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steve2470

(37,457 posts)
Sun May 11, 2014, 09:34 AM May 2014

Poll: Prestigious Colleges Won't Make You Happier In Life Or Work

http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way/2014/05/06/308382912/poll-prestigious-colleges-wont-make-you-happier-in-life-or-work

There's plenty of anxiety in the U.S. over getting into a top college. But a suggests that, later in life, it doesn't matter nearly as much as we think. In fact, when you ask college graduates whether they're "engaged" with their work or "thriving" in all aspects of their lives, their responses don't vary one bit whether they went to a prestigious college or not.

The surprising findings come in a survey of 29,650 college graduates of all ages by Gallup pollsters working with researchers at Purdue University. The poll asked graduates a range of questions designed to measure how well they are doing in life across factors such as income and "engagement" in their jobs and careers.

The survey set a high bar. It found that 39 percent of college grads overall say they're "engaged" at work (which is ). And, while almost 5 in 6 self-report doing great in at least one sphere — whether sense of purpose, financial security, physical health, close relationships or community pride — only 11 percent are "thriving" in all five areas of well-being.

And here's the kicker.

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Poll: Prestigious Colleges Won't Make You Happier In Life Or Work (Original Post) steve2470 May 2014 OP
But the parents' feelings will be hurt BeyondGeography May 2014 #1
Yeah in the real world the only time where you went to college really matters treestar May 2014 #2
societal connections made while in college do matter, IMO. KittyWampus May 2014 #4
You can make those connections for free... lumberjack_jeff May 2014 #6
I have zero treestar May 2014 #7
It also matters when you're applying for a job. Or grad school. Igel May 2014 #8
I have a friend PasadenaTrudy May 2014 #3
Interesting article. Especially since the student debt load is also linked to happiness riderinthestorm May 2014 #5
How else are we to get ready to be life long slaves to corporations? L0oniX May 2014 #9

BeyondGeography

(39,370 posts)
1. But the parents' feelings will be hurt
Sun May 11, 2014, 10:09 AM
May 2014

It's so much more fun to brag about your kid's college on Facebook when it's a big name.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
2. Yeah in the real world the only time where you went to college really matters
Sun May 11, 2014, 10:14 AM
May 2014

is when you are applying to get in.

 

lumberjack_jeff

(33,224 posts)
6. You can make those connections for free...
Sun May 11, 2014, 11:06 AM
May 2014

By running for city council or volunteering at the United way.

Igel

(35,300 posts)
8. It also matters when you're applying for a job. Or grad school.
Sun May 11, 2014, 11:25 AM
May 2014

After that, the name doesn't much matter.

What happens, though, is that Ivy League schools typically have more competent grads. They have better admits, the admits make better students, and when they graduate they've learned more. The &quot academically) rich get richer" and the academically poor, by comparison, get poorer.

The school name is indexical to student and graduate quality, by and large. If Harvard started to turn out academic slugs that couldn't write a coherent sentence Harvard's rep would drop over the course of a decade.

Some grads from top ranked schools are dolts and flop. Some grads or even drop-outs from bottom-ranked schools are brilliant and, if they get their foot in the door, do well. A small number of counterexamples test a generalization's accuracy (aka "the exception proves the rule&quot but don't disprove the generalization. It's scary that GPA and school ranking are largely predictive of career and income; that metrics for admits (GPA and SAT/ACT) are largely predictive of graduation GPA; that middle school metrics are largely predictive of college attendance and choice. When you do all the math, you get nearly 50% accuracy if you look at a kid in 6th grade. Considering the range of possibilities, that's really scary. Even if it does follow quite reasonably.


Above a certain minimum level of income and education, a lot of things don't matter. What matters after that is finding a way to not stress out because others are doing better than you or have more than you, or drawing satisfaction because others are doing worse (there's a symmetry there, and it's not a good one). Measures of perceived stress show that upper middle class and poor teenagers have the same levels of stress. Single, relatively poor mothers and two-parent middle-class mothers are equally happy. You adjust your "sensors" to yield about the same results given radically different inputs.

PasadenaTrudy

(3,998 posts)
3. I have a friend
Sun May 11, 2014, 10:21 AM
May 2014

who is 37 and is going off to college. Just for junior and senior year. It is all about rankings and prestige for her. She has been accepted at UC Berkeley and UC Irvine. I think she will choose Berkeley. She is majoring in studio art and is more concerned about prestige than the actual art program from what I can tell. She is dirt poor so luckily grants and scholarships will likely cover most of it if not all. I wish her the best!

 

riderinthestorm

(23,272 posts)
5. Interesting article. Especially since the student debt load is also linked to happiness
Sun May 11, 2014, 10:45 AM
May 2014

From the last paragraph - the summary is that you'll be happier graduating from Podunk U debt free than being in big debt from a big name school:

In the meantime, the take-home message for students is clear, says Brandon Busteed, who leads Gallup's education work: "If you can go to Podunk U debt free vs. Harvard for $100,000, go to Podunk. And concentrate on what you do when you get there."
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