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MattSh

(3,714 posts)
Tue May 13, 2014, 11:55 AM May 2014

The Farce Is Complete: Joe Biden's Son Joins Board Of Largest Ukraine Gas Producer | Zero Hedge

Last edited Tue May 13, 2014, 12:50 PM - Edit history (1)

R. Hunter Biden will be in charge of the Holdings’ legal unit and will provide support for the Company among international organizations. On his new appointment, he commented: “Burisma’s track record of innovations and industry leadership in the field of natural gas means that it can be a strong driver of a strong economy in Ukraine. As a new member of the Board, I believe that my assistance in consulting the Company on matters of transparency, corporate governance and responsibility, international expansion and other priorities will contribute to the economy and benefit the people of Ukraine.”

The Chairman of the Board of Directors of Burisma Holdings, Mr. Alan Apter, noted: “The company’s strategy is aimed at the strongest concentration of professional staff and the introduction of best corporate practices, and we’re delighted that Mr. Biden is joining us to help us achieve these goals.”

R. Hunter Biden is a counsel to Boies, Schiller & Flexner LLP, a national law firm based in New York, USA, which served in cases including “Bush vs. Gore”, and “U.S. vs. Microsoft”. He is one of the co-founders and a managing partner of the investment advisory company Rosemont Seneca Partners, as well as chairman of the board of Rosemont Seneca Advisors. He is an Adjunct Professor at Georgetown University’s Masters Program in the School of Foreign Service.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-05-13/farce-complete-joe-bidens-son-joins-board-largest-ukraine-gas-producer

ON EDIT: Well well well, Burisma Holdings, Ukraine’s largest private gas producer is reporting the same thing on their website.

http://burisma.com/hunter-biden-joins-the-team-of-burisma-holdings/

Who have thought to look there?

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The Farce Is Complete: Joe Biden's Son Joins Board Of Largest Ukraine Gas Producer | Zero Hedge (Original Post) MattSh May 2014 OP
Upon further scrutiny, I agree with okaawhatever below... ChisolmTrailDem May 2014 #1
Because..... Tommy_Carcetti May 2014 #2
Perfect!!! nt msanthrope May 2014 #9
oops! oldandhappy May 2014 #3
Why aren't any reputable sources posting this story? Only pro-Russia media sources are printing okaawhatever May 2014 #4
Guess Obama should be careful stepping out of the car, Benton D Struckcheon May 2014 #5
Waiting For Someone To Complete The Circle, Sir The Magistrate May 2014 #8
Oh my god. Joe Biden is...... Tommy_Carcetti May 2014 #11
You Know What Scares Me, Sir? The Magistrate May 2014 #12
Here is the Press Release... Clinton/Obama/MBNA Bank/US Global Leadership Coalition..etc..etc. KoKo May 2014 #16
Fortunately, Ma'am, You Did Not Complete The Circle The Magistrate May 2014 #20
A most wicked response, sir.. KoKo May 2014 #25
ugh jollyreaper2112 May 2014 #52
Why? I really can't think of anything more non-offensive. NCTraveler May 2014 #63
Really? jollyreaper2112 May 2014 #72
I think it would be hilarilous.... Jeff In Milwaukee May 2014 #73
It may be no big deal to you, this western-funded and supported brutal coup, polly7 May 2014 #15
Agree.....and imagine there will be more revelations to come. KoKo May 2014 #22
The "brutal coup" came after Yanukovich campaigned on "Ukraine's integration with the EU remains pampango May 2014 #31
That is a very decent analysis of the situation. truedelphi May 2014 #56
Found a video that says Ukraine, etc. is a contrived plot between.... Wait for it... freshwest May 2014 #43
Doomed! DOOMED! Doomed.... Benton D Struckcheon May 2014 #53
Haha! I was expecting Space Invaders or something. Well done skit there. freshwest May 2014 #55
The original source is Burisma's press release. pa28 May 2014 #6
Here...from the Gas Company who Hired Him... I think it's a Fracking Outfit...from their KoKo May 2014 #13
The Azov-Kuban Basin pretty much went with Crimea; Dneiper-Donets in in the contested East FarCenter May 2014 #21
That's the wrong question... MattSh May 2014 #17
And that's the right question. Comrade Grumpy May 2014 #34
Because it is not big or important news? tritsofme May 2014 #48
She was handing out cookies, dammit! Cookies! Tommy_Carcetti May 2014 #50
The wheels are coming off.... go west young man May 2014 #58
As I mentioned in my other reply to you, it was an op-ed simply repeating old talking points. Tommy_Carcetti May 2014 #65
Sickening. k&r for exposure. n/t Laelth May 2014 #7
It gets worse...See Post #16...The Press Release....n/t KoKo May 2014 #19
Interesting that ProSense May 2014 #10
Quit! You can't fight spray paint with facts! freshwest May 2014 #24
Hahaha. pa28 May 2014 #14
What's farcical about a corporate lawyer joining yet another corporate board? Recursion May 2014 #18
Stop it, you're ruining the circlejerk! Ikonoklast May 2014 #23
But lawyers are teh evil!!! nt msanthrope May 2014 #26
Hey, don't leave me out of a good evil lawyer festival! jberryhill May 2014 #29
I got accused today of wanting more federal judges so my clients would pay me more. msanthrope May 2014 #30
Maybe that's part of our problem. Who needs a bunch of parasites running things? Comrade Grumpy May 2014 #37
Where were good folks like you when Abraham Lincoln was running? jberryhill May 2014 #54
Glenn Greenwald was an attorney. Ikonoklast May 2014 #57
the devil as they say, is in the details TheSarcastinator May 2014 #27
Then spell it out for me, because I really don't see it Recursion May 2014 #44
He must be really talented. Hassin Bin Sober May 2014 #28
Being on a board doesn't require "talent"; you don't really do anything Recursion May 2014 #60
The "farce" is that ProSense May 2014 #32
You're killing the messenger. I'm awaiting your attack on the actual press release. Comrade Grumpy May 2014 #35
The "messenger" ProSense May 2014 #40
Biden's son hired by Ukrainian Frack Corp. JackRiddler May 2014 #70
K&R bvar22 May 2014 #33
This move is so "in your face" that it's now more than a glimpse.. KoKo May 2014 #39
Naomi Klein's Disaster Capitalism on a Global Scale. bvar22 May 2014 #46
"Burisma Holdings Limited engages in oil and gas exploration and production ... The company struggle4progress May 2014 #36
Money trumps peace! RandiFan1290 May 2014 #38
Oh brother. MohRokTah May 2014 #41
Benghazi!! Puzzledtraveller May 2014 #42
This may be one of the most coherent posts War Horse May 2014 #45
Hey everyone, remember this guy? Tommy_Carcetti May 2014 #47
+100! FSogol May 2014 #51
You left out the 'Jewish' part of all of this conspiracy with Nuland. That train's never late. n/t freshwest May 2014 #59
You registered a screen name on DU... JackRiddler May 2014 #62
Hey Jack, got me that evidence of a Western sponsored coup yet? Tommy_Carcetti May 2014 #64
It's coming...slowly...but surely. go west young man May 2014 #66
My question to Mr. Riddler was as to his claim (and yours) was whether a coup occurred in February. Tommy_Carcetti May 2014 #67
Thank you for kicking this important post. JackRiddler May 2014 #68
Thank you for discrediting yourself as an alarmist and a liar. nt Tommy_Carcetti May 2014 #69
This doesn't smell right. broiles May 2014 #49
That Biden's son was hired by this venture? JackRiddler May 2014 #71
Nazi's....molotov's ....massacres.....natural gas....nepotism... go west young man May 2014 #61
 

ChisolmTrailDem

(9,463 posts)
1. Upon further scrutiny, I agree with okaawhatever below...
Tue May 13, 2014, 11:56 AM
May 2014

I didn't pay attention to the source, Zero Hedge. I used to be a daily consumer of Zero Hedge. That ended when I finaly conceded with myself that ZH is FOS most of the time.

I'll await a more reputable source before I continue my freakout.

My initial reaction before considering it further... I'm so sick of the cronyism/nepotism bullshit! nt

oldandhappy

(6,719 posts)
3. oops!
Tue May 13, 2014, 11:57 AM
May 2014

Thinks he can change things from inside? Forgot his dad wants to run for president? Oh well. He gets his money.

okaawhatever

(9,461 posts)
4. Why aren't any reputable sources posting this story? Only pro-Russia media sources are printing
Tue May 13, 2014, 12:02 PM
May 2014

this story. One of them has a second story that "Russia is one step away from collapsing America's Economy". Perhaps we should wait to see if this is true.

Benton D Struckcheon

(2,347 posts)
5. Guess Obama should be careful stepping out of the car,
Tue May 13, 2014, 12:21 PM
May 2014

that one step could spell doom for all of us, doom I tells ya!

The Magistrate

(95,247 posts)
8. Waiting For Someone To Complete The Circle, Sir
Tue May 13, 2014, 12:33 PM
May 2014

And claim this whole thing has been arranged for Mr. Biden's personal profit....

Tommy_Carcetti

(43,181 posts)
11. Oh my god. Joe Biden is......
Tue May 13, 2014, 12:39 PM
May 2014

.....KEYSER SOZE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



(It's 19 years old...I don't know if I need a "spoiler alert" tag).

KoKo

(84,711 posts)
16. Here is the Press Release... Clinton/Obama/MBNA Bank/US Global Leadership Coalition..etc..etc.
Tue May 13, 2014, 12:54 PM
May 2014
Here he is with his Flag Pin and Press Release. A fine looking young man...like his father (It looks like Fracking is On for Ukraine) Who could pass up such an opportunity?


Hunter Biden joins the team of Burisma Holdings

RD0CJYdL

Burisma Holdings, Ukraine’s largest private gas producer, has expand edits Board of Directors by bringing onMr. R Hunter Biden as a new director.

R. Hunter Biden will be in charge of the Holdings’ legal unit and will provide support for the Company among international organizations. On his new appointment, he commented: “Burisma’s track record of innovations and industry leadership in the field of natural gas means that it can be a strong driver of a strong economy in Ukraine.As a new member of the Board, I believe that my assistance in consulting the Company on matters of transparency, corporate governance and responsibility, international expansion and other priorities will contribute to the economy and benefit the people of Ukraine.”

The Chairman of the Board of Directors of Burisma Holdings, Mr. Alan Apter, noted: “The company’s strategy is aimed at the strongest concentration of professional staff and the introduction of best corporate practices, and we’re delighted that Mr. Biden is joining us to help us achieve these goals.”

R. Hunter Biden is a counsel to Boies, Schiller & Flexner LLP, a national law firm based in New York, USA, which served in cases including “Bush vs. Gore”, and “U.S. vs. Microsoft”.He is one of the co-founders and a managing partner of the investment advisory company Rosemont Seneca Partners, as well as chairman of the board of Rosemont Seneca Advisors. He is an Adjunct Professor at Georgetown University’s Masters Program in the School of Foreign Service.

Mr. Biden has experience in public service and foreign policy. He is a director for the U.S. Global Leadership Coalition, The Center for National Policy, and the Chairman’s Advisory Board for the National Democratic Institute. Having served as a Senior Vice President at MBNA bank, former U.S. President Bill Clinton appointed him an Executive Director of E-Commerce Policy Coordination under Secretary of Commerce William Daley. Mr. Biden served as Honorary Co-Chair of the 2008 Obama-Biden Inaugural Committee.

Mr. Biden is a member of the bar in the State of Connecticut, and the District of Columbia, the U.S. Supreme Court, and the Court of Federal Claims. He received a Bachelor’s degree from Georgetown University, and a J.D. from Yale Law School.

R. Hunter Biden is also a well-known public figure.He is chairman of the Board of the World Food Programme U.S.A., together with the world’s largest humanitarian organization, theUnited Nations World Food Programme. In this capacity he offers assistance to the poor in developing countries, fighting hunger and poverty, and helping to provide food and education to 300 million malnourished children around the world.

Company Background:
Burisma Holdings is a privately owned oil and gas company with assets in Ukraine and operating in the energy market since 2002. To date, the company holds a portfolio with permits to develop fields in the Dnieper-Donets, the Carpathian and the Azov-Kuban basins. In 2013, the daily gas production grew steadily and at year-end amounted to 11.6 thousand BOE (barrels of oil equivalent – incl. gas, condensate and crude oil), or 1.8 million m3 of natural gas. The company sells these volumes in the domestic market through traders, as well as directly to final consumers.

For more information contact the press office at media@burisma.com

RD0CJYdL


The Magistrate

(95,247 posts)
20. Fortunately, Ma'am, You Did Not Complete The Circle
Tue May 13, 2014, 12:56 PM
May 2014

That he was hired strikes me as of very little importance. I expect it was to show some deference to his father....

 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
63. Why? I really can't think of anything more non-offensive.
Wed May 14, 2014, 08:48 AM
May 2014

How does it create an emotional reaction within you?

Jeff In Milwaukee

(13,992 posts)
73. I think it would be hilarilous....
Wed May 14, 2014, 09:08 PM
May 2014

if people start walking around with flag pins that are the size of a sheet of paper.

Oh, you and you teeny flag pin. Don't love America much?

polly7

(20,582 posts)
15. It may be no big deal to you, this western-funded and supported brutal coup,
Tue May 13, 2014, 12:51 PM
May 2014

creating hatred, divisiveness and distrust, the murders including burning people alive, all to benefit multi-national corporations and the IMF ... funny even. I doubt the people of Ukraine would agree right now.

KoKo

(84,711 posts)
22. Agree.....and imagine there will be more revelations to come.
Tue May 13, 2014, 01:03 PM
May 2014

But, it will be discounted as pure Russian Propaganda from Putin Lovers...or some other such disparagement because if Democrats do it....It's all good.

pampango

(24,692 posts)
31. The "brutal coup" came after Yanukovich campaigned on "Ukraine's integration with the EU remains
Tue May 13, 2014, 01:24 PM
May 2014
our strategic aim."

In May 2011, Yanukovych stated that he will strive for Ukraine to join the EU. Yanukovych's stance towards integration with the EU has, according to The Economist, led him to be "seen in Moscow as a traitor", a reversal of the 2004 presidential election where Moscow openly supported Yanukovych.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yanukovich#Presidential_campaign_.26_election

In 2010 both presidential candidates campaigned in favor of integration with Europe. They must have perceived that to be a popular position with Ukrainian voters. You or I may know better than they do what is best for them but, the way the world works, they get to make the decision.

Of course in 2013 he changed that the policy of favoring integration with Europe and signed an agreement with Russia. Whatever his reasons for this policy reversal, apparently his explanation of the reasoning behind his reversal was not accepted by many Ukrainians. I dare say that many of us do not like it when a presidential candidate campaigns for one policy then, once in office, decides that the opposite policy is actually the way to go.

After months of massive, sustained public protests throughout a cold, Ukrainian winter, Yanukovich signed an agreement with the protesters in which he agreed to remain in office until early elections in December and to use security forces to protect public buildings. He still had complete control of the security forces and the military and could quite easily have lived up to his end of the agreement. If he had done so he would still be president of Ukraine today, governing the country and preparing himself for national elections in 5 months.

What did he do? Rather than remain in office and to his job with the protection of the security forces, he decided to pursue a different strategy - running away.

Within hours of signing the agreement the protesters (with the police, army and security forces under his control), he hastily abandoned his residence and left Kiev. Before leaving he ordered security forces not to protect public buildings. Why issue an order contradicting the agreement he had just signed? The image of mobs mobbing and looting public buildings would create an image of lawlessness and violence that could be used by others to justify military intervention. Of course the looting and burning did not happen (much to the surprise of him and Putin), but that did not change the spin.

If he had simply lived up to the agreement he signed with the protesters in February, he would be sitting in Kiev running the government pending elections in December. Now his own political party has abandoned him and Putin never mentions him. Indeed reports are that Putin is quite mad at him for the mess he made in Kiev and never says publicly that he thinks Yanukovich should return to the presidency.

Are you saying that Ukrainians should have accepted Yanukovich's policy reversal meekly and not taken to the streets? Should Americans do the same when our president reverses a popular policy?

Why did Yanukovich not live up to the agreement that he had just signed? If he had not fled, there would not have been no 'coup'. He would still be in Kiev governing ahead of elections in December. Crimea would still be a part of Ukraine and there would be no unrest in eastern Ukraine regarding to transferring more parts of Ukraine to Russia.

Oh wait. Now I'm starting to see why he fled the capital. Things are a lot better for Russia now than just having some possible lame duck in Kiev for a few more months. Russia has taken Crimea and may take some of the rest of Ukraine.

truedelphi

(32,324 posts)
56. That is a very decent analysis of the situation.
Tue May 13, 2014, 07:34 PM
May 2014

And we know who this Administration so willingly works for - nothing that has been done since January 09 shows me that the Admin is not entangled up in Monsanto, IMF, World Bank and any and all causes that further the advancement of those "institutions."

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
43. Found a video that says Ukraine, etc. is a contrived plot between.... Wait for it...
Tue May 13, 2014, 01:47 PM
May 2014

China and Russia and Obama to destroy the USA. This year, Obama will KILL 314 million Americans by setting off EMF pulse weaponry to destroy the banking system and cause chaos, rioting and death.*

Obama will then take over the entire world, by becoming the planet's intermediary with space aliens. Although there aren't any, this is part of TheObamaDeception©. Video proof! on Youtube:

CIA Spy: Alien Contact To Be Announced By Obama; Secret Deal With Putin/China Over Dollar Collapse


And it follows the same script of 'gotcha' that says Obama MUST be proven to be a scam, the anti-Christ, a bankster, a corporatist, etc.*

It's all been implanted by Infowars and Glenn Beck, et al, years ago. What has been seen and heard cannot be unseen and unheard. So the subsconscious must vent or heads will explode.

*Those ideas are only at odds in the minds of the 'sheeple' who refuse to move forward to crush the tyranny! TheCult© knows TheTruth©! Even without logic or facts, you just gotta believe! Or else! Because... CIA!

Yes, we are doomed!

KoKo

(84,711 posts)
13. Here...from the Gas Company who Hired Him... I think it's a Fracking Outfit...from their
Tue May 13, 2014, 12:44 PM
May 2014
Press Release.

R. Hunter Biden is also a well-known public figure.He is chairman of the Board of the World Food Programme U.S.A., together with the world’s largest humanitarian organization, theUnited Nations World Food Programme. In this capacity he offers assistance to the poor in developing countries, fighting hunger and poverty, and helping to provide food and education to 300 million malnourished children around the world.

Company Background:
Burisma Holdings is a privately owned oil and gas company with assets in Ukraine and operating in the energy market since 2002. To date, the company holds a portfolio with permits to develop fields in the Dnieper-Donets, the Carpathian and the Azov-Kuban basins. In 2013, the daily gas production grew steadily and at year-end amounted to 11.6 thousand BOE (barrels of oil equivalent – incl. gas, condensate and crude oil), or 1.8 million m3 of natural gas. The company sells these volumes in the domestic market through traders, as well as directly to final consumers.

For more information contact the press office at media@burisma.com
 

FarCenter

(19,429 posts)
21. The Azov-Kuban Basin pretty much went with Crimea; Dneiper-Donets in in the contested East
Tue May 13, 2014, 01:01 PM
May 2014

Although a large section of the Dneiper-Donets is between Karkiv and Kiev.

MattSh

(3,714 posts)
17. That's the wrong question...
Tue May 13, 2014, 12:55 PM
May 2014

The real question is why are only "pro-Russian" media sources reporting it and US sources are not, when the company involved issued a press release stating so?

tritsofme

(17,376 posts)
48. Because it is not big or important news?
Tue May 13, 2014, 02:46 PM
May 2014

It may have propaganda value to Kremlin loyalists/apologists, but that's about it.

 

go west young man

(4,856 posts)
58. The wheels are coming off....
Tue May 13, 2014, 10:55 PM
May 2014

even the Guardian UK is changing it's tune..http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/may/13/ukraine-us-war-russia-john-pilger?INTCMP=ILCNETTXT3487

In Ukraine, the US is dragging us towards war with Russia
Washington's role in Ukraine, and its backing for the regime's neo-Nazis, has huge implications for the rest of the world

Excerpt:

We in the west are now backing neo-Nazis in a country where Ukrainian Nazis backed Hitler.

Having masterminded the coup in February against the democratically elected government in Kiev, Washington's planned seizure of Russia's historic, legitimate warm-water naval base in Crimea failed. The Russians defended themselves, as they have done against every threat and invasion from the west for almost a century.

But Nato's military encirclement has accelerated, along with US-orchestrated attacks on ethnic Russians in Ukraine. If Putin can be provoked into coming to their aid, his pre-ordained "pariah" role will justify a Nato-run guerrilla war that is likely to spill into Russia itself.




Looks like it's all no longer a conspiracy theory and is now being printed as stated fact by world renowned serious reporters. Enjoy your crow sandwich.

Tommy_Carcetti

(43,181 posts)
65. As I mentioned in my other reply to you, it was an op-ed simply repeating old talking points.
Wed May 14, 2014, 10:17 AM
May 2014

If that's what John Pilger wants to believe, fine. His opinions don't shed any new light on the actual facts of the situation.

ProSense

(116,464 posts)
10. Interesting that
Tue May 13, 2014, 12:39 PM
May 2014
R. Hunter Biden is a counsel to Boies, Schiller & Flexner LLP, a national law firm based in New York, USA, which served in cases including “Bush vs. Gore”, and “U.S. vs. Microsoft”.

...this is highlighted at the original.

From the law firm's site:

<...>

Mr. Boies has been named the Litigator of the Year by The American Lawyer; the Lawyer of the Year by The National Law Journal; runner-up Person of the Year by Time Magazine; the Antitrust Lawyer of the Year by the New York Bar Association; Best Lawyers in America from 1987-2013; Lawdragon 500 Leading Lawyers; and a Star Individual by Chambers USA. He was named one of the Top 50 Big Law Innovators of the Last 50 Years by The American Lawyer in 2013.

Mr. Boies served as Chief Counsel and Staff Director of the United States Senate Antitrust Subcommittee in 1978 and Chief Counsel and Staff Director of the United States Senate Judiciary Committee in 1979.

In 1991-1993, Mr. Boies was counsel to the Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation, recovering $1.2 billion from companies who sold junk bonds to failed savings and loan associations.

In 1998-2000, he served as Special Trial Counsel for the United States Department of Justice in its antitrust suit against Microsoft. Mr. Boies also served as the lead counsel for former Vice-President Al Gore in connection with litigation relating to the 2000 election Florida vote count. As co-lead counsel for the plaintiffs in Perry v. Brown, he won judgments establishing the constitutional right to marry for gay and lesbian citizens in California.

- more -

http://www.bsfllp.com/lawyers/data/0001

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
18. What's farcical about a corporate lawyer joining yet another corporate board?
Tue May 13, 2014, 12:55 PM
May 2014

Last edited Tue May 13, 2014, 01:45 PM - Edit history (1)

I think he's on like 12 of them

Ikonoklast

(23,973 posts)
23. Stop it, you're ruining the circlejerk!
Tue May 13, 2014, 01:07 PM
May 2014

And don't even tell them how many elected and appointed officials serving our government are lawyers, who used to do lawyerly-type things to earn a living before getting into office, they'll freak!




I heard that Obama guy is a lawyer, doing some deep research right now to verify....sssshhhhhhh.

 

msanthrope

(37,549 posts)
30. I got accused today of wanting more federal judges so my clients would pay me more.
Tue May 13, 2014, 01:21 PM
May 2014

I'd link to the stupid, but then I'd get a hide for being mean.

 

Comrade Grumpy

(13,184 posts)
37. Maybe that's part of our problem. Who needs a bunch of parasites running things?
Tue May 13, 2014, 01:35 PM
May 2014

With lawyers, everything always turns out well--for them.

TheSarcastinator

(854 posts)
27. the devil as they say, is in the details
Tue May 13, 2014, 01:11 PM
May 2014

But by all means, continue your excuses and reductions to absurdity. "Other corporate layers join boards, so that means there is nothing to see here" is so obvious and transparent a tactic that it will only hold water for your fellow cheer leaders and the sycophants of state & corporate power.

But by all means, rock that snark. It certainly makes you look superior...at least on the surface.

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
44. Then spell it out for me, because I really don't see it
Tue May 13, 2014, 01:48 PM
May 2014

Is the claim that this is related to the unrest in the Ukraine? In what way, then?

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
60. Being on a board doesn't require "talent"; you don't really do anything
Wed May 14, 2014, 01:08 AM
May 2014

You usually don't even pay them except for expenses; they just have meetings once a quarter and occasionally take a vote on something. It's just a way to get people with connections involved in your company.

ProSense

(116,464 posts)
32. The "farce" is that
Tue May 13, 2014, 01:25 PM
May 2014

Zero Hedge is a RW hack. The "farce" is about Democrats.

A previously banned poster used Zero Hedge to support his RW-spin on the economy.

From Zero Hedge:

Guest Post: Gun Control In Nazi Germany

There is no shortage of theories or writings related to the rise of the Third Reich and the subsequent Holocaust. Stephen Halbrook’s 2013 book, Gun Control in the Third Reich offers a compelling and important account of the role of gun prohibition in aiding Hitler’s goals of exterminating the Jews and other “enemies of the state.” While much of the early gun prohibition was created with supposedly good intent, Halbrook carefully and meticulously details how a change in political regime facilitated manipulating some well-intentioned gun registration laws and other gun prohibition to be used in inconceivable ways.

Students of history as well as Second Amendment enthusiasts will find this a fascinating book and will find parallels between gun prohibition in pre-Nazi and Nazi Germany, and attempts to prohibit types of gun ownership and implement other forms of gun prohibition in the United States today. The current climate in the United States surrounding gun prohibition combined with a president who uses his office to impose executive order in ways not historically common gives many citizens pause, especially when looking at the era of the Third Reich. While certain states have imposed gun registration laws recently, enforcement of the laws remains unclear.

- more -

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-05-12/guest-post-gun-control-nazi-germany


Is The Political Fight Over Keystone XL Over?

The House Energy and Commerce Committee approved resolution 3301, the so-called North American Energy Infrastructure Act. Authored by Reps. Fred Upton, R-Mich., and Gene Green, D-Texas, the bill aims to do away with the current processes for approving electrical, gas and oil infrastructure that would cross the U.S. border with Mexico or Canada.

"No one can rightfully argue that the current presidential permit process is not broken," Upton said in a May 8 statement.

A presidential permit is needed for cross-border projects and it's been more than five years since pipeline company TransCanada submitted its application for the Keystone XL pipeline. Since then, the company constructed and started service at its 485-mile Gulf Coast pipeline from Cushing, Okla., considered the U.S. leg of the pipeline.

Keystone XL itself would extend more than 1,100 miles from Alberta to Nebraska before it connected to existing links to Cushing. Designed to deliver oil sands, the pipeline has become the scapegoat not only for environmentalists, but for policymakers on both sides of the U.S. energy debate.

U.S. Sens. Mary Landrieu, chairwoman of the Senate Energy Committee, drafted a bill with Sen. John Hoeven, R-N.D., that would advance Keystone XL. Landrieu said May 1 it's time to stop debating the project and move ahead with construction.

"This pipeline is clearly in our national interest, and I urge all senators to join Sen. Hoeven and me to support this bill," she said.

Bipartisan bickering over procedural voting issues, however, left the bill dead on the Senate floor.

- more -

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-05-12/political-fight-over-keystone-xl-over

Check out the image at the link.

ProSense

(116,464 posts)
40. The "messenger"
Tue May 13, 2014, 01:43 PM
May 2014

"You're killing the messenger. I'm awaiting your attack on the actual press release."

...earned it with that title.

Also, given the points highlighted in the original, I don't think it was intended to flatter. Wonder why?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024948091#post10

 

JackRiddler

(24,979 posts)
70. Biden's son hired by Ukrainian Frack Corp.
Wed May 14, 2014, 11:41 AM
May 2014

The farce is that this is true, but you can't acknowledge it, so you're going to complain about the coincidence of who linked to the press release from the company, rather than acknowledge the company hired Biden's son to front for fracking in the New Ukraine under the bankster governor appointed by NATO-CIA.

bvar22

(39,909 posts)
33. K&R
Tue May 13, 2014, 01:25 PM
May 2014
The illusion of freedom will continue as long as it's profitable to continue the illusion. At the point where the illusion becomes too expensive to maintain, they will just take down the scenery, they will pull back the curtains, they will move the tables and chairs out of the way and you will see the brick wall at the back of the theater.
---prophet and sage, Frank Zappa


The glimpses of the "brick wall at the back of the theater" are becoming frighteningly more frequent.


"Its a BIG Club,
and YOU ain't in it."

---George Carlin


KoKo

(84,711 posts)
39. This move is so "in your face" that it's now more than a glimpse..
Tue May 13, 2014, 01:42 PM
May 2014

I think we are just about there to see that brick wall full on.

There is no shame...no worry of impropriety not even a "polite interval" until things settle down in Ukraine. Its a flag waving..."So, are you going to do about it?" " right there in the Press Release.

bvar22

(39,909 posts)
46. Naomi Klein's Disaster Capitalism on a Global Scale.
Tue May 13, 2014, 02:20 PM
May 2014

..and if you don't have a disaster,
the US will be glad to create one!

struggle4progress

(118,281 posts)
36. "Burisma Holdings Limited engages in oil and gas exploration and production ... The company
Tue May 13, 2014, 01:34 PM
May 2014

was incorporated in 2006 and is based in Limassol, Cyprus"

Robert Hunter Biden Joins Board of Directors of Burisma Holdings Ltd
May 12 14
Robert Hunter Biden has joined the board of directors of Burisma Holdings Ltd. In the holding Robert Biden will be responsible for legal issues, and supporting the company in international organisations. He serves as Counsel to Boies, Schiller, Flexner, LLP. Previously, Mr. Biden was a founding member of the law firm, Oldaker, Biden and Belair, LLP, was appointed by President Clinton to serve as Executive Director of E-Commerce Policy Coordination under Secretary of Commerce William Daley and was a Senior Vice President at MBNA America Bank.

War Horse

(931 posts)
45. This may be one of the most coherent posts
Tue May 13, 2014, 02:02 PM
May 2014

I've seen on DU in a while.

I have a few radical ideas:

1: Russia is actually the aggressor wrt Ukraine, and

2: Sometimes rescuing kidnapped girls is actually about rescuing kidnapped girls.

Sorry to hinge this on your post, Puzzledtraveller. Just seemed like an appropriate, well, hinge.

(Edited for spelling)

Tommy_Carcetti

(43,181 posts)
47. Hey everyone, remember this guy?
Tue May 13, 2014, 02:33 PM
May 2014

Last edited Tue May 13, 2014, 03:17 PM - Edit history (1)



Sure you do.

He was hilarious, wasn't he? I think we all got a good laugh out of him.

Do you know why? Because he was crazy. Certifiably batshit insane.

The funny thing was, if it were Glenn Beck spouting strange conspiracy theories about events in Ukraine, I think all of us would be getting a good laugh out of it.

I mean, trying to quilt together a narrative that involves the EU, IMF, CIA, Victoria Nuland and her various pastries, John McCain, NGOs, western corporations, Arseniy Yatsenyuk, Ukrainian ultranationalists, $5 billion dollars, the corporate media, and now apparently R. Hunter Biden--there's some serious fucked up creativity going on that person's head.

And yet, if someone registers a screen name on DU, we are somehow obligated to take that same incredibly convoluted narrative more seriously because we have to assume he's one of us? And take every one of his positions as if he is an expert, like...say....when he compared the Ukrainian interim government to the Third Reich. No, seriously:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024677598#post1
 

JackRiddler

(24,979 posts)
62. You registered a screen name on DU...
Wed May 14, 2014, 08:43 AM
May 2014

So everything you say in your projection-addled, content-free post is equally applicable to you.

Not entirely a waste, though.

At least you provided a link to someone who actually knows what the hell they're talking about:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024677598


The only reason people deal with you is because you will post obnoxious and irrelevant bullshit distracting from the situation in Ukraine everywhere. As usual you say nothing about the Ukraine, but think you become right simply by displaying an inability to understand how imperialism works if it's American and not Russian.

Tommy_Carcetti

(43,181 posts)
64. Hey Jack, got me that evidence of a Western sponsored coup yet?
Wed May 14, 2014, 09:36 AM
May 2014

I'm still waiting on that one.

Any ways, as to the fact that the OP identifies as a resident of Ukraine: Big shit. Just because he claims to live there doesn't mean he has an objective view of the situation (which if you read him, clearly he doesn't.) I have cousins living in Ukraine who are actually Ukrainian, and they can paint me a much, much different picture than the OP.

And if you read the OP, you'll find out that despite his Ukrainian address, he doesn't care much for Ukrainians, doesn't choose to associate with them, and laughably chooses to compare the interim Ukrainian government to Hitler's Third Reich. And then commends Vladimir Putin for "knowing his history." And yes, "Putin apologist" is a bit of an overplayed card at times here at DU, but in this situation it's actually accurate. You look at other posts from the OP here at DU and you'll find he's defended Putin's policy on gays and mocked Pussy Riot.

He's a Russophile, which fine--that's his right to be if he so chooses. But don't pretend he's some objective, unbiased all-knowing source of information.

So anywho, about showing me that what happened in Ukraine was a western-sponsored coup...where is it?

 

go west young man

(4,856 posts)
66. It's coming...slowly...but surely.
Wed May 14, 2014, 10:18 AM
May 2014

Stephen Cohen now fully onboard for exposing the US role in Odessa massacre.

Stephen Cohen criticized the US government on Monday for its unwavering support of the Kiev government.

http://www.thenation.com/blog/179799/stephen-cohen-us-applauding-war-crimes-ukraine

https://

Excerpt from link:

Appearing on Democracy Now!, Cohen addressed this weekend’s hastily convened referendum on self-rule in Eastern Ukraine, calling it “no more or less legal than the government in Kiev,” which seized power in February. Cohen condemned the US response to attacks by Ukrainian troops in the Eastern cities of Mariupol and Odessa, where dozens of pro-Russian protesters were killed in a fire two weeks ago. “What did the US government say?” Cohen asked, “Did it say ‘we regret the loss of life?’ Did it say, ‘there should be an investigation?’ No. It said, ‘Kiev has the right to restore law and order.’” If a war crime was committed in Eastern Ukraine, warns Cohen, “we applauded it.”
Not only did we provide financial support for the Odessa massacre....we paid Ukrainian media who covered it up.

Link to the official US government website for USAID. That US government site officially states that USAID INCREASES SUPPORT FOR MEDIA AND PRESS FREEDOM IN UKRAINE
For Immediate Release
Friday, May 2, 2014
USAID Press Office

http://www.usaid.gov/news-information/press-releases/may-2-2014-usaid-increases-support-media-and-press-freedom-ukraine

This support takes place on May 2, 2014- the very same day of the Odessa massacre.....now look at what the Kiev Post publishes on May 3,2014, the very next day...

http://www.kyivpost.com/content/ukraine/sbu-russia-behind-kidnapping-of-osce-military-observers-updates-videos-346066.html

Headline at link reads:
Police say pro-Russians accidentally set fatal Odessa fire with Molotov cocktails (LIVE UPDATES, VIDEO)
Print version
May 3, 2014, 6:45 p.m. | Ukraine — by Kyiv Post

Now take a look at the way these people died....and attempt to figure out all these "accidents"...Warning graphic photos: Pictures are of corpses in various states of death. http://ucmopuockon.livejournal.com/5885397.html

Tommy_Carcetti

(43,181 posts)
67. My question to Mr. Riddler was as to his claim (and yours) was whether a coup occurred in February.
Wed May 14, 2014, 10:22 AM
May 2014

Various narratives on the Odessa violence are a red herring to that question, sir.

SQUIRREL!!!!!

 

JackRiddler

(24,979 posts)
71. That Biden's son was hired by this venture?
Wed May 14, 2014, 11:43 AM
May 2014

Nah, it smells like garden-variety imperialist corruption.

 

go west young man

(4,856 posts)
61. Nazi's....molotov's ....massacres.....natural gas....nepotism...
Wed May 14, 2014, 02:02 AM
May 2014

I can see Ukraines new tourism slogan after the IMF rape. "Ukraine, we've got it all.....if you like your financial raping on the same level as your massacres".

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