Karl Rove shocks Fox News panel by doubling down on Hillary’s ‘brain injury'

[DonViejo]

By David Edwards
Sunday, May 18, 2014 10:23 EDT

Republican strategist Karl Rove stunned Fox News panelists on Sunday when he refused to stop suggesting that Hillary Clinton had a “brain injury” even after his own party had shunned him for the personal attack.

On Fox News Sunday, Fox News contributor Juan Williams asked Rove if he was actually helping Hillary Clinton with his recent remarks that generated headlines insinuating that she was too “brain damaged” to run for president.

“I’m not the person who said brain damage!” Rove insisted. “A concussion is by definition a traumatic brain injury.”

“Karl! Come one!” Fox News contributor Kirsten Power claimed.

“So is a blood clot in the brain,” Rove added. “My point is this, she’s a human being. You would not be human, and not have a serious brain injury — like this was — and take it into consideration if you’re thinking about going and doing what she might do.”

“This was concern for her?” Fox New host Chris Wallace asked.

“Yeah,” Rove replied. “Concern as one human being to another, but I’m more concerned about people who say, ‘You know, she’s in, this is a done deal.’ I’m not so certain. My brain says she’s running, my gut says this is going to be far more serious.”

Watch this video from Fox News’ Fox News Sunday, broadcast May 18, 2014.

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/05/18/karl-rove-shocks-fox-news-panel-by-doubling-down-on-hillarys-brain-injury/

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Posted with permission

[alcibiades_mystery]

1. What did his gut tell him about the votes remaining to be counted in Ohio

What a loser.

[Cha]

78. Rove's "gut" said.. we stole it in 2004.. and WAH WAH WAH.. why

can't we do again.

[randys1]

2. If this country had any decency, this man would be in prison for life

If the average person knew what he has done to this country, he would be hung at noon in the town square

Yes, that 25% who vehemently hate america and americans would defend him, but the rest of us would be beside ourselves if we knew the truth

Hell, does the average person know that it is a fact Nixon and Reagan both made deals with america's enemies to get them elected?

[freshwest]

62. +1,000

[chervilant]

3. Poor Karl Rove...

LARGELY irrelevant...

(Just keeping in line with his "personal insults" routine...)

[canuckledragger]

8. Personal insults and smears

Are all Turdblossom has left, his credibility was after he failed to steal the last presidential election.

We are watching his death spiral now.

[Rosa Luxemburg]

76. He is disrespectful

He is past his sell-by date

[GoneFishin]

4. I read somewhere that he may be a child molester. I can't remember where.

[Treant]

9. That's now the second time

I've read that Karl Rove might molest children.

I'm starting to wonder now if the story has legs. Why won't the media cover this?

[brer cat]

10. It's on facebook

so it has to be true.

[Voice for Peace]

20. 4 times for me, Karl Rove a child molester

i keep seeing it.. must be true

[rickford66]

31. Well, some people are saying that.

[Voice for Peace]

47. I think it is fair to say he has been the architect of a great deal of child abuse.

The children of Iraq come to mind. And all children who have suffered
on account of his dishonesty. And his abuse of innocence, in general.
I think I have a title for his next book.

The Abuse of Innocence by Karl Rove

Maybe someone here can write a blurb for it.

[dixiegrrrrl]

48. I read that too.

Very very recently.

smoke, fire...you know.

[demigoddess]

43. it definitely has legs

I heard that once on a gossip column.

[awoke_in_2003]

52. I know for a fact

that he never molested a child over 10 years of age

[GoneFishin]

68. Well then we know he does not have a taste for older kids. That only leaves the really young ones.

So now we are starting to learn more about him.

[Arugula Latte]

70. I know someone in the RNC who says that they've been trying to keep that under wraps.

There has been a big coverup so that people don't find out about Karl Rove's criminal behavior with children.

[Thinkingabout]

5. If Hillary has brain injury she is still ahead of Bush and Rove was known as the brain for Bush

and Bush never stopped showing a lack in brain power so I am not worried about Hillary being capable of performing duties of president. Rove would like for Hillary and all other Democrats running for president.

[Warpy]

6. ...thereby demonstrating his profound ignorance of TBIs and their prognoses.

I took care of patients who had been scraped off the pavement and arrived comatose with tubes all over the place and part of their skull missing. 6 months later, they'd be walking and talking.

If Clinton has any aftereffects from a mild concussion, they're not visible ones. In any case, she's a couple of years out and if any were there, she'd have learned to compensate. Concussion is only bad when it's repeated before an old injury is healed. That's why boxers get punch drunk and football players end up with pseudo Parkinsonism.

Meanwhile, Rove will never discover that he's stupid and stupidity is an untreatable condition.

Bless his heart.

[AngryAmish]

32. She is going to put the lie to this real quick

All she has to do is release the latest results feom her neuropsychological battery of test and she will prove what a shit for brains Rove is.

[Warpy]

54. Exactly, even if she had some aftereffects

(and if I can't pick 'em up, they aint there), she'd do better on a part of a brain than Rove has ever done with all of his.

[karynnj]

56. She won't do that -- and if she did it likely would not convince the right

Consider that John Kerry DID put every fitness report that he received in Vietnam and other reports on his web site where anyone could read them for over a year. The right STILL argues that he has not released his records! - Why? No documents on being a horrible person, sailor and American and no dishonorable discharge. They STILL say those things happened even when after the election he signed to give three newspapers everything - and they wrote that everything except one cover letter for his last fitness report in Vietnam was on the web. The missing cover letter? It recommended him for accelerated promotion!

In this case, the hospital, the doctor and everyone else would likely be called in the cover up. After all, some on the right would say, how do we even know these are Clinton's results.

In reality, everyone will have the opportunity to see Clinton as a Presidential nominee. There are not many things requiring more mental agility and pure endurance. It will be Clinton's performance that will that will completely defuse this for the vast majority of people -- and the loony right can believe what they want because they never would vote for her.

While this is as nasty as the birther and swiftboat attacks, it is in fact weaker because JUST by being who she is, there is no way a fair minded viewer will be convinced there was any long term brain damage -- when a MONTH later she testified for a total of about 7 hours on Benghazi.

[malaise]

7. The more I hear from Rove is the more I understand why his

mother committed suicide - had a I spawned such a despicable human being I too would kill myself.

[heaven05]

11. trying to sound concerned

this is one evil individual. Will do anything to keep the rich, white, RW male racist landowner-greedy banker-fascist corporatist in control of amerika. Will do or say anything!!!

[JHB]

12. Karl Rove's "genius" is simple brazenness. Repeat as needed.

Dog knows he'll keep repeating, for as long as he can get people to give him money.

[awoke_in_2003]

53. Yep

he goes where decent people won't.

[elias7]

13. Effects from a concussion are temporary

And most recover fully. TBI patients (who meet the more relevant definition of lasting brain injury) were discussed upstream, range from being moderately disabled to totally dependent on nursing care. Not always pretty, unlike our beautiful once and future queen...

[Sunlei]

14. and all the republicans bloggers push those key words in every headline.

don't give republican-fox any views on their rove smears.

[joshcryer]

15. It's going to be one crazy election.

[allinthegame]

16. Asserting

the child molester 'thing' puts DU comments in the same league as the trash Rove it talking.
How can we diss him if we are him.

[bvar22]

46. There it is again.

So many people using "child molester" and "Karl Rove" in the same paragraph!

[pangaia]

17. Cheney doens't even have his own heart..

for f*** sake !!

Or any heart, I know, I know...

[3catwoman3]

58. When Cheney received his heart transplant...

...I could not help but hope that it had not come from a Democrat.

[tavernier]

18. Dubya was brain damaged before he ran.

That didn't stop Rove from engineering him into office.

Oh and, btw, when did k-k-k-kaka get his MD? As a nurse myself, I know that only physicians are allowed to diagnose.

[calimary]

23. Yes, you have a good point, tavernier! kkkarl certainly spent a lot of time working closely

with and assisting and advancing the brain damaged, didn't he? A brain-damaged decades-long alcoholic and dry drunk who couldn't utter a complete sentence without slurred words. Hey, kkkarl thought that one was the closest thing to God on toast and jam.

[calimary]

19. I am SO DAMNED TIRED of kkkarl rove.

Get thee GONE!

[Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin]

21. Dr. Rove

Inventor of the do it yourself colonoscopy. It just requires flexibility and the ability to relax one's sphincter.

[Scarsdale]

33. Selfie

At first it looks like one of W's paintings of himself!! Did Rove EVER explain what the male prostitute, Jeff Gannon was doing at the WH so often? KKKarl divorced his wife (beard) right after he left the WH. Karl was known in the gay community in DC as "Miss Piggy" I see he is wearing a wedding ring, did he marry Jeff or another guy?

[ewagner]

22. Reminds me of a line from a movie....

The movie was High Fidelity and it was delivered by John Cusack...and it went like this:

"He who thinks with his gut has shit for brains!"


If the shoe fits Karl...by all means wear it.

[nolabear]

24. Poor Karl. He's trying SO hard to be relevant. And failing so miserably.

The envy and desperation just roll off like a bad stink.

[Jefferson23]

25. He is trying to save face. He must be furious how this back fired, lol. They don't

have anything much on SoS Clinton..it is freaking him out so early on.

Goes without saying, but I will add it regardless..he is a criminal who should be in jail.

[smallcat88]

26. Moldy brain

Rove's brain is in far worse condition than Clinton's. Consensus is he's always worked this way; sling some mud and keep the narrative going to put doubts in the voter's minds. But he used to be more covert about it, never allowing himself to be directly linked to his own filth. His reaction to Ohio in the last election should have been a warning sign. He's getting old and losing his touch. Something everyone with a functioning brain should rejoice, even his own are taking him less seriously. Let's hope that trend continues!

[n2doc]

27. ...

[Helen Borg]

28. It does not take a genius to predict that...

Rove will have a heart attack in the near future.

[calimary]

50. Not possible. You have to have a heart to have a heart attack.

[WinkyDink]

29. Runnin' scared, people. runnin' scared.

[BootinUp]

30. This is typical KKKRove. Attack your opponents strength

Hillary's strengths are her stamina and experience and intelligence.

[EEO]

34. This is the man who made George W. Bush president (with a big assist from the Supreme Court).

The irony of him attacking anyone for being brain-damaged is epic. George W. Bush was probably the worst president this republic has ever had and the damage he caused to the country is widespread and all around us.

[jimlup]

36. Was thinking this exactly...

but apparently Republicans don't "get" irony.

[demigoddess]

75. Cheney has jumped in on this

and his heart was on its last legs when he ran for VP a heartbeat away from the Oval Office. He had what ? 5? heart attacks before he became VP?

[jimlup]

35. I actually thought Rove was smarter than this...

Not giving him that much credit but this seems like a stupid move even for him. It may play well with his base but the undecided voters will reject it and likely even sympathize with the Hillary over it instantly.

[GeorgeGist]

37. Leopards do not change their spots.

"We're an empire now, and when we act, we create our own reality. And while you're studying that reality—judiciously, as you will—we'll act again, creating other new realities, which you can study too, and that's how things will sort out. We're history's actors…and you, all of you, will be left to just study what we do."

[Rowdyboy]

38. They're going to call Ohio for Rmoney any minute now! You just wait! KKKarl is never wrong

except when he opens his mouth.

[napkinz]

39. "He's America's Joseph Goebbels ..."

Exposing Karl Rove

By Wayne Madsen
November 2002

[font size="3"]He's America's Joseph Goebbels. As a 21-year old Young Republican in Texas, Karl Rove not only pimped for Richard Nixon's chief political dirty tricks strategist Donald Segretti but soon caught the eye of the incoming Republican National Committee Chairman, George H. W. Bush. Rove's dirty tricks on behalf of Nixon's 1972 campaign catapulted Rove onto the national stage. From his Eagle's Nest in the West Wing of the White House, Rove now directs a formidable political dirty tricks operation and disinformation mill.[/font]

Since his formative political years when he tried to paint World War II B-24 pilot and hero George McGovern as a left-wing peacenik through his mid-level career as a planter of disinformation in the media on behalf of Texas and national GOP candidates to his current role as Dubya's "Svengali," Rove has practiced the same style of slash and burn politics as did his Nixonian mentor Segretti. Many of us remember the Lincolnesque Senator Ed Muskie breaking down in tears during the 1972 campaign over Segretti-planted false stories in a New Hampshire newspaper that accused Mrs. Muskie of being a heavy smoker, drinker, and cusser and accused Muskie of uttering a slur in describing New Hampshire's French Canadian population. Rove's hero also forged letters on fake Muskie campaign letterhead, disrupted rallies and fundraising dinners, and spread false stories about the sex lives of candidates. Segretti's brush also smeared George McGovern, George Wallace, Shirley Chisholm, and McGovern's first vice presidential choice, Senator Tom Eagleton. Segretti of course did not go on to a high-level White House job -- he was sentenced to six months in federal prison for distributing illegal campaign material.

In many respects, however, the apprentice Rove has far exceeded the chicanery and evil-mindedness of his mentor Segretti. Rove is a tech-savvy puppet master for Bush. Take, for example, last June's discovery of a "lost" CD-ROM in Lafayette Park across from the White House. Contained on the CD was a PowerPoint presentation given by White House political director Ken Mehlman to Rove on the strategy for next Tuesday's off-year election. The slide show showed First Brother Jeb Bush being vulnerable in Florida. Jeb Bush later joked that the disc was part of a plot cooked up by him and his brother to make it appear that he was vulnerable in order to rally an otherwise complacent GOP base in the Sunshine State. Or was it a joke? Jeb Bush and his political minions like Katherine Harris have shown us that if anyone thinks what the GOP has done in Florida is funny they have an incredibly sick sense of humor.

Rove's own tendency to be sick-minded originates with his mentor Segretti. The 2000 GOP primary was a chance for Rove to hone his skills in dirty tricks. His target then was Senator John McCain who appeared to be within striking distance of Dubya in South Carolina after the then-GOP maverick's surprise upset victory in New Hampshire. Rove's operation proceeded to target McCain with false stories: McCain was a stoolie for his captors in the Hanoi Hilton (this from a lunatic self-promoting Vietnam "veteran&quot ; McCain fathered a black daughter out of wedlock (a despicable reference to McCain's adopted Bangladeshi daughter); Cindy McCain's drug "abuse"; and even McCain's "homosexuality." In the spirit of Segretti, Rove engineered a victory for Dubya but at the cost of trashing an honorable man and his family. Muskie, McGovern, Carter, Mondale, Dukakis, Gore, Hart, Tsongas, Clinton, Biden, Dole, Perot, and others had all seen the Segretti/Rove slash and burn tactics before.

And Rove's penchant for fascistic demagoguery and outright lying continues to this very day. After Paul Wellstone's sons asked that Vice President Dick Cheney not attend the Minneapolis memorial service for their father, mother, and sister, the White House explained that the real reason wasn't the surviving Wellstone family's abhorrence for Cheney but the fact the family didn't want Cheney's Secret Service protection to interfere with public access to the service. Of course, the Rove and Ari Fleischer disinformation machine forgot to take into account that two attendees, Bill and Hillary Clinton, had their own Secret Service details. But such is the case with a White House that takes its lessons from Goebbels and the editorial staff of the old Soviet News Agency Tass.

Rove's dirty fingerprints could also be seen in the Iowa Senate race between Tom Harkin and GOP candidate Greg Ganske. ...

read more: http://rense.com/general31/EXPs.htm and http://counterpunch.org/madsen1101.html

[thucythucy]

40. Considering all the veterans who came home from Iraq

with actual traumatic brain injury, and his role in making that happen, Rove's use of TBI as a political hack talking point smear is particularly disgusting.

NOW he's all concerned about TBI, huh?

Turdblossom is right.

[deutsey]

67. And it doesn't bother him in the slightest n/t

[tooeyeten]

41. This is priceless!

Karl Rove
"My brain says she’s running"

Karl Rove's brain versus the brain of Hillary!

[chknltl]

42. Turdblossom changes to Fartpetels and Fartpetels changes to....

...Stickinthemud . Darwin would have called it devolution had he been here to see it.

[Wounded Bear]

44. And by having the argument...

even if some are "defending" Hillary, they cement the idea in some people's mind that this is a legitimate line of thought.

Well, if they are discussing it, it must be a serious issue.

Evil bastards. But given his last line in that quote, there may be someone he thinks might be a more formiddable foe than Hillary.

“Yeah,” Rove replied. “Concern as one human being to another, but I’m more concerned about people who say, ‘You know, she’s in, this is a done deal.’ I’m not so certain. My brain says she’s running, my gut says this is going to be far more serious.”

Elizabeth Warren, anybody? Conservatives biggest fear, I think, is that the Dems will put up a populist candidate that actually runs on Democratic ideals, like those espoused and enacted by FDR.

[napkinz]

45. ...

[spanone]

49. reince preibus also defended kkkarl on MTP. fuck all of them

[Initech]

51. And Karl suffers from corpo encephalopathy.

Which in layman's terms means "shit for brains".

[Lucinda]

55. Wow...he may be more afraid of her than I thought he was.... n/t

[Mz Pip]

57. First they said she was faking it.

Her fall was just a stunt to get sympathy and she was just faking it. I hope someone calls them on this about face.

[3catwoman3]

59. Rove is not a...

...turdblossom. He is just a turd.

[napkinz]

60. ...

[ecstatic]

61. I think Rove is attempting to take Christie's weight off the table.

With the help of Fox news. They're pretending to chastise him now, then he'll see the light just in time to say that Christie's obesity should also be off limits (and the panel will agree).

My view is that the public has the right to inspect a presidential candidate's health records, but pundits DO NOT have the right to lie, slander and speculate the way Rove has.

[tonybgood]

63. Any candidate that uses Rove should be shunned by the voters

because that candidate would have to have "brain damage" to use Rove in their campaign!

[El Shaman]

64. ".......My brain says she’s running, my gut says this is going to be far more serious.”"

Karl: big gut -little brain.

[joanbarnes]

65. Karl Rove THINKS he is a Human Being???????

[Arugula Latte]

66. Projection.

[paulkienitz]

69. this is good tactics

They know that Rove is now too tainted to act as a real pundit anymore, and his credibility is shot. That makes him the perfect carrier for a message which on the surface they can disavow -- they can be seen very publicly pushing Rove away with an eleven foot pole, but they still make sure this sleaze gets its airtime and becomes part of the discourse.

It's rather like the story of LBJ once starting a rumor that his opponent fucked pigs. "Just make the SOB deny it."

[bearssoapbox]

71. Hey KKKarl

?w=600

[Egnever]

72. Sorry not buying the idea

That fox news was shocked. Much more likely they brought him on specifically to repeat it.

[deurbano]

73. Stephen Colbert sketch? "My brain says she’s running, my GUT says this is going to be far more

serious."

[McCamy Taylor]

74. I think Turd Blossom may be projecting some anger at his own mother onto Mother Hillary

His own mom had emotional issues that Hillary does not have. Everyone seems to project their mother onto Hillary. Her chances probably depend upon how the majority of Americans think their mother would do as president. Obviously, Rove's mother would not have been a good president. But there are a lot of people who think their own mom would have been fine. Mine would be a great pres.

[tonybgood]

77. At least Hillary has a brain!!!

Rove's brain depends on his gut to tell him what is happening in the world.

[rupertps8or28]

79. What a classless, stupid pig.

I really don't understand why Rove isn't in jail for the BS he put us all through.

[uppityperson]

80. +1, I agree, wish for retribution.

now that is more like it

[Laura PourMeADrink]

81. He's a jerk...BUT what I have always wondered about was

why Chelsea was so upset when she left the hospital. They
didn't play it up but said she was extremely upset. It struck
me as odd - more reaction compared to what they said was wrong - or perhaps
nothing - just over emotional that day.

[King_Klonopin]

82. Karl's medical records revealed that he has no hemorrhoids.

In other words, he is a perfect asshole.

He also has no sense of shame.

[VA_Jill]

83. Ol' Doc Rove

is a living example of a botched rectocraniectomy.

[marble falls]

84. Once again Karl Rove has refused to confitm he is a registered sex offender. I personally don't ....

think he isn't a registered sex offender. But I do find it curious that he missed two public opportunities to put these unfortunate and uninformed rumors to rest. It certainly begs the question: What is Karl rove hiding?

[napkinz]

85. oh Karl ...