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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsHave you checked out Skinner's new toy?
have you posted there? What do you think about it?
oldhippie
(3,249 posts)I find it much more civil than here. I probably won't be around here much for awhile as I explore and get to know the folks on the other site.
pscot
(21,023 posts)As a die-hard climate doomer, there's no substitute for the E&E group on DU. It's the best clearing house for information on AGW that I know of.
hatrack
(59,442 posts)Did you know the Himalayan glaciers are NOT MELTING?!??!!!?!?
pscot
(21,023 posts)it's got bells on.
hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)hlthe2b
(101,730 posts)am put off by having to read RW talking points regurgitated word-for-word on so many posts.
DU helps to fill a daily comprehensive news appetite and I hear what RW horror is being instigated as well--but without a Faux news perspective. Given I haven't watched more than 30 seconds of Fox in more than a decade, that is just fine with me. While the gun posts often blend RW perspectives, most of DU is on the moderate side of the spectrum and thus, doesn't blow my BP off the scale...
Discussionist, on the other hand, brings that crap right into my home--via my computer. Not something I really want to do...
etherealtruth
(22,165 posts)It may or may not be for me. I posted twice (benign posts in benign threads).
Skinner and the "gang" provided a tremendous outlet (DU) for the frustrations during the Bush "reign of terror" (admitted hyperbole). I will be forever grateful for that ... and wish them much success with Discussionist
SidDithers
(44,228 posts)I hope it's a huge success, and becomes one of the biggest open-forum discussion boards on the 'net.
But it's not DU.
Sid
pscot
(21,023 posts)etherealtruth
(22,165 posts)lpbk2713
(42,696 posts)I browsed it a few times and decided thanks but no thanks.
City Lights
(25,171 posts)enthused about the other site now than I was originally. I will continue to see how it goes over there, but at the moment, I'm finding it difficult to stomach some of what gets posted over there.
pscot
(21,023 posts)seriously. You will get push back, and if you think all conservatives are stupid, think again.
hunter
(38,264 posts)...and I don't tend to have many problems with the not stupid.
Anyone who recognizes where their own core competence is, and where they don't know damned thing, those conservatives are fairly functional in polite society.
I'd call one of my grandfathers a "conservative," but only in a first-half-of-the-twentieth century sense. He was upset when I married, in his words, "A Mexican girl." But he got past that, after he'd dodged our Big Catholic Wedding. If he'd lived this long he'd probably accepted homosexual marriages too.
He did not entirely understand gay people but he protected them. Gay people were safe in his house, and my parents' house too. Hanging out, watching television, smooching on the sofa, other public displays of affection, okay. Sadly, my parents had to teach us as kids that what happens in our house stays in our house. Like later, Las Vegas.
During World War II my grandpa was the handsome Army Air Force officer with the big black car and driver carrying the "Get Out of Jail Free Card" for various misfits deemed essential to the war effort. His friendships with homosexuals, "Negroes" (in his words), Japanese, Italians, Jews, Germans, and various others not quite acceptable in U.S.A. apartheid society were entirely honest and straightforward. His wife was White Protestant California, born in San Francisco. His family was Wyoming and Montana, jumped ship and ran for the Wild West, probably because someone was chasing them. Somewhere in his life adventure my grandfather became a wizard of titanium. Parts of the Apollo moon landing were his, he drew them, he spec'd them, machined some, and held them in his hands.
My other grandfather was a Conscientious Objector and pacifist during World War II. They gave him a choice: Jail or building Liberty and Victory ships. He decided to build ships. He got beat up by the cops protesting the Japanese internment. His wife, my grandma too, built ships by day. After work she danced with sailors.
My mom's parents were not conservatives. They were escapees from the Utah Mormon hegemony. My grandpa knew Sally Rand. My mom, on occasion, as a little kid, got to hang out with many nice ladies. These nice ladies were her daycare providers while her parents were working as welders in the shipyards, they protected her while her mom was dancing with sailors for drinks and tips and her dad was working double shifts plus.
Anyways, I have conservative Christian (and Catholic, if the distinction matters...) family I can talk with. Not like family members, now mostly deceased who were just bat-shit racist, homophobic, misogynist, Fox News watching, hell-dwellers, no reasoning with.
My most conservative Catholic extended family doesn't always "get it" but they respect the Good Samaritans and do not hate the "other" outside their own community.
lumberjack_jeff
(33,224 posts)nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)and then quickly logged off.
I really do not care for the place, and the fixation of certain posters on people here.
So it has gone into the category of the Conservative Cave as far as I am concerned. I do not care to even visit anymore.
Squinch
(50,774 posts)already taken place here, but now with RW talking points, which I don't really see adding to the conversation. But as I have said elsewhere, if some of our compatriots here can educate any RWers over there, power to them.
pscot
(21,023 posts)though it's true, some have expressed disaffection with our happy little band. I'm a little surprised with the amount of attention we seem to get from conservative web sites.
Squinch
(50,774 posts)rrneck
(17,671 posts)Not better, not worse. Just different.
NutmegYankee
(16,178 posts)There are a gazillion boards out there infested with right wingers. I joined DU a decade ago to get away from it.
laundry_queen
(8,646 posts)ismnotwasm
(41,921 posts)I was going to, but I figured why bother, I have here and other places, and I don't need the headache or even the entertainment value.
Although, I wish I had time and the info to do an analysis of who posts what where-- I bet it would fascinating
pscot
(21,023 posts)ismnotwasm
(41,921 posts)I was thinking of a snapshot study-- it would never happen, but it would be interesting
NuclearDem
(16,184 posts)against BS, PRATT, and subtle bigotry.
steve2470
(37,457 posts)what is PRATT ?
NuclearDem
(16,184 posts)steve2470
(37,457 posts)HipChick
(25,485 posts)pscot
(21,023 posts)with our superior insight and wisdom?
dipsydoodle
(42,239 posts)if everything posted in OPs there was copied across to GD here.
Revanchist
(1,375 posts)Well maybe not that many but you get the point.
Cleita
(75,480 posts)It seems the DUers who don't like it are the same ones who can't handle a divergent opinion. The ones who do are the DUers who make the best contributions here, so I have hopes.
Arugula Latte
(50,566 posts)Greeeat.
Response to Arugula Latte (Reply #17)
seaglass This message was self-deleted by its author.
Ed Suspicious
(8,879 posts)encourages people to start fresh there.
NuclearDem
(16,184 posts)Specifically to keep trolls from impersonating us.
You can PM Elad and request him to unlock it for you.
dipsydoodle
(42,239 posts)I thought Skinner had said all id applications would first be vetted against DU ids to prevent that.
11 Bravo
(23,922 posts)DU usernames are supposed to have been excluded from Discussionist unless you yourself ask to use it there as well.
Electric Monk
(13,869 posts)Arugula Latte
(50,566 posts)I haven't really been reading about Discussionist and I went to sign up to reserve my name and it said it has been taken. D'oh!
pscot
(21,023 posts)Ed Suspicious
(8,879 posts)Picked a different one and am participating.i was blown away to find a poster with 480 posts already! I thought it just started. I like that blue dogs can be criticized over there without fear of upsetting the party. A position is a position. Any aRe open to harsh criticism. People are who they are over there. That's a good thing.
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)I resent that comment. Though there are things I no longer touch upon here, and that has to do with the environment. But the goading early on... I just secured an old name and will leave it at that.
As to user names, apparently they did it so lovely people could not start posting under Ed Suspicious and make you look bad. That I applaud on their part.
Ed Suspicious
(8,879 posts)There is only opinion on policy and if my idea of a liberal policy is one that would be viewed by centrist liberals as purist, then so be it. There seems to be more room on the face of it to express opinion without the framework of advancing democratic party objectives. One is able to advance liberal objectives as they view them without party induced repercussions. Do you still resent the comment? I hope not.
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)As I said, there are things I do not longer say here. But I find myself doing that at other places too.
The general environment has quite degraded.
hunter
(38,264 posts)I'm not the sort of person who ever tailors my words to my audience and I have the scars to show for it. But I rarely run into trouble on DU, even when I'm in my most filthy mouthed radical lefty socialist environmentalist place.
Maybe because I'm also a realist of some sort. I voted for Obama, and I think he is a competent President, especially for a nation so twisted it didn't recognize either Reagan or George W. Bush as venal incurious puppets. (Bush senior was a little different, like Dick Cheney the undead, or Romney the smirking psychopath, Bush Sr. didn't always need the hand of Satan up his ass making his lips move; sometimes he could do evil all by himself.)
My fear for discussionist is that it will be boring if it's flooded with regurgitated mass-media corporate right wing crap, misogyny, racism, anti-intellectualism, gun humping, and all the other puke "I'd do Her!" commentary that infects so many places.
As Colbert says, reality has a well-known liberal bias.
pscot
(21,023 posts)Remains to be seen how well that works.
SidDithers
(44,228 posts)Mostly, tho, I'm happy that it seems to have sucked most of the disrupters and trolls out of DU.
MIRT has been much less busy since Tuesday.
Sid
Squinch
(50,774 posts)This is what I hoped would happen when they announced it.
Do you know if that reduction in MIRT work was affected by the computer-monster problems they were experiencing last week, when no one could log on?
SidDithers
(44,228 posts)but I just checked the new sign-up board, and only 18 of the last 50 registrations have been PPR'd.
Prior to discussionist, that number would often be closer to 30 of the last 50 registration.
Also, if feels like there are fewer threads being started in the MIRT forum, though the numbers may not actually back that up.
I'd be curious if any other MIRTers feel the same way.
Sid
Squinch
(50,774 posts)BainsBane
(53,003 posts)DUers banned for misogyny, transphobia, homophobia, threatening women with rape, that sort of thing, are all over there. Add to them the guys who feel oppressed over being stifled in expressing any of the above, and that creates a certain outlook.
And then you have the cavers and Republicans, who seem more progressive than the above group on gender issues. It's pretty funny watching the Republican guys try to figure out the MRAs' trip.
It's interesting. That's for sure.
greatauntoftriplets
(175,698 posts)Kelvin Mace
(17,469 posts)the place is crawling with them.
Electric Monk
(13,869 posts)They just LUV talking about their preciouses, at any opportunity. Fap-tastic! Gunz are teh AWESOME!
BainsBane
(53,003 posts)Will probably be especially useful as the elections kick in. The more time they are over there, the less here.
Lancero
(2,983 posts)ALERTER'S COMMENTS
An extremely disgusting insult directed at a DU group. For those who may not know, fap means jerking off.
You served on a randomly-selected Jury of DU members which reviewed this post. The review was completed at Sun May 18, 2014, 02:40 PM, and the Jury voted 2-5 to LEAVE IT.
Juror #1 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #2 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: Nope, not seeing it.
Juror #3 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: *shrugs* What's really disgusting was how many of them in that group defended guns after Sandy Hook. This is a speck of dust compared to that.
Juror #4 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #5 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: His comment - faptastic - was directed at guns, not the DU group.
Juror #6 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: Such filthy filthy language to use in alert! Shame on you! Leave.
Juror #7 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation:
Mocking, derogatory drivel is so bad, it makes the whole internet suck.
Squinch
(50,774 posts)Lancero
(2,983 posts)I'll go add them.
Squinch
(50,774 posts)I love that jury!
Electric Monk
(13,869 posts)Erich Bloodaxe BSN
(14,733 posts)etherealtruth
(22,165 posts)I did not serve on the jury
totodeinhere
(13,037 posts)is that just your guess based upon what you have read over there? As we speak there is an ongoing thread asking people why they were banned from DU. The overwhelming response in the thread is "I have not been banned form DU." Yes there are a few who have admitted to being banned but not many.
BainsBane
(53,003 posts)Reading what the same members have posted in different threads. You figure out who least some are after awhile.
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BainsBane
(53,003 posts)I think some others recently banned for similar things are over there too.
seaglass
(8,170 posts)to tell one from another.
BainsBane
(53,003 posts)but someone who recognized something unique to him PMed me. I believe he was right about Vashta's new name.
Squinch
(50,774 posts)seaglass
(8,170 posts)CreekDog
(46,192 posts)Anyone who thinks they weren't posting here under new names after their PPR's is being overly charitable.
SidDithers
(44,228 posts)Sid
Starry Messenger
(32,342 posts)Squinch
(50,774 posts)I read some but tired quickly of, "I hate this DUer, I hate that DUer, can I say b*** here? HoF and AA were so MEAN to me! 9/11 was an inside job!"
Maybe it'll settle into some thing interesting, but I think there is also a possibility that it will turn into an echo chamber in which the members complain about what an echo chamber DU is.
BainsBane
(53,003 posts)Yep, that too. That basically fits in with my above observation because you're right that they are complaining about HOF and the BOG. I think the latter has become code, at least among some, for African Americans.
Squinch
(50,774 posts)I do think that many of the great disruptors are over there, so I expect that the threads will become contentious due to their presence rather than the subject matter.
TBF
(31,922 posts)with the design it looked to me like they were going after a younger demographic. But if all it does is clean up DU a bit that's ok too.
Kelvin Mace
(17,469 posts)since all other forums are endless arguments and flame wars. I don't see how they expect to make any money on the site.
penultimate
(1,110 posts)I think they really just want to see what can develop from it. It seems like an interesting site to me. Although, I'm a little bit less excited than I was at first, because there does seem to be some people on both the right and left who refuse to check their unneeded snark. Totally unhelpful to start a conversation with someone by basically calling them a dummy or moron before they can even respond. There is also, or at least was, a lot of posts about DU and DUers. That just seems to be going the wrong way, and I highly doubt that was the intentions that the admins had.
Overall though, there is some decent discussions that can be had if you're talking to the right people. Not all the conservatives visiting there are incapable of having a civil discussion. They might be wrong, but they can be wrong a civil way.
But back to the money issue, they seem to be getting a lot of traffic. So I they might be making some decent moneys just on ad views. I also try to click on an interesting ad every so often to give my support.
Kelvin Mace
(17,469 posts)when someone starts off with the usual rightwing buzzwords like "Obummer", "lamestream media", "gun grabbers", etc, I have ZERO desire to participate. These are not people who can be reasoned with and who are impervious to logic and rational thought.
Over here, that gets your ass bounced. Over there it is "acceptable" discourse. I there until the tech forum gets invaded with the same "thinking", then I'm done.
ScreamingMeemie
(68,918 posts)to talk about it.
Raine1967
(11,589 posts)I'm a veteran of many forums that are long gone -- many started as a result of a falling out, etc.. I will wait until things settle down and take a look later.
I think Skinner is doing something very interesting here, to be honest. I think that the group will be a way to take away some of the borderline disrupters here and it will settle in after a few months. IT won't until (imo) this back and forth second hand discussion threads peter off.
Warren Stupidity
(48,181 posts)ScreamingMeemie
(68,918 posts)Cha
(295,929 posts)ScreamingMeemie
(68,918 posts)I'm kind of a boring girl.
Cha
(295,929 posts)discussion on it.
ScreamingMeemie
(68,918 posts)IronGate
(2,186 posts)of course there will be growing pains, but they should eventually work themselves out.
It's a wonderful relief valve for DU, IMO, and I've been giving it a spin around the block.
There's a few bad apples so far, left and right, but those will be taken care of in due time.
My user name over there is Irony.
Hope that doesn't get me in dutch here for giving out that information.
calimary
(80,700 posts)Life's just too short to have to deal with the contrarians I'm told are over there, including those who tend to get banned from here, and other assorted trolls. I guess everybody's gotta go somewhere, and I'm glad they can find a place for themselves. We're all battered, all day every day, by the onslaught of contrived and processed and researched and focus-group-tested and massaged and catapulted propaganda from others NOT of like mind. It gets awfully tiresome.Sometimes I just get weary of battling with people who take pride in their ignorance and anti-social preferences. I come HERE to DU to get into a relatively safe haven OUT of that. I'd rather stay here to get some relief from all of that.
totodeinhere
(13,037 posts)Why don't you try it yourself rather than going by what others have told you? Personally I don't find it too bad and there are plenty of DU-ers over there whose influence keeps the place pretty sane.
calimary
(80,700 posts)Scootaloo
(25,699 posts)But that would mean actually looking at the place... Did Skinner make it so ugly so that the wingers would feel more comfortable?
Squinch
(50,774 posts)octoberlib
(14,971 posts)retro 80's. I think a movie review forum is a great idea!
MadrasT
(7,237 posts)Scootaloo
(25,699 posts)KoKo
(84,711 posts)I always wished the Admins had given the DU GROUPS more time on the FRONT PAGE...so that people would know about them.
JI7
(89,182 posts)anything politically related you can even post it on here.
MadrasT
(7,237 posts)I am not inclined to want to participate because I don't really enjoy arguing with anonymous strangers on the internet. Although I may create an account so that I can subscribe to keywords, trash by keyword, etc.
The user interface is interesting.
It is also interesting to watch tombstoned DUers rising from the dead.
octoberlib
(14,971 posts)probably spend most of my time here but I like how you can create your own forums on subjects you're interested in. I specifically like the books and Game ofThrones forums. Skinner has stated that Discussionist is NOT a political forum. Don't want to discuss politics? Stay out of the politics forum.
Mr_Harshaw
(19 posts)It would be nice to see some of the same players but without all the special snowflake protection DU provides.
Hope it takes off...
steve2470
(37,457 posts)No, but seriously, I can see its value, but I'm not going to waste time trying to convince those who will never be convinced.
KoKo
(84,711 posts)Seems to me that if it evolves so that people can find their own "Interest Groups" the site might work out the way "DU Original" has evolved. It's just that there could be freer discussions in the "Interest Groups" which wouldn't be protected.
It's too early to tell how it could work out. But, it would be good to see a Weather Tag for those of us who are interested in Weather events across the Globe (sort of like Jeff Masters did at "Weather Underground" which was bought by NBC.)
Unfortunately such a group might devolve into battles over whether Climate Change is Real ...Or Not. So, there's the problem. And, maybe the problem with the site is that there's no "Group Protection" where topics posted can be confined to the subject of the Tagged "Interest Group." If you make the Group Interests "Protected" though...you end up with the battles that have gone on here on Original DU.
But, maybe people will find a way to work around it as the site evolves.
KoKo
(84,711 posts)When I was over there that hadn't yet evolved so the site seemed sort of "Flat." Like it hadn't evolved yet.
steve2470
(37,457 posts)Right now I'm in stealth mode over there, so I'm not going to create a weather tag just yet.
KoKo
(84,711 posts)Many DU'ers love Weather News...and we miss what we used to get on "The Weather Channel" since they turned into some version of the "chuckles and laughs" of "The Today Show."
YES...NOAA weather is "The Source" but some of us like more scientific "discussion" of weather Fronts and Atmosphere, etc. Cause and Effect stuff.
So...if you do it please post so I can go over there and read.
steve2470
(37,457 posts)Ms. Toad
(33,915 posts)Just start a thread and tag it weather.
Cali_Democrat
(30,439 posts)You've gotta be fucking kidding me.
If I wanted to read what right wingers have to say, I would go to Free Republic.
Warren Stupidity
(48,181 posts)I'm shocked.
seaglass
(8,170 posts)boston bean
(36,186 posts)I'm like, well, take yourself out of the gene pool... thank you!
seaglass
(8,170 posts)boston bean
(36,186 posts)cyberswede
(26,117 posts)Revanchist
(1,375 posts)and posted anything that would be considered ban worthy. I have to admit I was sooo tempted to cover that thread with snarky meme images but nope, won't play that game, as tempting as it is. I'll throw a couple in here just so I can get it out of my system...
Ahhh, that's better.
boston bean
(36,186 posts)about the Game boy example in the OP. I just couldn't believe it.
ecstatic
(32,567 posts)Ms. Toad
(33,915 posts)I figured it was nothing I would be interested in wading into - and it wasn't.
GoneOffShore
(17,309 posts)Move goal posts and produce huge straw men.
There's a lot of chess playing pigeons over there.
Union Scribe
(7,099 posts)which is so often the same dreadful mix of off-topic static, gender/race flamewars volume 430, and the never ending whining about Snowden and/or Greenwald.
Shandris
(3,447 posts)Wasn't impressed with the discourse, but wasn't turned off entirely either. Didn't register or post, though. Doubt I will, but I may wake up one day and decide I hate myself enough to try it.
if I wanted to know what asshole conservatives think I can turn on the TV, the radio or talk to people around me....they're on the wrong side of history about EVERYTHING - why bother?
Fumesucker
(45,851 posts)My train of thought has moved on a few light years in five minutes.
Talk about a wet blanket.
Ms. Toad
(33,915 posts)Once it is clear you aren't plastering ads all over the place, the 5 minute restriction vanishes.
bigwillq
(72,790 posts)I waste enough time on DU and other internet sites.
Gothmog
(144,005 posts)The conservatives are not that bright and rely on talking points instead of facts or logic. It is really sad.
Reter
(2,188 posts)For those of us in the dark about this "toy."
steve2470
(37,457 posts)Trajan
(19,089 posts)WHY oh why would I care WTF right wingers have to say ? .... I've heard it before, and I have zero need to either give them a platform or waste my precious time listening/watching them endlessly bloviate ...
I simply have better things to do ....
Bluenorthwest
(45,319 posts)tools and platforms and assistance, they wish to have a relationship, even a dependence on bigoted, hateful people who would gladly see may of us dead.
What a person creates is what a person is.
Gormy Cuss
(30,884 posts)Lots of users quickly, lots of posts, lots of ideological differences, juries taking out a little bit of the trash just as they do here.
I don't know if I'll sign up for it though. There are plenty of other unmoderated places like it and Skinner did warn that if one hates the jury system....well, I don't hate it but it's an ineffectual tool for keeping the discussion civil here and for that reason I doubt that I'd like posting there. The threads I've read are full of snark and lighter in content than the typical DU thread. Eh, could change my mind later.
I've seen several posters here suggest that the worst troll/disruptor type will go to discussionist and leave DU alone but I think that it's more likely that those who like to behave badly here will continue to do so AND post disruptively on discussionist.
I do hope though that admin, having created a space where right wing viewpoints are acceptable, will finally claw back the TOS here to conform a bit more closely to center-left Democratic viewpoints.
steve2470
(37,457 posts)BainsBane
(53,003 posts)than the rest of us on DU. Naturally doesn't believe HOF members are real feminists either.
NuclearDem
(16,184 posts)Look, these groups are already getting rather pushy in various parts of Europe. It's just a matter of time until they do the same over here.
greatauntoftriplets
(175,698 posts)Renew Deal
(81,802 posts)steve2470
(37,457 posts)Paladin
(28,204 posts)Le Taz Hot
(22,271 posts)So far, it's exactly what I expected. Right wing trolls who are barely literate and haven't the ability to maintain a logical thought process, hence, Talking Points from Faux Nooz.
I saw a huge 9/11 truther thread over there. People talking about "official stories" not adding up and spamming dumbass youtube videos.
lol
ProudToBeBlueInRhody
(16,399 posts)I have enough fun with the righties on the non-political forums I frequent who can't go a day without "Obama this" or "PelosiReid that".
Cali_Democrat
(30,439 posts)Number23
(24,544 posts)racist is actually far, FAR worse than his actually BEING a racist?!
Cali_Democrat
(30,439 posts)....at this point pretty much all of the folks posting there are current DUers who have been posting here for years.
That place allows them to show their true colors.
ecstatic
(32,567 posts)Fearless
(18,421 posts)I'm waiting for the flat-Earthers to come out to play.
defacto7
(13,485 posts)I have found it hard to lurk around there for 10 minutes without getting rather bored. I have only posted maybe 5 times and can't yet get the impetus to participate much.
Maybe as it finds it's niche it will make some sense. But I find it a bit trite so far.
Warpy
(110,913 posts)Should I ever go there, you'll all know me by a new sig line: "Great minds discuss ideas. Average minds discuss events. Small minds discuss people." -- Eleanor Roosevelt.
davidpdx
(22,000 posts)Won't bother.....
Capt. Obvious
(9,002 posts)It seems to move at a quicker pace than here. I enjoy that aspect.
Romulox
(25,960 posts)I'll register if/when I can think of a killer name!
Phentex
(16,330 posts)I don't want this one.
riqster
(13,986 posts)It's a place to get answers.
pipi_k
(21,020 posts)If ya want answers, ask the people who can give them...not a bunch of people who are going to sit around giving their opinions on why a particular group thinks/says/does something.
PS...that's one of the reasons why I like it, BTW. Different perspectives, and for the most part just as civil (or not) as here.
seaglass
(8,170 posts),we know them.
Cool. Awesome.
I have friends and family who are Republicans/Conservatives also
I would never presume to speak for them, though
Just the same as if my Republican friends and family thought they have the right to speak for me because they "know" me. Sorry, but that doesn't fly
I don't want to hear the whats, whys, and wherefores except from the people who can tell me what's in their own heads
seaglass
(8,170 posts)than friends and family. I don't speak for my friends and family, they speak for themselves.
XRubicon
(2,212 posts)I don't want anyone to associate me with that.
I have been over there and I like rebutting their posts.
winter is coming
(11,785 posts)'cause it's got a lot of cool stories in it.
XRubicon
(2,212 posts)yewberry
(6,530 posts)The biggest problem I have: the 'scamdy' people. I can't understand how they can show their faces, but there they are. These are some truly awful people, and there they are, scampering around with a bunch of people who probably have no idea who they are. I have a moral problem with them.
The misogyny. I know there are a lot of people who have issues with feminists at DU, but dang, that place can be truly off-putting. Even right off the bat, people starting swinging against feminists and feminism. And many of those were DUers. So yuck there.
The intellectual dishonesty. I keep seeing people post ridiculous things meant as 'gotcha' posts against liberals, and if you go to the trouble of pointing out what is wrong with the 'gotcha,' they completely ignore you.
So in short: probably not the best place for me.