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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region Forumsthe appalling hypocrisy of all of those crying tears over the kidnapped girls
Yes it is an atrocious act, and if I could personally douse the Boko Harum with gasoline and toss a match, I would.
BUT
"An estimated 20.9 million men, women and children are trafficked for commercial sex or forced labor around the world today." *
When have you heard any politician, actress or journalist talk about this?
The sex industry is big business, generating $760 million a year.
The vast majority of people enjoying the fruits of trafficking are wealthy Europeans and Asians.
Which is why the world closes its eyes to this.
*http://www.polarisproject.org/human-trafficking/international-trafficking
Sheldon Cooper
(3,724 posts)Violet_Crumble
(35,961 posts)And if anyone has dared to pay attention to the kidnapped Nigerian girls, then they're just big hypocritical fakers shedding crocodile tears. Can't quite get my head around that sort of thought process...
PotatoChip
(3,186 posts)JackRiddler
(24,979 posts)of human trafficking, which is the actual problem that affects so many millions of people, but at the same time you are talking narrowly about one particularly horrible crime that happens to justify a possible U.S. military intervention in an area where there are supposed geopolitical "interests" of the U.S., then it's not going to help the real problem.
Blue_Tires
(55,445 posts)Just like how I was told (on this site, no less) I didn't have the right to be upset over Trayvon Martin without commenting on every single black-on-black shooting on record...
itsrobert
(14,157 posts)It appears.
msanthrope
(37,549 posts)krawhitham
(4,641 posts)Voice for Peace
(13,141 posts)XRubicon
(2,212 posts)Violet_Crumble
(35,961 posts)She cares a lot!
H2O Man
(73,528 posts)This is a fine example of the danger posed by taking shortcuts to rational thought.
Squinch
(50,935 posts)pinboy3niner
(53,339 posts)lamp_shade
(14,826 posts)maddezmom
(135,060 posts)-snip-
The President called on everyone to step up the fight against trafficking. And we have. Since last year, we have renewed sanctions on some of the worst perpetrators of human trafficking. We have released for public comment the Victims Services Strategic Action Plan. We have partnered with organizations and groups that help women and children escape their abusers. And we have expanded our interagency task force to include enforcement partners such as the FBI and the Immigration and Customs Enforcement agency, along with many other Federal agencies.
Now, we are seeing the fruits of our labor. More nations around the world are passing and enforcing anti-trafficking laws. Here in the United States, we are charging a record number of predators with human trafficking violations. We are joining together with faith-based and neighborhood organizations to maximize resources and outcomes.
And were particularly excited about the cutting-edge technology thats being developed to end trafficking.
At yesterdays forum, we highlighted new technology that is being used to help victims, connect them to services, and expose traffickers. We saw exciting demonstrations of some of these tools focused on reaching victims where they are online and on their phones -- including the Polaris Projects new texting capability for their National Human Trafficking Hotline, a new victim outreach tool from FAIR Girls, and Thorns new technology-based tool that helps law enforcement better identify child sex trafficking victims in online environments.
Tanuki
(14,918 posts)[trafficking] ought to concern every person, because its a debasement of our common humanity. It ought to concern every community, because it tears at the social fabric. It ought to concern every business, because it distorts markets. It ought to concern every nation, because it endangers public health and fuels violence and organized crime. Im talking about the injustice, the outrage, of human trafficking, which must be called by its true namemodern slavery.
As part of his announcement, the president outlined several initiatives that his administration will undertake in the fight against human trafficking. These actions include providing new tools and training to help law enforcement and other government agencies identify and assist the victims of human trafficking, and increased social services and legal assistance for these victims. The announcement also directed the Presidents Interagency Task Force to Monitor and Combat Trafficking in Persons to develop the first-ever federal strategic action plan to strengthen services for trafficking victims.
For my part, Ive been active in the efforts of the White House Office of Science and Technology Policy and the Council on Women and Girls, serving on two committees and leading a third. As a group, weve brought together victims advocates, law enforcement leaders, technology companies, and researchers to brainstorm on three key issues: (1) how to share information more effectively with law enforcement; (2) how to harness the power of the Internet to reach victims; and (3) how to best provide victims of child sex trafficking with the help they need. "
maddezmom
(135,060 posts)But somehow I doubt it....just manufactured outrage, IMO.
surrealAmerican
(11,360 posts)It is now "hypocrisy" to speak out about a crisis when other problems exist?
By that reasoning, wouldn't it be hypocrisy to speak out about human trafficking without speaking out about the crushing poverty that is a root cause of human trafficking?
The word hypocrisy is misused here. It would be hypocrisy if Michelle Obama was somehow involved in kidnapping and spoke against the Boko Harum kidnapping, but she isn't.
SidDithers
(44,228 posts)Sid
MohRokTah
(15,429 posts)treestar
(82,383 posts)snot
(10,520 posts)None of us want to minimize what's happened to these girls; and I find it hard to believe that anyone who suggests otherwise is speaking in good faith.
But these girls are the tip of the iceberg w.r.t. what's happening around the world, on a regular basis. Only our lack of imagination can account for, without excusing, our failure to raise just as great an outcry for them, every day.
By all means, we should continue to push for help for these particular girls; but that should not be the end of it.
Squinch
(50,935 posts)MohRokTah
(15,429 posts)This site has ODS.
Inkfreak
(1,695 posts)No it doesn't. Unless you define the whole site by a few posters.
spanone
(135,816 posts)lamp_shade
(14,826 posts)treestar
(82,383 posts)There are millions of problems in the world, some of which you don't know about. When you find out about them and condemn them, can we call you a hypocrite too?
In fact to follow your logic, we have to diss anyone who is mentioning those girls now.
What is wrong with caring about those girls?
JaneyVee
(19,877 posts)Hypocrisy would be her railing against sex trafficking while engaging in it.
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msanthrope
(37,549 posts)Hekate
(90,632 posts)Actually I have read/heard any number of people in the public eye (such as politicians and actresses) speaking out about human trafficking in recent years.
OKNancy
(41,832 posts)Posts like this are what make DU so frustrating to read at times.
maddezmom
(135,060 posts)MADem
(135,425 posts)This is just an absurd construct.
Unless Michelle Obama stands up and gripes about EVERY issue, she isn't allowed to stand up and talk about a bunch of vicious, brutalizing nuts kidnapping HUNDREDS of girls from their SCHOOL at once fell swoop.
OK. That makes a lot of sense....only no, it makes no sense at all.
The link is fine--the rather noxious and toxic narrative leading up to it, not so fine. In fact, this post is insulting on a number of levels. The thread starter has google, and can see for him or herself how many public figures have spoken out about the issue of human trafficking. Further, the link provided in the original post talks about the legislative initiatives in individual states--who passes legislation? Flying monkeys? Why no--POLITICIANS pass legislation, so they are, apparently, involved in this issue, at least to the point where they pass LAWS to combat trafficking.
It's times like this I wish we had a downvote capability.
msanthrope
(37,549 posts)Hypocrisy??
Inkfreak
(1,695 posts)Whisp
(24,096 posts)BainsBane
(53,027 posts)while Secretary of State.
I am one who believes far more attention needs to be paid to modern-day slavery. That, however, does not make the First Lady a hypocrite for caring about the Nigerian girls.
JoePhilly
(27,787 posts)Strange that the OP cares so much but didn't know that.
alcibiades_mystery
(36,437 posts)combating human trafficking, which is why they're all avoiding your laughable thread. Generally speaking, you'd get a few dozen "Amens" from the ODS chorus (which is no doubt what you were expecting), but your premise is so dumb and outside the facts that you couldn't even hit that easy target.
A pathetic effort.
saltpoint
(50,986 posts)Dr. Strange
(25,919 posts)Where the hell have you been? Long time no see!
saltpoint
(50,986 posts)Been here and there mostly. Good to bump into you.
Cha
(297,117 posts)is what I had to take when I saw your post.
saltpoint~
saltpoint
(50,986 posts)It's been a while. Hope you're thriving out there in this weird world.
Good to see ya.
Blue_In_AK
(46,436 posts)I thought you were MIA. in fact, I mentioned your name in that thread about who do we miss and why.
Well, I'm very happy to know that you're still around.
saltpoint
(50,986 posts)wishes. It's a volatile landscape out there. Very good to know you're still kicking around in cyberspace on the interweb tubes.
greatauntoftriplets
(175,731 posts)Except that was achieved in March. This is close.
KittyWampus
(55,894 posts)doesn't mean things don't happen.
http://www.americanbar.org/publications/judges_journal/2013/winter/president_obamas_speech_on_human_trafficking.html
Vattel
(9,289 posts)because he didn't first tweet about the victims of the kidnapping" post was unfair to Greenwald.
KittyWampus
(55,894 posts)Using the abduction of young girls as a reason to take a cheap swipe at US interventionism is disgusting.
Our country has enough instances of interventionism that we can argue over without using the abduction of a large group of young girls as yet another instance.
Vattel
(9,289 posts)Do you see the connection?
gollygee
(22,336 posts)edhopper
(33,556 posts)but racist.
It's only because the perpetrators are big, dark black men.
I hate it when privileged white Americans only see a problem when a scary minority is invovled.
Le Taz Hot
(22,271 posts)Just FYI.
etherealtruth
(22,165 posts)To be clear, likening Mrs. Obama's statements against Boko Haram's kidnapping of Nigerian girls to crocodile tears and hypocrisy is asinine.
http://www.state.gov/j/tip/response/usg/
The Presidents Interagency Task Force to Monitor and Combat Trafficking (PITF) is a cabinet-level entity created by the Trafficking Victims Protection Act of 2000 (TVPA) to coordinate federal efforts to combat trafficking in persons. The PITF meets annually and is chaired by the Secretary of State. On March 15, 2012, President Obama issued a statement on the meeting of the PITF. He called on his cabinet to strengthen federal efforts to combat human trafficking and to expand partnerships with civil society and the private sector.
http://humantraffickingexists.tumblr.com/post/4025139254/top-10-celebrities-fighting-human-trafficking
What happens when you combine sex, violence, human rights, and the chance to pose with adorable minority children? Celebrity activists! Like most social justice causes, human trafficking has a number of celebrity activists embracing the cause and lending their fame and fortune to the fight for freedom. Here are some of the most active ....
Obviously, not nearly enough is being done, but linking this somehow to Michelle Obama and hypocrisy is dishonest and stupid
pinboy3niner
(53,339 posts)handmade34
(22,756 posts)geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)MineralMan
(146,284 posts)in your screed against Michelle Obama.
saltpoint
(50,986 posts)saltpoint
(50,986 posts)GreenPartyVoter
(72,377 posts)crisis resonates with Mrs. Obama, but that doesn't mean she doesn't care about any of the other atrocities that have occurred.
handmade34
(22,756 posts)Brigid
(17,621 posts)Amaril
(1,267 posts)notadmblnd
(23,720 posts)There are hundreds if not thousands of horrible injustices in life and it's humanly impossible for one person to advocate for the end to each and every one.
Rowdyboy
(22,057 posts)maddezmom
(135,060 posts)pinboy3niner
(53,339 posts)Talk about hypocrisy.
The_Commonist
(2,518 posts)Other than going to a website or two and maybe signing a few on-line petitions?
What have you done, and what can I do today to end human trafficking?
Have you quit your job in order to go up against the Russian mob, have you shuttered any of the Bangkok whorehouses, how many Bangladeshi "guest workers" have you "liberated" in Dubai?
Please give us the details of your actions, so we can emulate you, and work towards solving this only problem in the world that matters. Thanks in advance!
denbot
(9,899 posts)Asinine post.
Response to ellenrr (Original post)
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MineralMan
(146,284 posts)that photoshop job. I saw it posted by a right-winger on FB this morning. I see that you have taken the bait.
Great Job, Brownie!
mcar
(42,298 posts)here on DU. Just some simple policy disagreements. Honest and for true.
sheshe2
(83,728 posts)Jacks post was disgusting. When you have nothing, then beat up on Flotus! This place is becoming unbearable with Obama hate!
MineralMan
(146,284 posts)Obamas.
Mz Pip
(27,434 posts)There has been quite a lot of attention given to sex trafficking. This particular case is getting so much attention because of the method of the kidnapping high profile statements of the perpetrators.
Criticizing Michelle Obama for taking a public stand on this atrocity is disingenuous. One can argue that "Bring Back Our Girls" can refer to more than just those kidnapped in Nigeria by Boko Harum.
sarisataka
(18,570 posts)In fact Mrs Obama should put on a hair shirt and live as a hermit for not personally ending the world's sex trafficking
Arugula Latte
(50,566 posts)LadyHawkAZ
(6,199 posts)because if you can't save 'em all, you shouldn't save any!
for the impaired
Puglover
(16,380 posts)and applied the same standard initially to pretty much everyone this OP could have risen to mega stupid.
As it is, it's simple hit and run flamebait.
Fail.
Drunken Irishman
(34,857 posts)Recursion
(56,582 posts)Other than a Superbowl ad, several celebrity PSAs, and... oh, right, Mrs. Obama's own speeches about it?
johnp3907
(3,730 posts)<a href="http://imgur.com/LsnT874"><img src="" title="Hosted by imgur.com"/></a>
Just to be safe:
Autumn
(45,042 posts)She has every right to voice her opinion on this event. As to all the others crying croc tears over these girls, maybe people are just unaware of the stats you posted.
You took a very good event worth discussing and poisoned it by mentioning Michelle Obama and pissing off everyone because all they see is that you dissed her. You should delete this or edit out that part.
Tarheel_Dem
(31,229 posts)rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)wouldnt have bothered responding otherwise. This is a serious problem and your mention of the first lady derailed it.
WinkyDink
(51,311 posts)Autumn
(45,042 posts)Thanks for the edit and for posting this.
FSogol
(45,470 posts)BainsBane
(53,027 posts)It targeted Michelle Obama as the hypocrite.
NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)Katashi_itto
(10,175 posts)PragmaticLiberal
(904 posts)A State Dept. representative was talking about this very issue last week on MSNBC.
stevenleser
(32,886 posts)The only think you have done here besides ineffectual disruption, is to showcase your own ignorance of the facts.
As many posters have said, the administration has been taking human trafficking very seriously.
lame54
(35,281 posts)We should just shut our mouths and turn our backs because that is the best thing for the -"An estimated 20.9 million men, women and children are trafficked for commercial sex or forced labor around the world today."
Thanks for bringing common sense back
Wait Wut
(8,492 posts)You've been raked over the coals enough for this post. I'm going to do my best to be less accusatory and try to explain the positives of all those tears.
Every cause needs a 'poster child' to draw attention. It may sound really horrible, but these young women have become just that. Not that everyone doesn't really care about each and every single one of those terrified women. Working with child abuse/neglect prevention and other very worthy causes has taught me that. Post a long diatribe on the horrors of child abuse and then post a picture of an abused child with just a few words and see which receives more attention. Humanity is beautiful, but also very visual and a little shallow. Let's not forget one more thing about these young women...they were trying to get an education. Along with human trafficking, young girls and boys are refused an education for many reasons. Women, more often.
While we hope for their safe return, this is your opportunity to bring attention to human trafficking and the freedom of education for young women in countries like Nigeria. Maybe you can help save their little sisters or the daughters they may have someday. In the meantime, let that media light shine it's brightest on each of their faces...
...and bring our girls home.
Autumn
(45,042 posts)Beautiful post, beautiful.
Wait Wut
(8,492 posts)Whisp
(24,096 posts)jesus, jury and SOP lets this stand? wtf.
such standards!
La Lioness Priyanka
(53,866 posts)1. law and order SVU
2. michelle obama
there is a tumblr list about celebs supporting action against human trafficing
http://humantraffickingexists.tumblr.com/post/4025139254/top-10-celebrities-fighting-human-trafficking
http://act.mtv.com/posts/top-celebs-fighting-modern-day-slavery/
sheshe2
(83,728 posts)Shame on you!
txwhitedove
(3,928 posts)and sex slavery, then FFS rejoice!!! It's about damn time.
ellenrr
(3,864 posts)WinkyDink
(51,311 posts)The Ricky Martin Foundation, e.g.
http://www.rickymartinfoundation.org/en/
We have been privileged to partner with groups such as UNICEF, Habitat for Humanity, The Protection Project at Johns Hopkins University, the University of Puerto Rico, Save the Children, RTL Foundation, The InterAmerican Development Bank, The Trafficking In Persons Office, SAP, Doral Bank and Microsoft.
We joined forces with the InterAmerican Development Bank and the International Organization for Migration to launch Call and Live, the first regional campaign to combat human trafficking in the Americas. Lives were saved. We received thousands of phone calls through our hot line and were able to help launch hundreds of investigations in five countries.
Unfortunately, atrocities committed against children have reached epidemic proportions on the Internet. To prevent these crimes, we launched Navega Protegido.org, an online bilingual child safety website, that provides tools to protect children from pornography and sexual exploitation.
More recently, we published Human Trafficking in Puerto Rico: An Invisible Challenge in alliance with the University of Puerto Rico and The Protection Project. The pioneering investigation documents that too many minors in Puerto Rico are at risk of becoming exploited as sex slaves, as slave labor or used in pornography.
NuclearDem
(16,184 posts)aren't also concerned about the epidemic of human trafficking?
Ken Burch
(50,254 posts)Do you really see it as "either/or"?
At least it's progress that the media cares about kidnapped girls who aren't white and blonde for once(other than Nancy Grace, of course, who won't give this story two minutes because Natalee Freaking Holloway isn't involved).