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madfloridian

(88,117 posts)
Fri May 9, 2014, 02:39 PM May 2014

FL budget $133 per charter student, $18 per public school student. $1000 per lab school student.

Polk County, FL educators recently learned about these screwed up priorities of the Florida Legislature. I posted about it last week or so at Daily Kos

This latest move toward depriving public schools of resources to build or maintain existing buildings has incurred the anger of people who were not paying attention before. It is so blatant, so obvious.

FL budget: $133 per charter student, $18 per public school student

This is what has been allocated for building and maintenance this year. Even this is far better than what has been given out the last few years. For two years public schools got nothing, and charter schools got millions.

Polk County Public Schools Lose In Facility Allocations

In working out a proposed state budget deal in the wee hours of the morning, state House and Senate leaders divvied up Public Education Capital Outlay money for such things as repairs and renovation this way:

* $4.7 million, or $1,000 per student, for Florida Lab Schools, a small group of schools connected with universities across the state. They have about 4,700 students.

* $1.6 million, or about $133 per student, for Polk charter schools. They have about 12,000 students.

* $1.5 million, or about $18 per student, for the Polk County School District. It
has about 85,000 students, not counting those in charter schools.


After the budget agreement was worked out about 1 a.m. Tuesday, House Appropriations Chairman Seth McKeel, R-Lakeland, was receiving praise for his work to hold some projects together, like $700,000 for the city of Frostproof's water system.


One of the main charters in the county mentioned above is Seth McKeel charter group. It just so happens that Seth McKeel, chair of the House Appropriations, is on the Board of Directors at that charter school that bears his name. People are noticing.

That charter group sends 12.5% of their students back to public schools. They sent a note that read:

“Your child does not meet the criteria to be a McKeel student.”


These charters are getting taxpayer money. They should be required to work with the students and manage their individual needs, just like public schools do.




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FL budget $133 per charter student, $18 per public school student. $1000 per lab school student. (Original Post) madfloridian May 2014 OP
It's always been about the money. hobbit709 May 2014 #1
K&R for more visibility. nt Mnemosyne May 2014 #2
Thank you. It will disappear quickly. madfloridian May 2014 #3
Let's hope not. November can't get here quick enough. Lochloosa May 2014 #9
Well...a friend told me just now...her honor student niece failed the FCAT. She's devastated. madfloridian May 2014 #4
That's terrible. MissB May 2014 #35
I don't think they can graduate with their class despite being an honor student. madfloridian May 2014 #36
Kick .... Thanks, mad wavesofeuphoria May 2014 #5
You are very welcome. madfloridian May 2014 #7
K & R for exposure.. giftedgirl77 May 2014 #6
SO true. I don't understand why more people aren't irate about this? madfloridian May 2014 #8
Kick. Scuba May 2014 #10
...... madfloridian May 2014 #11
Kicking because Democrats should care about public education. madfloridian May 2014 #12
k&r Starry Messenger May 2014 #13
They don't even see the need to be discrete and sneaky any more. lpbk2713 May 2014 #14
Exactly. Seth McKeel got some "splaining" to do I think. madfloridian May 2014 #16
K&R nt TBF May 2014 #15
Charter schools are nothing but an organized heist of the public trough by entities..... marmar May 2014 #17
These figures show that clearly. There can be no argument. madfloridian May 2014 #18
A+ !nt adirondacker May 2014 #34
Where is the florida attorney or law firm to help the citizens scarletlib May 2014 #19
I am hoping there will be lawsuits. madfloridian May 2014 #20
Charter schools are a transfer of public monies to a select few business men. Awful idea. Shrike47 May 2014 #21
Those are both good points, S47, thanks. Mc Mike May 2014 #30
This seems fair. Enthusiast May 2014 #22
Kicking this for the lack of diversity in funding. FloriTexan May 2014 #23
Thanks. Any tornadoes your way today? madfloridian May 2014 #25
k&r any further comment would contain really bad language n/t justhanginon May 2014 #24
Rec, and a kick for visibility. nt HooptieWagon May 2014 #26
.... madfloridian May 2014 #27
K&R liberal_at_heart May 2014 #28
Thanks. madfloridian May 2014 #29
Thank you again and again. Jakes Progress May 2014 #31
I agree. madfloridian May 2014 #32
So sad. Jakes Progress May 2014 #33

madfloridian

(88,117 posts)
4. Well...a friend told me just now...her honor student niece failed the FCAT. She's devastated.
Fri May 9, 2014, 03:21 PM
May 2014

They are already realizing that all her A's won't mean a damn thing now. The test is God.

Oops, she just found out her nephew failed also.

Nothing to do with the OP I guess. Just very upsetting.

MissB

(15,805 posts)
35. That's terrible.
Mon May 12, 2014, 03:13 AM
May 2014

I had to look up the FCAT (I'm in a northern state). Looks like students can substitute SAT reading and math scores if they fail the FCAT three times - 280 on reading and 370 on math (both of those sections are out of 800). Hopefully your friend's niece and nephew can use those options.

madfloridian

(88,117 posts)
36. I don't think they can graduate with their class despite being an honor student.
Mon May 12, 2014, 08:29 AM
May 2014

So for now this is the first time they have failed.

 

giftedgirl77

(4,713 posts)
6. K & R for exposure..
Fri May 9, 2014, 03:22 PM
May 2014

This is some bullshit, it's nothing but a money laundering scheme at the expense of our kids.

lpbk2713

(42,754 posts)
14. They don't even see the need to be discrete and sneaky any more.
Fri May 9, 2014, 04:28 PM
May 2014



They perform their robberies right in the wide open spaces
while everyone (especially Scott) is looking.

marmar

(77,077 posts)
17. Charter schools are nothing but an organized heist of the public trough by entities.....
Fri May 9, 2014, 04:31 PM
May 2014

..... that don't have the best interest of the kids as their No. 1 priority.


scarletlib

(3,411 posts)
19. Where is the florida attorney or law firm to help the citizens
Fri May 9, 2014, 05:20 PM
May 2014

I do believe there is a constutional issue (florida constitutuion) about giving all kids a quality education. florida experts in the forum?

madfloridian

(88,117 posts)
20. I am hoping there will be lawsuits.
Fri May 9, 2014, 05:24 PM
May 2014

Before I retired two different parents were filing lawsuits to find out why their gifted children failed the FCAT. It's been going on a while, just hasn't been getting publicity.

Today in Florida there are many heartbroken seniors who can't graduate if they failed the FCAT even if they have straight As.

Shrike47

(6,913 posts)
21. Charter schools are a transfer of public monies to a select few business men. Awful idea.
Fri May 9, 2014, 05:26 PM
May 2014

And I agree that the charter schools, if we must have them, should be required to keep the unusual (and more expensive) students. They always deny their intention to dump off troubling kids on the public schools, but their actions tell the story.

Mc Mike

(9,114 posts)
30. Those are both good points, S47, thanks.
Sat May 10, 2014, 10:18 AM
May 2014

What gets me furious is the blatantly hypocritical, self-contradictory, double-thinking double-stantard in the definition of 'business' here.

When they sell 'charter', they say public education should be run more efficiently, like a business, with free market competition driving efficiency, innovation, reform. That definition of 'business' is used to get public ed funds into private hands.

Once the public funds are privatized, it's time to treat the 'business' according to real-world standards for well-connected sweetheart government contractors. They keep getting caught lying about their performance, cooking the books on test results, wasting money, stealing, employing unqualified personnel, failing the students. Ignore the larceny, embezzlement, fraud, and failure. They only failed their 5 year performance review because we aren't giving this great privatization idea enough time to succeed. This 'business' just needs a government bail-out, the taxpayers can foot the bill.

Anyone with an ounce of sense knew they were lying when they spouted off their free-market 'business' malarky to 'reform' education.

madfloridian

(88,117 posts)
27. ....
Fri May 9, 2014, 11:15 PM
May 2014

Thanks for that kick. This is so important, but it's just not going to hang around long.

To me it is shocking to see these figures. To most, not so much.

Jakes Progress

(11,122 posts)
31. Thank you again and again.
Sat May 10, 2014, 03:40 PM
May 2014

But getting DU excited about what the republicans and this administration are doing to children and our public education system is the definition of lost cause.

No other issue has made me more cynical. I tried fighting that cynicism for quite a while, but every time something came up, I was whelmed by the apathy and hypocrisy of those who should be doing better. Meh.

madfloridian

(88,117 posts)
32. I agree.
Sat May 10, 2014, 04:30 PM
May 2014

It's a lost cause. This administration has not made one move to reach out to public school teachers at all. Not even with all the protests and anger from teachers and parents. They simply do not care.

And therefore it's mostly okay with most of the Democrats who used to oppose these Bush policies when Bush did them.

Jakes Progress

(11,122 posts)
33. So sad.
Sun May 11, 2014, 11:22 PM
May 2014

I also just read about the administration's plans to gut the Fulbright Scholarship program.

We can all agree that the republicans are horrible. But if those on this site - of all places - can't agree that most of the things this administration does is far right of things nixon and reagan would have done. And if any republican tried them, this site would be up in arms calling for mass protests. People who call themselves Democrats can be just as hypocritical as republicans.

I originally came on DU for the succor of like-minded progressives. I know they are here, and I know the reagan-democrats and celibritats are a minority, but it still gets me that so many are so willing to allow any right-wing travesty to take place because Obama supports it.

Color me disappointed. Or pissed. Or disgusted. Or . . .

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