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http://www.alifeahead.com/2014/05/14/50-things-working-poor-never-say/I stumbled across this list and thought some at DU might appreciate it.
by David Glenn Cox
1. I dont know if I could stand two weeks of vacation.
2. I was talking to my broker the other day.
3. Want to go see if the new Cadillac models are in?
4. Lets go shopping!
5. My life is perfect, just as it is.
6. Self-esteem is over-rated.
7. Raising the minimum wage, might hurt stock prices.
8. I was shopping at Whole Foods the other day.
9. Without those tax cuts, our economy would be a mess.
10. What we need are more casinos.
uponit7771
(90,301 posts)Comrade Grumpy
(13,184 posts)stevenleser
(32,886 posts)On Thu May 15, 2014, 04:08 PM an alert was sent on the following post:
51. I need to check my privilege.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=4958428
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Threadjacking this labor topic with white privilege buzzword. This is disruptive and rude. Race has jack to do with this topic! Can't have the white privilege wars bleeding here!
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Explanation: Alerter, I don't think you understand Graham's point. Someone who is poor and struggling to work to provide the most basic of needs generally doesn't have the time or desire to deal with whether they are potentially in a privileged class or not. They just care that they are struggling.
I don't fully agree with his thesis nor do I usually agree with him in general. But it is a valid point to try to make considering the OP.
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(13,184 posts)RobertEarl
(13,685 posts)I wonder how many members there are that just stay signed in to vote to hide posts? Could be quite a few.
Another thing poor people don't say:
Honey, write out a $10,000 check to our favorite politician.
IronLionZion
(45,380 posts)which is why in some areas, liberal dems oppose casinos.
And I feel conflicted about the jokes about saving for retirement. I want working poor to have some mechanism for that, which is why preserving our elderly programs like SS and medicare is so important.
There have been articles written by the working poor about the mentality of spending everything immediately because there's a chance it will be gone or stolen or something will happen to it if saved.
No Vested Interest
(5,164 posts)to the governmental entities.
We're seeing that now in my area of Ohio.
There's a limit on the number of people and on the amount of money a population will spend at casinos.
They can and are being overbuilt.
1StrongBlackMan
(31,849 posts)There was a big fight in Arizona over the building of a casino in Glendale. Some of several people interviewed by the media, and spoke at the public hearings, were homeless. The casino was projected to produce 200+ jobs, at an average salary of $40K/yr.
Nye Bevan
(25,406 posts)I'm not sure where the compiler of the list plucked that one from. On second thoughts, I could take a shrewd guess.
gratuitous
(82,849 posts)"Did we say just 200 jobs? Make it 300! Average salary will be $40,000. No, $50,000! Uh, we don't have figures on what the median salary will be, please just look at the average." I wonder how many of those homeless witnesses in your post were paid by the developers to come and speak at the public hearings?
Then, two or three years down the line, gosh dang it if the casino doesn't need a few more tax breaks. You know, so they don't have to relocate from this wonderful place. At four years, locals will look at the decaying façade of the now-closed pleasure palace and wonder why they weren't worthy of keeping those swell people in business.
1StrongBlackMan
(31,849 posts)To make outlandish claims.
jwirr
(39,215 posts)a car loan and told them I wanted their advice on my economic investments - if there was anything I could do to make it better. It was fun to watch his face when he had no answers and had to send me on my way.
I figured I had educated at least one bankster.
Edited to add that many seniors are not so taken by casinos as you think. There is little to do if you are a senior and at least at the casino you are not in the bar. I do not go often - maybe once a year and then I budget. I never spend more than $20. When that is gone I go to the cafeteria and eat a good meal. Most of the seniors I know do that. And yes I know there are people who are addicted to gambling but that is not just at the casino. There are a lot places to bet on the future.
I also live on the Indian Reservation and these were the only jobs available until the tribe created other jobs using the profits from the casinos. The biggest opposition we see in this area is from rw churches.
Nye Bevan
(25,406 posts)eat at the buffet and take a walk on the boardwalk. It's the ultimate cheap day out.
jwirr
(39,215 posts)toby jo
(1,269 posts)The pool room is soooo humid.
I wore that dress already this year.
The cuisine on that cruise was so memorable. (Yeah somebody actually said that to me)
Call a carpenter. Call the mechanic. Call the plumber. Call the electrician. (Never mind the broker)
The nanny can take them.
Get the breeder's opinion.
These come with a warranty, you just take them in for a 6 month check. (Diamonds)
I don't have any bills on me.
I know its 1200 feet long, but I've always wanted a brick driveway. We're putting the pond in the curve
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Scootaloo
(25,699 posts)I think going on a cruise, only to be served egg salad sandwiches that result in three days of explosive diarrhea would, in fact be very memorable...
Donald Ian Rankin
(13,598 posts)And several of the others from the link are too.
I think this list probably says more about the prejudices of the person who compiled it than it does about poor Americans today.
n2doc
(47,953 posts)16. Only deadbeats are in foreclosure
29. We need a large military to defend our freedom!
43. I wish theyd do away with entitlements.
Because they hear them all the time on AM radio and Fox News. Propaganda works. And they say reform entitlements (but keep your government out of my social security and medicare).
undeterred
(34,658 posts)adirondacker
(2,921 posts)They're all liberals, so I'll give them some credit, but the lack of empathy was disturbing.
jmowreader
(50,528 posts)A lot of the things on that list are EXACTLY what the working poor says.
Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)Shandris
(3,447 posts)1. I dont know if I could stand two weeks of vacation.
True, although a better one is "I don't know if I could AFFORD two weeks of vacation...or even two DAYS of it."
4. Lets go shopping!
Erm...what word do you think we use to describe buying things? 'Acquisitioning'?
5. My life is perfect, just as it is.
True...but we find happiness in smaller things. IF we didn't, we'd kill ourselves.
6. Self-esteem is over-rated.
Actually I hear (and say) this a lot.
20. Whats a dollar store?
A rip-off, usually. That's what they are. This guy really thinks we all shop at dollar stores?
26. I believe it, theres no inflation!
LOL, don't get me started on inflation. When I hear 'chained CPI', I want some chains of my own for those people talking about how low inflation has been. Preferably after they've been heated in a superforge.
27. Lets ask that policeman.
So true. I wouldn't trust a policeman to tell me truth about whether or not it was raining in a monsoon. The police are NOT your friends, and they actively hate you.
36. I love my health care coverage.
Useless. Useless.
Not bad overall, but you can tell the guy has more experience with the upper crust than us. Humorous though, for the most part.
Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)You can find things there that aren't available anywhere else for a buck.
Sunglasses and readers for one.
Shandris
(3,447 posts)That's a good point; being a glasses person myself, I didn't even give that a thought (and I was strictly thinking groceries to begin with, not other goods, although looking back on the post I don't know why I got stuck on that). Now that I think of other goods, yah they have all sorts of dishwares, flatwares, measuring cups and other baking goods, oven mitts (although I do splurge on my over mitt, because the ones with a rubber interior help me open jars too and that's important!), and all kinds of other things.
And cards! 99 cent cards for holidays are very important; forget that 3-4.50 junk. I think my mind was half on vacation or something during that post.
Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)They're starting to get strawberries now. The market charges $3.50 or more for the same size.
Shandris
(3,447 posts)...although my grandmother called me a few minutes ago to tell me strawberries at Aldi were onsale for 99 cents, so that makes me happier than a bug in a rug. Strawberry glaze pie this weekend, wooo!
And yah, you're right about that cost. $3.50 is what Wal-Mart sells strawberries for, and that's just a no-go. About the only reasonable produce they have is lettuce and grapes, and I dunno know it is but their grapes make me ill. It's something about a pesticide, I'm almost certain; I always get a chemically taste from them, then my head spins and my skin starts burning all the way down to my abdomen. I had to stop getting those, even though they were huge (I called them 'nuclear grapes' lol).
Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)I'm old enough to remember when Concords were in the market.
Now they offer seedless purple which are just a hybrid of seedless green. Then you'll find "Globe" grapes. Which also taste like green seedless but are a little bigger, purple, and have a seed.
Concords are what they use to make grape jelly. We're talking a grape that you can use to make a pie.
Daveparts3
(49 posts)Yeah, upper crust; homeless for four of the last five years. I shop at the dollar store cause you can get a toothbrush for a buck or dental floss or toilet paper. All that upper crust stuff.
Shandris
(3,447 posts)...I said that it seemed you had more -experience- with them. If I'm wrong (and I have no reason to not believe you, so I will operate under the assumption that I am), I'll be the first to extend my apology and do so right now; my comment wasn't intended to offend. It simply seemed to me that some of the comments were more of an oft-heard caricature of poor people instead of poor people themselves; perhaps that's just true in my part of the country, or it is more true elsewhere than here. Our perceptions are (as I'm quite sure you know) easily colored by our experience, and sometimes we don't even notice that coloring occurring until after the fact.
Again though, I seem to have really upset you and for that I do apologize.
Scruffy Rumbler
(961 posts)Mom is flying in to give me some ideas...(heard at the dog park as her dog crapped 3 feet from her and she left the crap there.)
89. Which account should we take that out of?
90.We didn't like the grain. We had the workers change the woodwork 5 times before we found what we liked.