Tapper, is that you? nt MaeScott May 2014 #25
Yep libodem May 2014 #26
Exactly. 1,800 Amercians died in their own city on American soil as we watched on TV. nt SunSeeker May 2014 #64
They skated libodem May 2014 #67
A reporter asked a tough question of a republican? liberal N proud May 2014 #27
K&R Blue Owl May 2014 #29
Hows about... Plucketeer May 2014 #34
Everything Republicans do these days smallcat88 May 2014 #35
GOPers hate FEMA and hate anything that helps the American people Iliyah May 2014 #36
The media is catching on Gothmog May 2014 #39
Obviously yellowwoodII May 2014 #40
Gowdy did not answer? 3catwoman3 May 2014 #44
Maybe he wants to avoid being another Chuckie Todd.. Vietnameravet May 2014 #46
Who Hired Them? markmyword May 2014 #50
i can only imagine how the iraq wounded must feel about this spanone May 2014 #49
Was this the ONION??? JoePhilly May 2014 #51
Hear, hear!!!! Beacool May 2014 #52
K&R'd. snot May 2014 #55
Ask about BEIRUT. GO AFTER ST.RONNIE. "Iraq" offers the "but..other countries...intelligence..." WinkyDink May 2014 #56
I tried that with a Republican at the State Fair a few years ago. He got a really confused look xocet May 2014 #66
Republicans are like sulphurdunn May 2014 #58
Gowdy is a Hypocrite. cynzke May 2014 #59
"Shockingly, tosh May 2014 #60
*crickets* TeamPooka May 2014 #63
it wasn't "incorrect" intelligence, it was LIES yurbud May 2014 #68
The intelligence was so twisted and manipulated with Iraq Proud Liberal Dem May 2014 #73
yep. And even so, no politician old enough to remember the Cold War should have fallen for it yurbud May 2014 #75
I was dumbfounded how many politicos went along with it Proud Liberal Dem May 2014 #76
with NONE of the intel, you could figure out Iraq was no threat to us. yurbud May 2014 #78
When I thought of countries that were threatening back then (and now) Proud Liberal Dem May 2014 #79
even North Korea is at worst playing chicken. It is also telling how we react to them compared to yurbud May 2014 #80
Ringleader of the Circus: Gowdy doxydad May 2014 #70
Because they don't actually respect the soldiers..... AverageJoe90 May 2014 #71
Not to diminish their deaths Proud Liberal Dem May 2014 #72
And of course Iraq involved massive, deliberate lies. DirkGently May 2014 #74
Without the blowjob... IkeRepublican May 2014 #82
 

billhicks76

(5,082 posts)
15. 911 911 911
Thu May 8, 2014, 10:03 PM
May 2014

They didn't care about ANYONE in this country who contributed to 3000 deaths on 911. Not one person fired. Can they be any worse evil scum? It's only about winning things for themselves and partisanship. Most of the GOP are essentially traitors.

Wounded Bear

(58,601 posts)
28. Worse than that, they got promotions...
Fri May 9, 2014, 10:49 AM
May 2014

Last edited Fri May 9, 2014, 11:44 AM - Edit history (1)

Dame Condi was the National Security Advisor during the runup to 9/11. She was crowned SoS for her "efforts."

AleksS

(1,665 posts)
30. Think about that for a second.
Fri May 9, 2014, 11:14 AM
May 2014

Think about that for a second.

The most egregious security breach in United States history. So what do we do to the person in charge of National Security when the most egregious security breach in US history happens? Promote her.

As always, IOKIYAR.

Everything is always OK If You Are Republican.

Wounded Bear

(58,601 posts)
31. She sucked at that, too...
Fri May 9, 2014, 11:46 AM
May 2014

I'd be hard pressed to remember a single notable Foreign Service accomplishment in her term.

 

billhicks76

(5,082 posts)
48. Logical To Promote
Fri May 9, 2014, 05:42 PM
May 2014

Thats how you shut them up. If one gets prosecuted they narc and the rest go down like dominos just like the drug war. They are purchasing silence. Prosecute Cheney and he will tell on his friends for there is no honor amongst thieves.

Proud Liberal Dem

(24,394 posts)
77. And yet our Rice got the shaft over something waaaaay more trivial
Mon May 12, 2014, 11:08 AM
May 2014

In fact, McCain DEFENDED Condi Rice's elevation to SOS in 2005

 

billhicks76

(5,082 posts)
83. Promoted To Shut Up
Mon May 12, 2014, 06:12 PM
May 2014

If one of any number of high level players in that organized crime were prosecuted they would narc the rest out. None of them would take the fall for their fellow immoral,selfish criminals.

 

billhicks76

(5,082 posts)
84. Two Reasons
Mon May 12, 2014, 06:18 PM
May 2014

Last edited Tue May 13, 2014, 11:16 PM - Edit history (1)

1) Conflict Of Interests. Their bosses are essentially dependent on the cabal. Those who reside on the boards of directors for the big media firms also sit on the boards for the investment banks and military contractors and have a financial incentive to go to war and at the same time repress dissent at home while ramping up a police state to protect the .01%
2) Fear. They know the truth that many who are in power that resist die from unusual circcumstances. Also, they know people have an easier time believing there's multitudes of small lies. It's the big lies which are true that are too much a shock to people's belief systems and they will resist them out of self-preservation.

 

billhicks76

(5,082 posts)
86. They Always Could
Tue May 13, 2014, 11:21 PM
May 2014

According to Zogby Polls, a majority of Americans and a super-majority of New Yorkers believe we were lied to by our government about 911 because they had a vested interest in allowing it to happen.

calimary

(81,116 posts)
61. I'm actually quite shocked to hear this. It's something I ask multiple times every day!
Sun May 11, 2014, 04:46 PM
May 2014

Well how 'bout that. Next, I hope he asks why they never bothered to acknowledge or fill repeated requests for more embassy security funding. It's on THEIR heads that ANYBODY was killed because of that.

 

Plucketeer

(12,882 posts)
33. Nah!
Fri May 9, 2014, 11:50 AM
May 2014

It was likely just a flaccid attempt at blowing some hot air into their "Fare un Balanced" byline. And he certainly wasn't really expecting an answer.

 

think

(11,641 posts)
6. The next question should be
Thu May 8, 2014, 07:54 PM
May 2014

What did the GOP think would happen to America when they cut taxes for the wealthy while sending the nation to war?

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
7. Though I am not happy we lost American lives, republicans is not interested in trying to
Thu May 8, 2014, 07:55 PM
May 2014

find what can be done in the future to give more protection for our US facilities. Libya is a hot bed, out of control and dangerous. Is this investigation going to result in improving anything, very doubtful, just more waste of money trying to prove something which is not true.

onecaliberal

(32,779 posts)
45. I agree completely.
Fri May 9, 2014, 03:10 PM
May 2014

If Republicans were serious about embassy security, fully funding security would be part of the discussion. In addition, republican defunding security would be part of the discussion about what happened to begin with.

calimary

(81,116 posts)
62. Welcome to DU, onecaliberal!
Sun May 11, 2014, 04:49 PM
May 2014

Glad you're here! This is totally spot-on. It actually ALL routes back to THEM. No extra funding for embassy security because it was just so much more satisfying and loyal to the Almighty Agenda to keep on saying "no." And what DO they have to say about those 45-hundred American deaths in Iraq - as well as the eleven other embassy attacks in which Americans died - on dubya's watch? Again, NOTHING said about any of that. Not a freakin' peep.

onecaliberal

(32,779 posts)
65. Thank you!
Sun May 11, 2014, 09:40 PM
May 2014

For those reason republicans have zero credibility on Benghazi and everything else. Their policy is designed to destroy and when they achieve the result time and again they point and say look what happened and act as though they're astonished with the result they planned the entire time. On issue after issue, the republicans represent on purpose failure. They met on inauguration night 2008 to plan the failure of Barack Obama. There is no path to presidential failure without dragging the country along. Al Queda and Bib Laden could never have hoped to achieve such destruction.

mountain grammy

(26,598 posts)
8. Tapper should have kept asking it until the fool answered the question.
Thu May 8, 2014, 09:25 PM
May 2014

After all, how often does Tapper ask a real question?

 

quinnox

(20,600 posts)
12. Whoa, excellent question. Very rare to see that among tv "news people" these days
Thu May 8, 2014, 09:48 PM
May 2014

Probably they gave this guy a stern warning not to do it again after the show went off air.

"What the hell are you doing asking a real question like that??!"

Boomerproud

(7,942 posts)
14. I have a headache.
Thu May 8, 2014, 09:54 PM
May 2014

The only good part was the CIA man's response to the Congresscritter. No regard for the truth. I wish I had his number so one of his staff would have to hear what I have to say to him.

Ikonoklast

(23,973 posts)
22. Rep. Trey Gowdy.
Thu May 8, 2014, 11:52 PM
May 2014

Contact info:

Washington, DC
1404 Longworth HOB
Washington, DC 20515
Phone: (202) 225-6030
Fax: (202) 226-1177
Hours: Monday-Friday 9:00 AM-5:00 PM Eastern time


He won't take e-mails unless you are a constituent, but, please, call away!

markmyword

(180 posts)
47. Thank you Jake!
Fri May 9, 2014, 05:40 PM
May 2014

Thank you, thank you Jake!

Finally someone in the media ASKED A QUESTION.

Let's hope his tough questioning will encourage other reporters to do the same. We can only hope.
Ever since Bush/Cheney ran for office, the reporters looked the other way and NEVER questioned ANYTHING they did.
I hold the media responsible for the election of Bush( stolen election), the war, Wall Street Criminals, NOT holding the Justice Department accountable for prosecuting the Bush administration WAR CRIMINALS, calling out the tea bagger candidates for the nuts they are.
Where is the press when you have these Republicans against gun control, women's rights, climate change, and voting suppression ? The list goes on and on.
So many questions, that should be asked on behalf of the American people.

Cha

(296,848 posts)
57. Really, hope.. I think we all remember some past Jake episodes
Sat May 10, 2014, 08:37 PM
May 2014

that would warrant our surprise now!

nxylas

(6,440 posts)
23. WAAAH! LIBRUL MEDIA BIAS!
Fri May 9, 2014, 10:04 AM
May 2014

This just goes to show how every media outlet except Fox News, and Rush Limbaugh, and The Blaze, and the Washington Times, and the New York Post, and the Wall Street Journal, and the Orange County Register, and the National Review, and Townhall, and Free Republic, and Little Green Footballs, and Powerline, and the Daily Caller and the Drudge Report is TOTALLY IN THE TANK FOR OBAMA!

liberal N proud

(60,332 posts)
27. A reporter asked a tough question of a republican?
Fri May 9, 2014, 10:47 AM
May 2014

I thought we would never see the day again when reports would ask republicans questions they didn't want to answer.

 

Plucketeer

(12,882 posts)
34. Hows about...
Fri May 9, 2014, 11:53 AM
May 2014

if the Dems put together a committee to investigate Iraq? The perpe-traitors are all still alive for interror-agation!

smallcat88

(426 posts)
35. Everything Republicans do these days
Fri May 9, 2014, 11:54 AM
May 2014

is about misdirecting the attention of the American public. Direct attention away from the disasters of the Bush/Cheney legacy and make everything someone else's (Democrats) fault. It's their only hope of ever regaining the White House.

Iliyah

(25,111 posts)
36. GOPers hate FEMA and hate anything that helps the American people
Fri May 9, 2014, 12:11 PM
May 2014

BUT are the very first to put our children in harms way - conflicts/battles/wars, but don't give a damn about the consequences "Veterans".

markmyword

(180 posts)
50. Who Hired Them?
Fri May 9, 2014, 06:00 PM
May 2014

Would someone please tell me how Chuck Todd and David Gregory EVER got jobs as reporters?
As far as I'm concerned , they're not very good at their jobs.

How did they get to be so powerful? Who has pushed them ahead, why?

I thought reporters were IMPARTIAL when they reported a story. Today, we have reporters slanting the news to their political basis and SOCIALIZING with those same politicians they're reporting on.

Both Todd and Gregory should be thrown out of their jobs, for being incompetent.

 

WinkyDink

(51,311 posts)
56. Ask about BEIRUT. GO AFTER ST.RONNIE. "Iraq" offers the "but..other countries...intelligence..."
Sat May 10, 2014, 07:10 AM
May 2014

excuse, BUT BEIRUT DOES NOT.

241 dead Marines.

xocet

(3,871 posts)
66. I tried that with a Republican at the State Fair a few years ago. He got a really confused look
Sun May 11, 2014, 10:33 PM
May 2014

on his face when I said that Reagan had "cut and run" to use their favorite phrase at the time.

He then said/asked, "You're not a Republican, are you?"

He might just then have sensed a tinge of hypocrisy in his way of thinking - at least, that is what I would like to believe.

(Note: All this happened in the Republican Party tent that they set up every year at the State Fair.)

 

sulphurdunn

(6,891 posts)
58. Republicans are like
Sun May 11, 2014, 12:09 AM
May 2014

commodities speculators. The bet on something bad happening, and they'll rig the political market any chance they get to make it bad.

cynzke

(1,254 posts)
59. Gowdy is a Hypocrite.
Sun May 11, 2014, 06:34 AM
May 2014

Here's what this jerk said on Morning Joe last week"

"Even in a culture of hyper-partisanship, certain things…ought to be above politics, like the murder of our four fellow Americans, and whether or not you can trust what any administration – Republican or Democrat – tells you in the aftermath of a tragedy.”



What a joke this man is.

yurbud

(39,405 posts)
68. it wasn't "incorrect" intelligence, it was LIES
Mon May 12, 2014, 01:10 AM
May 2014

The career analysts gave them the straight dope, and Cheney said that wasn't good enough and sent them back to the drawing board.

when those results still didn't say what Cheney wanted, he took out all the caveats and qualifications to make it sound more certain.

I applaud Jack Tapper for going as far as he did though.

Proud Liberal Dem

(24,394 posts)
73. The intelligence was so twisted and manipulated with Iraq
Mon May 12, 2014, 08:08 AM
May 2014

It all looked like balloon animals by the time they were done

Proud Liberal Dem

(24,394 posts)
76. I was dumbfounded how many politicos went along with it
Mon May 12, 2014, 11:05 AM
May 2014

I could have told them it didn't make sense without even having any access to half their information. Of course, many of them felt like they had to go along with it politically back then- in the wake of 9/11/01. I have always thought that the first obvious (at least to me) sign that Iraq wasn't a growing menace should've been the recognition that they had virtually no control over its own airspace. The second obvious place it should have ended was the UN Weapons Inspectors being unable to find anything.

yurbud

(39,405 posts)
78. with NONE of the intel, you could figure out Iraq was no threat to us.
Mon May 12, 2014, 11:27 AM
May 2014

During the entire Cold War, the Soviets didn't nuke us because it would result in their country being wiped out however much damage they did to us.

At best, they could hope to die knowing they did about as much damage to us as we did to them.

For any other country, to nuke us or give terrorists nukes that are detonated here makes about as much sense as trying to go on a shooting rampage in a police station. You make take out a cop or two, but you will certainly end up dead.

In the case of a country nuking us, they might have a few minutes or even seconds to gloat about taking out one or a couple of our cities before their whole country no longer existed.

No matter how evil the leader of any other country might be, none would take an action that would have 100% chance of resulting in national suicide.

Proud Liberal Dem

(24,394 posts)
79. When I thought of countries that were threatening back then (and now)
Mon May 12, 2014, 11:57 AM
May 2014

I think more of NK. Iraq would NEVER cross my mind. I don't feel all that threatened by Iran either. Bush just wanted to get his war on somewhere in the ME and Iraq was clearly the easiest target. After all, we don't attack countries that actually HAVE WMDs.

yurbud

(39,405 posts)
80. even North Korea is at worst playing chicken. It is also telling how we react to them compared to
Mon May 12, 2014, 12:00 PM
May 2014

other "threats."

Their leaders are clearly willing to risk more and more likely have the goods to follow through, but our government does the minimal necessary to respond to their provocations.

We take them about as seriously as Andy Griffith did Otis the Drunk.

"Are you drunk again, Otis? All right then, you know where you need to go."

doxydad

(1,363 posts)
70. Ringleader of the Circus: Gowdy
Mon May 12, 2014, 05:29 AM
May 2014

Regardless of the final outcome, the Tea Hadists have an empty agenda, and Gowdy will look like a complete ass. Charles 'Count Chocula' Krauthhammer has already stated in effect that the Repubs are beating a dead horse. Apparently, they have found a fresher dead horse.

 

AverageJoe90

(10,745 posts)
71. Because they don't actually respect the soldiers.....
Mon May 12, 2014, 07:07 AM
May 2014

And that Iraqis aren't white conservative Christians.....that's why.

Proud Liberal Dem

(24,394 posts)
72. Not to diminish their deaths
Mon May 12, 2014, 07:13 AM
May 2014

But 7000+ ppl died under Bush, some of whom were tortured by our own military and some died in Embassy attacks and there was little or no Republican outrage, certainly not on the order of what we are seeing with Benghazi. Wake me up when Obama's record looks worse.

DirkGently

(12,151 posts)
74. And of course Iraq involved massive, deliberate lies.
Mon May 12, 2014, 08:16 AM
May 2014

We're reduced to comparing actual mistakes to a huge, well-documented, coordinated campaign of lies and intelligence and press manipulation to even draw a comparison. Four deaths to 4,400. A trillion dollar war to one attack.

All because, somehow it's all okay when Republicans do it.
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