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Omaha Steve

(99,594 posts)
Wed May 14, 2014, 09:50 AM May 2014

News Busters: Bob Kerrey Calls Obama a Delusional Liar; Media Mum


I found this while checking on something else for a post about Nebraska politics. IF Kerrey had said this a couple years ago, RED Nebraska might have put him back in his US Senate seat. Note this is from news busters.

Original story: Obama 'sucked less than Romney': Former Sen. Bob Kerrey, a DEMOCRAT, uncorks a Nebraska-sized tornado on the president, slamming him for health care lies and saying he's not up to saving Social Security: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2591304/Obama-sucked-Romney-Former-Sen-Bob-Kerrey-DEMOCRAT-uncorks-Nebraska-sized-tornado-president-slamming-Obamacare-lies-saying-hes-not-saving-Social-Security.html

http://newsbusters.org/blogs/pj-gladnick/2014/03/29/bob-kerrey-calls-obama-delusional-liar-renders-himself-msm-nonperson

By P.J. Gladnick | March 29, 2014 | 19:39

Imagine if a former Republican presidential candidate and U.S. senator had called a current Republican president a delusional liar whose programs are wasteful. Would the mainstream media not be all over the story? Such a person would be interviewed at length by Wolf Blitzer on CNN as well as made the rounds of the morning talk shows and the Sunday news programs as well. The media buzz would be red hot on this topic for days extending into weeks.

Well, there is such a person but because he is a Democrat saying these things about President Obama, we can expect him to become an MSM nonperson. Such seems to already be the fate of former presidential candidate and U.S. Senator Bob Kerrey. It is no surprise that his extended criticisms of Obama appeared in in a Daily Mail article in Britain, not in America where the shunning seems to have already begun. Here is what Kerrey has to say about Obama which you most likely won't see in any major liberal news outlet in America:

The Nebraskan straight-talker told MailOnline in an exclusive interview that Obama isn't up to the job of bringing liberals and conservatives to the table to rescue America's slowly choking entitlement programs.

And Obama, he said Wednesday in his Manhattan office, knew full well he was lying when he promised that the Affordable Care Act would allow Americans to keep insurance plans they liked.

'He had to know he was misleading the audience,' Kerrey said quietly, recalling the newly minted president's countless promises as Congress and the public debated his signature health insurance overhaul.


FULL story at link.

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News Busters: Bob Kerrey Calls Obama a Delusional Liar; Media Mum (Original Post) Omaha Steve May 2014 OP
Had Kerry attacked Obama from the right it would be all over the news. From the left? Not. Scuba May 2014 #1
this looks like an attack from the right Enrique May 2014 #4
Kerrey Robbins May 2014 #11
How is this "from the left"? ProSense May 2014 #10
Well, he did promise, before he took office, that he would reform entitllements. merrily May 2014 #26
Nice confirmation bias you got there. geek tragedy May 2014 #18
It goes with the ObamaBadObamaBad theme around here...nt SidDithers May 2014 #33
"told MailOnline in an exclusive interview " jberryhill May 2014 #2
Moonie News really spun that. Kerrey said politicians have a 25% more capacity to be deceptive blm May 2014 #3
I hope so but remember he said some things JI7 May 2014 #8
He didn't say what the article and headline is claiming. blm May 2014 #24
he supported Hillary and said similar in 2008 JI7 May 2014 #5
Hill, but not Bill? That is odd. merrily May 2014 #9
I noticed this was the case with some vets JI7 May 2014 #12
Maybe it was because of his alleged Vietnam draft dodging? And/or her alleged hawkishness? merrily May 2014 #21
He said Obama attended a 'madrassa' nt geek tragedy May 2014 #16
now I remember JI7 May 2014 #19
I think that word tries to approximate the Arabic word for school. merrily May 2014 #22
The word in English is 'school' nt geek tragedy May 2014 #30
That was my point. merrily May 2014 #31
Let's assume for the moment that the source is correct. merrily May 2014 #6
Newsbusters link should go in the subject line sharp_stick May 2014 #7
Done Omaha Steve May 2014 #13
Thank you, appreciate it. n/t sharp_stick May 2014 #25
Bob Kerrey is a war criminal and a DINO. geek tragedy May 2014 #14
Sen. Kerrey won a Medal of Honor. Octafish May 2014 #17
I don't know thin that was ever proven. merrily May 2014 #27
DINOs give this kind of interview. nt geek tragedy May 2014 #28
And New Democrats are more covert? merrily May 2014 #29
I'm guessing this means one of two things. stevenleser May 2014 #15
Or Kerrey is desperate to find someone who cares what geek tragedy May 2014 #20
Agreed hedgehog May 2014 #35
He was a guest on "Bloomberg Business" this week for a morning show... KoKo May 2014 #32
#1--isn't he really old? Doubt that would happen. TwilightGardener May 2014 #36
IMO, "people" like this fredamae May 2014 #23
newsbusters.com? EC May 2014 #34
and yet voters chose not to elect him president even once but chose obama twice arely staircase May 2014 #37
Anyone selling "slowly choking entitlement programs" is a liar... Orsino May 2014 #38

Robbins

(5,066 posts)
11. Kerrey
Wed May 14, 2014, 10:08 AM
May 2014

He attacked obama from not bying able to bring liberals and conservatives together to fix the failing in his words entitlement programs and acts like health care plans were so great before. great from him PreACA health care must be so great and obama Isn't bi-partisan enough.

ProSense

(116,464 posts)
10. How is this "from the left"?
Wed May 14, 2014, 10:07 AM
May 2014

He's pissed that Obama didn't join with conservatives to reform "entitlements"

The Nebraskan straight-talker told MailOnline in an exclusive interview that Obama isn't up to the job of bringing liberals and conservatives to the table to rescue America's slowly choking entitlement programs.


He said he wouldn't have done health care reform, and he's pissed about the focus on "income inequality."

Another of Obama's failings, according to Kerrey, is an inflated sense of Americans' appetite for programs to correct what the White House calls 'income inequality,' through new taxes and other income-shifting initiatives that transfer wealth from the rich to the poor.


I should also point out that the original article is in a RW rag and the title of the OP is from a wingnut rag, which is tagged: "Exposing and combating liberal media bias."

merrily

(45,251 posts)
26. Well, he did promise, before he took office, that he would reform entitllements.
Wed May 14, 2014, 10:42 AM
May 2014

You are right that in hieroglyphs the human determinative signs don't show people with weight issues.

Then there was the Cat Food Commission, cuts to fuel subsidies, proposals for chained CPI--which Pelosi denied was a cut--and the Grand Bargain Committee and the sequester, all WH initiatives.

And Conyers did say that Obama, not Boehner or Cantor, puts cuts to OASDI and Medicare on the table.

http://www.crewof42.com/news/conyers-on-jobs-weve-had-it-lays-out-obama-calls-for-protest-at-white-house/

And, Obama still signs those bills that cut SNAP, aka "food stamps."

But, you know all that.

(Yeah, yeah, I know. It wasn't that he shut all that down--except the sequester-- to start campaigning for the 2012 election. It was that, all along, he was playing a genius, but utterly pointless game of 15 dimensional chess.)

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
18. Nice confirmation bias you got there.
Wed May 14, 2014, 10:14 AM
May 2014

Next time read the article, and familiarize yourself with Bob Kerrey as well.

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
2. "told MailOnline in an exclusive interview "
Wed May 14, 2014, 10:01 AM
May 2014

You are shocked, shocked that the content of an "exclusive interview" was not reported elsewhere?

blm

(113,047 posts)
3. Moonie News really spun that. Kerrey said politicians have a 25% more capacity to be deceptive
Wed May 14, 2014, 10:01 AM
May 2014

and to lie, and he called it to self-delude. Moonie News had to twist his statements to claim that Kerrey specifically called Obama a self-delusional liar.

These Moonie News guys are pathetic. They wouldn't report a straight news story if it contained three words - Obama elected president.

JI7

(89,247 posts)
8. I hope so but remember he said some things
Wed May 14, 2014, 10:06 AM
May 2014

When he was supporting hillary for 2008 so it wouldn't be new for him

blm

(113,047 posts)
24. He didn't say what the article and headline is claiming.
Wed May 14, 2014, 10:34 AM
May 2014

They are cherry-picking all of his statements about Obama and about politicians in general and then piecing them together to direct all fire at Obama.

I know Kerrey's intentions aren't the purest, but, the article goes way too far with its claim.

JI7

(89,247 posts)
5. he supported Hillary and said similar in 2008
Wed May 14, 2014, 10:03 AM
May 2014

Strangely he doesn't like bill Clinton either and was negative towards him when he was pres.

But he is a fan of Hillary

JI7

(89,247 posts)
12. I noticed this was the case with some vets
Wed May 14, 2014, 10:09 AM
May 2014

Some military guys were big fans of Hillary but never liked bill .

merrily

(45,251 posts)
21. Maybe it was because of his alleged Vietnam draft dodging? And/or her alleged hawkishness?
Wed May 14, 2014, 10:18 AM
May 2014

Someone who got banned from here recently had posted that Bill, while President, had told the marines he hated them. So, maybe those kinds of stories from the right were circulating even while he was in office?

I know religious people who claim to have switched parties after the Lewinsky thing first hit the fan. Maybe that was part of Kerrey's problem?

JI7

(89,247 posts)
19. now I remember
Wed May 14, 2014, 10:15 AM
May 2014

Couldn't remember exactly what but do remember it was pretty bad so wasn't surprised by this

merrily

(45,251 posts)
22. I think that word tries to approximate the Arabic word for school.
Wed May 14, 2014, 10:28 AM
May 2014

That's how swift our government is.

But, I realize the connotation that the word acquired during Bushco was very different from its literal meaning.

Just think, though, what Arabs--or anyone who is not as massively culture deficient as we are-- must think of us, when they hear us smearing a President for having gone to, gasp, school between the ages of 6 and 10. As opposed to being truant for four years?

Aaaarrggghhhh.

merrily

(45,251 posts)
6. Let's assume for the moment that the source is correct.
Wed May 14, 2014, 10:05 AM
May 2014

When did it first dawn on Kerrey that Obama's promises never had a chance of being fulfilled?



And, if Obama "sucked less" than Romney, anyway, what was the realistic choice at the polls in 2012 anyway; and what can we do about that kind of dilemma in the future?

Heaven knows, I appreciate candor for the sake of candor. And, heaven knows, I criticize Obama myself.

But Kerrey isn't some random poster on a message board. For one thing, when I criticize Obama, it doesn't hit any media whatsoever, even newsbusters. So, I think it fair to hold Kerrey to a higher standard than I hold myself.

That said, the important point is not so much what Kerrey said about Obama, but how the media reacted (or allegedly reacted).

What sucks more than even Romney? Media.

merrily

(45,251 posts)
27. I don't know thin that was ever proven.
Wed May 14, 2014, 10:53 AM
May 2014

I don't think that is an accusation that should be thrown around.

http://www.commentarymagazine.com/article/bob-kerrey-war-criminal/

If he did kill innocent 14 Vietnamese, he was far from alone. I hasten to add that I am not saying that would make it right. But that is how that war was fought. Troops were told that even very young children aiding the enemy. We've never been good at that kind of war, except when we were the insurgents. Still aren't.

As far as being a DINO, what are the exact differences between DINOs and New Democrats?




 

stevenleser

(32,886 posts)
15. I'm guessing this means one of two things.
Wed May 14, 2014, 10:12 AM
May 2014

Last edited Wed May 14, 2014, 01:59 PM - Edit history (1)

1 - Kerrey is running for President

or

2 - Kerrey will be the Hillary surrogate tasked with laying out the differences between Hillary and Obama in the most stark terms possible.

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
20. Or Kerrey is desperate to find someone who cares what
Wed May 14, 2014, 10:17 AM
May 2014

he thinks. He got his ass kicked in his last Senate run, his political career is over.

KoKo

(84,711 posts)
32. He was a guest on "Bloomberg Business" this week for a morning show...
Wed May 14, 2014, 11:32 AM
May 2014

so you may have a point about his visibility having a purpose politically. I thought so at the time wondering why he had been invited.

fredamae

(4,458 posts)
23. IMO, "people" like this
Wed May 14, 2014, 10:32 AM
May 2014

ought to be ignored. Attention seekers for the purpose of distracting everyone away from actual issues that need public debate. It's a means, imo, to "occupy" social media with useless garbage, gossip and rumor's.
I don't care about Justin Beiber, celebrity fights/breakups/comments and public confirmations of their stupidity.
MSM is So busy discussing Rubio's climate comments distracting away from the bigger point of the actual problem.

arely staircase

(12,482 posts)
37. and yet voters chose not to elect him president even once but chose obama twice
Wed May 14, 2014, 12:43 PM
May 2014

Does that make Bob Kerry extra double sucky?

Orsino

(37,428 posts)
38. Anyone selling "slowly choking entitlement programs" is a liar...
Wed May 14, 2014, 02:16 PM
May 2014

...but not necessarily as well paid as Kerrey.

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