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http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way/2014/05/06/308382912/poll-prestigious-colleges-wont-make-you-happier-in-life-or-workThere's plenty of anxiety in the U.S. over getting into a top college. But a suggests that, later in life, it doesn't matter nearly as much as we think. In fact, when you ask college graduates whether they're "engaged" with their work or "thriving" in all aspects of their lives, their responses don't vary one bit whether they went to a prestigious college or not.
The surprising findings come in a survey of 29,650 college graduates of all ages by Gallup pollsters working with researchers at Purdue University. The poll asked graduates a range of questions designed to measure how well they are doing in life across factors such as income and "engagement" in their jobs and careers.
The survey set a high bar. It found that 39 percent of college grads overall say they're "engaged" at work (which is ). And, while almost 5 in 6 self-report doing great in at least one sphere whether sense of purpose, financial security, physical health, close relationships or community pride only 11 percent are "thriving" in all five areas of well-being.
And here's the kicker.
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BeyondGeography
(39,370 posts)It's so much more fun to brag about your kid's college on Facebook when it's a big name.
treestar
(82,383 posts)is when you are applying to get in.
KittyWampus
(55,894 posts)lumberjack_jeff
(33,224 posts)By running for city council or volunteering at the United way.
treestar
(82,383 posts)I'm not still in touch with anyone from college.
Igel
(35,300 posts)After that, the name doesn't much matter.
What happens, though, is that Ivy League schools typically have more competent grads. They have better admits, the admits make better students, and when they graduate they've learned more. The " academically) rich get richer" and the academically poor, by comparison, get poorer.
The school name is indexical to student and graduate quality, by and large. If Harvard started to turn out academic slugs that couldn't write a coherent sentence Harvard's rep would drop over the course of a decade.
Some grads from top ranked schools are dolts and flop. Some grads or even drop-outs from bottom-ranked schools are brilliant and, if they get their foot in the door, do well. A small number of counterexamples test a generalization's accuracy (aka "the exception proves the rule" but don't disprove the generalization. It's scary that GPA and school ranking are largely predictive of career and income; that metrics for admits (GPA and SAT/ACT) are largely predictive of graduation GPA; that middle school metrics are largely predictive of college attendance and choice. When you do all the math, you get nearly 50% accuracy if you look at a kid in 6th grade. Considering the range of possibilities, that's really scary. Even if it does follow quite reasonably.
Above a certain minimum level of income and education, a lot of things don't matter. What matters after that is finding a way to not stress out because others are doing better than you or have more than you, or drawing satisfaction because others are doing worse (there's a symmetry there, and it's not a good one). Measures of perceived stress show that upper middle class and poor teenagers have the same levels of stress. Single, relatively poor mothers and two-parent middle-class mothers are equally happy. You adjust your "sensors" to yield about the same results given radically different inputs.
PasadenaTrudy
(3,998 posts)who is 37 and is going off to college. Just for junior and senior year. It is all about rankings and prestige for her. She has been accepted at UC Berkeley and UC Irvine. I think she will choose Berkeley. She is majoring in studio art and is more concerned about prestige than the actual art program from what I can tell. She is dirt poor so luckily grants and scholarships will likely cover most of it if not all. I wish her the best!
riderinthestorm
(23,272 posts)From the last paragraph - the summary is that you'll be happier graduating from Podunk U debt free than being in big debt from a big name school:
In the meantime, the take-home message for students is clear, says Brandon Busteed, who leads Gallup's education work: "If you can go to Podunk U debt free vs. Harvard for $100,000, go to Podunk. And concentrate on what you do when you get there."