Elizabeth Warren again today: “I’m not running for president.”

[Cali_Democrat]

By David Catanese
May 22, 2014
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After delivering a 13-minute speech at the liberal gathering that blasted the malfeasance of America’s big banks and outlined a list of progressive values she champions, Warren opened up the floor to questions.

But the first man who stood up instead made a request.

“Your ideas and the ideas of Bernie Sanders continue to be brought to the American people and you should join together to run for the Democratic nomination,” said Ray Donaldson, a retired IBM employee, who was primely positioned in the front row to make his plea.



After waiting for the yelps and applause to wind down, Warren told Donaldson she appreciated the thought, but issued the familiar response she’ll be forced to utter countless more times until 2016: “I’m not running for president.”

http://www.usnews.com/news/blogs/run-2016/2014/05/22/elizabeth-warren-cant-avoid-the-2016-question


Elizabeth Warren admits to signing letter urging Hillary to run:

Sen. Elizabeth Warren says she hopes Hillary Rodham Clinton runs for president in 2016 — the latest in a series of declarations of support by the Massachusetts Democrat, who some have speculated could seek the Oval Office herself.

"All all of the women — Democratic women I should say — of the Senate urged Hillary Clinton to run, and I hope she does. Hillary is terrific," Warren said during an interview broadcast Sunday on ABC's "This Week," noting that she was one of several senators to sign a letter urging Clinton to run in 2016.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-politics/wp/2014/04/27/elizabeth-warren-i-hope-hillary-clinton-runs-for-president/

[sheshe2]

1. Ooooh nooooos!

What will the EW for President supporters do!

Understand that I fully support my Senator Warren. Just like Teddy did, she will do amazing things in the Senate. She is in her element, and she knows that. She is on fire!

Thanks C_D!

[scarletwoman]

8. WTF? Why would they need to "do" anything?

If they want to promote Warren for President, what harm does that do? Why shouldn't they, if that's what they want to do?

NO Democrat has declared their candidacy for the 2016 presidential race at this time. Why mock anyone for naming their preference at this stage of the game?

[brooklynite]

13. I don't mock anyone's hope that Warren runs...

I mock their laziness in not making any effort to convince her (or anyone else) to tun.

[scarletwoman]

17. Isn't it a bit early to accuse anyone of "laziness" in regard to the 2016 election?

We still have the 2014 midterm elections to worry about.

To be honest, your reply doesn't make any sense to me. Maybe you could explain what you mean.

[brooklynite]

24. No, considering I reached out to Brian Schweitzer in 2012...and to "Ready for Hillary" in 2013

...which didn't stop me from working to support a raft of candidates for 2014.

Imagine for example if the time spent replying to this OP had been spend writing an actual letter to Elizabeth Warren.....

[MADem]

27. They like to get mad at/goad/bait/those who have taken EW at her word.

When she tells her constituents that she will finish her term, as she has done several times, when she says she's not running, as she's done dozens of times, and her constituents believe her, it's a little trollish when people continue to shop the theme that she's playing some super-secret bullshit game and is going to tell those of us who worked so hard to put her in office "Ah ha! Fuck you! Find another Senator--you've only had how many in the last three or four years, now?"

It's like musical chairs up in the Bay State, you know, and we like stability when our political delegation is performing well.

Why would anyone want to try to make a liar out of EW with those kinds of statements?

[VanillaRhapsody]

32. because it is pissing her off....you can tell by the tone...she is so done with being asked that

question over and over when she has said so very vehemently that she is not interested....

[ChisolmTrailDem]

78. DU, by a huge margin, want Elizabeth Warren as our candidate. nt

[Autumn]

101. Love her, I understand her not running now, but Bernie says he will run.

[MineralMan]

2. No denial will be enough, I'm afraid.

Until the first primaries are over, some will continue to insist that Warren is running. I'm resigned to it. I wish she would, but do not think she will.

[krawhitham]

12. How many times did HRC say she would not run again after 2008?

No denial will be enough, I'm afraid.

[VanillaRhapsody]

33. So Elizabeth Warren is only as honest as Hillary Clinton?

[scarletwoman]

19. I haven't seen anyone "insist" that Warren is running. I've only seen people wishing/hoping

that she will run. There's a difference.

And I see nothing wrong with wishing/hoping that she will run.

Since there are exactly ZERO declared Dem candidates for the 2016 presidential election, what the hell difference does it make at this point in time for people to express their desire for ANY particular person to run?

[Vattel]

26. It is weird how passionate people are about defending the claim that she won't run.

Yesterday I was told that I should leave poor Warren alone because she obviously doesn't want to run and is tired of being urged to run.

[VanillaRhapsody]

34. Yes exactly....

You can tell quite plainly that she is tired of being asked that question.....it distracts from the real work she is trying to do...

[MannyGoldstein]

28. It's entertaining and strange

They really, really need for us to know that she's not going to run. So don't even think about it, OK?

[VanillaRhapsody]

35. apparently SHE needs you to really really know she is not going to run

she has repeatedly and vehemently said so...and it is painfully obvious she is annoyed at being asked over and over...

[bravenak]

3. There are quite a few people who are not going to believe her.

She'll have to announce it every few days for the next year.
Then they'll probably just start a write in campaign.
I find it strange that she has to keep saying it over and over.

[MannyGoldstein]

29. But it's pretty cool that after only a year in office, so many are asking the question

And it's weird that nobody believed Hillary when she said, a dozen times, that *she* wasn't running.

[bravenak]

31. I'm voting for whomever you guys pick in the primary. I never can decide.

I prefer EW to Hillary but i believe her when she says she's not running.

Why don't you all start a superpac and raise money to encourage her to run? If you raise enough maybe she will do it. Just in case Hillary decides not to go for it.

[VanillaRhapsody]

37. So you too join the camp that doesn't think Elizabeth Warren is any more honest than Hillary...

check! Good to know where you stand on EW's integrity!

[MannyGoldstein]

49. Do me a solid?

Give me a heads up when EW recalls her brush with deadly Bosnian snipers.

[VanillaRhapsody]

50. that's the best you got?

wow....its really getting hard out there for a comedian isn't it Manny?

[snooper2]

55. Did you get to see the new Pentatonix video yet?

Greatness!

[MannyGoldstein]

75. Now I did.

Edgy acapella. Good stuff.

[trublu992]

4. Damn! that's a bitter pill to swallow

[Cha]

5. I trust Elizabeth Warren and take her at her word.. thank you, Cali.

[krawhitham]

15. Yep, she is not currently running for President

[Cha]

18. I think EW means in 2016.

[VanillaRhapsody]

38. You added the word "currently" she didn't use a qualifier...YOU did!

[Whisp]

6. It's too early for anyone to declare.

That doesn't make them liars.
The campaign season is too long as it is, why start it earlier than it has to be.

Anyway, there is always a chance for minds to be changed and I don't think it's out of the question Warren won't change hers.

I like the fact she is being asked this so often, says a lot. I would love that she be in the primaries and the debates - that would be instructive to the American audience to say the least and destructive to the status quo.

[VanillaRhapsody]

39. but she has repeatedly and with much disdain for being asked over and over the same question...

[Whisp]

42. We will eventually see what is to see

[VanillaRhapsody]

44. and some will discover that others were right all along!

[Whisp]

46. I have no shame in being wrong once in a while.

but we will see. I have not been proven that just yet.

[VanillaRhapsody]

51. apparently yes you have as she has repeatedly said she is NOT running for President

while everyone else including Bernie Sanders are at least thinking about it...

[Whisp]

53. Time is on my side, Van. We will see what is to see.

Que Sera Sera

[VanillaRhapsody]

54. No time is NOT on your side.....

time is slowly running out...

I trust her to know her self....and believe she is honest.

for the life of me I don't know why you don't....

[Whisp]

56. Things aren't always what they appear to be.

Especially in the political world.

[SQUEE]

105. I believe her.

Tragically and sadly. I believe she is not going to run in '16.

Hillary will, and will win and in '24 when Elizabeth does run it will be to take the reigns on a shattered nation, we are so far gone now to the banks and monied interests, and HRC will do nothing to stop that , in fact I believe she will be beholden to them.
I think this truly may be the last chance the people of America have to save ourselves, and I am a little angry she is not going to be there, in charge and leading this fight, but I guess I have to respect a woman that puts her state over her country and it's people.

[ChangeUp106]

7. I'm one of those "EW supporters"

and I don't think she is running. However, as someone who watches way too many of her interviews, her tone has changed on the question. Last year it was all-out denial. Now it's "I hope Hillary runs" and "I'm not running for President" (present tense) and "I'm focused on the current fight."

Still don't think she'll run but I will not stop encouraging her to run and encouraging others to support her.

[VanillaRhapsody]

40. that's good because like you ...Elizabeth Warren has been encouraging Hillary Clinton to run!

[99Forever]

9. Has ANYONE of substance announced that they are running yet?

Maybe, just maybe, it's too early?


And I still won't support or vote for Hillary, even if Senator Warren doesn't run. Period.

[VanillaRhapsody]

41. but the rest have said "they haven't made up their minds"

unlike EW who has quite plainly stated that she is NOT.

[davidpdx]

64. +1

I haven't decided who I'll vote for, but it is too early. I won't vote for or support Clinton in the primary

[Laelth]

10. k&r for Elizabeth Warren. n/t

-Laelth

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

11. Too bad. Politics as usual. But, it opens the door for Sanders.

[struggle4progress]

14. This is so confusing! She really ought to make up her mind!

First she says, I’m not running for president. Then she says, I’m not running for president. Next she says, I’m not running for president. One day, she's saying, I’m not running for president, but the following day she'll say, I’m not running for president. She even changes her mind repeatedly in a single interview: I saw her tell one guy, I’m not running for president, but just a moment later she said, I’m not running for president, and a minute after that, it was suddenly, I’m not running for president. It makes my head spin: is she running or isn't she? Some consistency here would be nice

[VanillaRhapsody]

45. ^^^^ This!!!

[Jamaal510]

47. ...

[Beacool]

59. This...........

But to her supporters, denial ain't just a river in Egypt.

[yuiyoshida]

60. Yes, THIS!

[Tarheel_Dem]

66. !!!

[Cali_Democrat]

70. LOL!!!

[BlueCaliDem]

77. ^^^This!^^^ times 1,000,000!

[hrmjustin]

79. Bingo!

[FrodosPet]

82. It's all about the tense

"I'm not running for President" is not the same as saying "I promise that I will not run for President of the United States of America in 2016".

It just means she is not, right this instant, running for President. It does not exclude her from announcing this afternoon "After the outpouring of support, I wish to announce my candidacy for President of the United States".

Politics is all about nuance! Learning and utilizing the loopholes and literalisms of language in a politically advantageous way.

And the supporting Hillary thing - that is a nice diversion!

BTW: For the benefit of the humor impaired -

[treestar]

84. LOL

[sofa king]

16. I sort of wish she would run as well as Mrs. Clinton.

I feel like a truly progressive candidate might have a chance to shift the Democratic Party in that direction during the primary process, something it desperately needs.

It's a 'careful what you wish for' sort of wish, to be sure, for ultraconservatives got that wish in the form of the Tea Party, and they're this close to taking down the GOP for a decade or even forever. I don't know if such a thing could even happen to the Democratic Party, but I sure as hell don't want to find out the hard way, either!

Furthermore, with outside interests able to turn almost any primary into a race-to-the-bottom, possibly beyond the control of the candidates, a serious primary race might quickly devolve into damaging mudslinging between the backers of the two candidates, which would be... unpleasant for us all.

[brooklynite]

25. That would be sort of confusing, since she asked Hillary Clinton to run first...

[G_j]

20. are you a Warren supporter?

I noticed you post about her quite a bit. Maybe we can convince her to run!

[VanillaRhapsody]

43. why would you want to "convince" someone to do something they have said repeatedly that

they don't want to do....

[MannyGoldstein]

21. And I really, really need you to know it.

LOL.

[rhett o rick]

69. You cant get a single one of them to discuss the TPP or fracking but they

all like to reinforce each other and repeat ad nasium that Sen Warren isnt running. It's as if they think that by repeating it enough it will become true. Why do they fear Sen Warren? Is she that big a threat to their precious status quo?

I think H. Clinton will choose Goldman-Sachs as her running mate. I think the SCOTUS ruled that corporations are people and can run for office.

Blue Dogs dont like discussions about NSA spying:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=4987660

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024989941

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024990352

[bigwillq]

22. That's fine. I prefer Warren in the Senate (nt)

[Takket]

23. maybe if the media pesters her enough eventually she will say yes just so they will leave her alone.

[ozone_man]

30. Well, she should run, if not now, soon.

The country needs someone like her, or Bernie Sanders to stand up for the 99%.

[think]

36. If it makes you happy

I'm happy for you.....

[rhett o rick]

48. What is this eight posts about Sen Warren not running? At least you are giving Snowden a break. nm

[Whisp]

52. Que Sera Sera

[DonCoquixote]

57. We do not know yet what will happen

and as Obama and Clinton both demonstrate, it is easy to join an election you swore you would never join, especially if the GOP puts forth weak opponents.

We cannot wish Warren would run, we need to put pressure, in addition, whatever good qualities Clinton may have, she will not go left unless she is placed under pressure. Read Huffpo , and you will see the right has already put pressure, not to mention her hubby (he who called Obama a wuss for not going into war)who would probably have us at war with Syria if he had his way.

[Samantha]

58. I have never heard her say she is not running for Vice President ... have you?

Just a thought.

Sam

[tkmorris]

61. OK. Thanks for sharing.

[JDPriestly]

62. Have you read Elizabeth's new book, "A Fighting Chance" yet?

[djean111]

63. I feel like the objective of the many posts informing EW supporters that EW says she is not running

for prez - is hoping that somehow EW supporters will switch allegiance and enthusiasm to Hillary.
Nah. I don't care what EW says, I want someone OTHER than Hillary. I like EW's way of thinking, but there are others who will do.

The "are you calling EW a liar" thingy is getting comical.

[NCTraveler]

65. I would really like to see EW run.

At the same time, I think she is in a great position to make a difference in the Senate. Either way, she is currently a very bright spot in our party.

[Scuba]

67. Amazing how many so-called Democrats are desperate for her not to run.

Why are they so afraid of her?

[morningfog]

68. They are either shills or shit stirrers.

No democrat could honestly oppose her based on her positions.

[treestar]

85. What is to oppose if she isn't running?

[Bobbie Jo]

91. Just who is opposing her here?

What a twisted post.

Link?

[Cali_Democrat]

72. Which Dems said they are desperate for her not to run?

I don't doubt your claims and I consider most people to be honest and that includes YOU. But could you perhaps provide a link to these so-called Dems that said they are desperate for her not to run?

I haven't seen Dems say they are desperate for her not to run, but I don't doubt your claims since I consider you to be an honest poster.

A link is all I ask.

Thank you in advance.

[Scuba]

81. Well, there's Jonathan Cowan and Jim Kessler for two.

By the way, one does not need to overtly state "I'm desperate for her not to run" to show that they feel that way.

[winter is coming]

89. Repeatedly posting "she's NOT running" and "she endorsed Hillary" takes care of that. n/t

[Scuba]

90. Bingo!

[MineralMan]

71. If Elizabeth Warren runs and gets the nomination,

I will vote for her with pleasure.

I encourage anyone who wants to run to run. Apparently, though, Warren doesn't want to run.

I will vote for the Democratic Nominee for President, as I have done every time I have voted for President. The alternatives are not even thinkable. We cannot survive another Republican presidency.

[mylye2222]

73. Sad... but its her choice...

Anyway I am dissapointed because I think she has far more integrity than Hillary Clinton.

[LongTomH]

74. I'll forgive EW for endorsing Hillary Clinton!

n/t

[MannyGoldstein]

76. She endorsed Hillary?

When?

[brooklynite]

93. Meet The Press - April 26

Elizabeth Warren: I hope Hillary Clinton runs for president

Sen. Elizabeth Warren says she hopes Hillary Rodham Clinton runs for president in 2016 — the latest in a series of declarations of support by the Massachusetts Democrat, who some have speculated could seek the Oval Office herself.

"All all of the women — Democratic women I should say — of the Senate urged Hillary Clinton to run, and I hope she does. Hillary is terrific," Warren said during an interview broadcast Sunday on ABC's "This Week," noting that she was one of several senators to sign a letter urging Clinton to run in 2016.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-politics/wp/2014/04/27/elizabeth-warren-i-hope-hillary-clinton-runs-for-president/

But you knew that, didn't you?

[hrmjustin]

80. I don't think she wants to run. Campaigns can be brutal and she probably doesn't want it.

[LWolf]

83. You seem obsessed with this. Why? nt

[treestar]

86. What's wrong with being obsessed?

Some people get interested in an issue.

[LWolf]

87. Interest is fine.

Obsession can be unhealthy.

[treestar]

92. It's still ad hominem

and not about the issue. Which is whether or not EW is running for POTUS. Which she said again she is not.

[LWolf]

94. Noting and commenting on a pattern

is not ad hominem.

Whether or not ANYONE is running for POTUS, 2 years before the primaries, is of interest, but is not exactly an immediate priority. For those who are not obsessed, anyway.

But thanks for your concern.

[deutsey]

88. Seriously.

Into the trash this goes.

[Armstead]

95. It's a very familiar political tradition

She may or may not ultimately decide to run.

Most candidates, regardless of ideology, say they are not running, until one day they say they are, or re "exploring the options."

That's especially true for those who catch people's interest for some reason.

President Obama did it for a long time too.

Sometimes it is that they really don't plan to run. Other times it's because they don't know, or are waiting to see what the field looks like. Sometimes it's reluctance because that's when the microscope comes out. Also there are legal implications to declaring a candidacy.

Basically at this point, all statements by potential candidates are meaningless, unless they actually declare their candidacy or say, "Yes I'm seriously thinking of it."

[brooklynite]

96. Except when you publicly support someone else....

Despite the attempts by some anti-Hillary people here to twist the meaning of her comments, Warren has acknowledged that she signed a letter urging Hillary Clinton to run, and said she thought Clinton would make a great President. Add to that the fact that, while she doesn't need to formally announce this early, it's necessary to start laying the groundwork for fundraising (hint - she's not; I know her chief fundraiser) and reaching out for political support (hint - she's not paying visits to NH, Iowa, etc.).

[Armstead]

97. Maybe she isn't, dunno....I'm just saying this premature reading of tea leaves is kinda silly

I can see why people for her want to press for her to run, just as they are pressing Bernie to run, just as supporters of peopel they want to run have done from time immemorial.

I'll take her at her word unless things change down the road -- which they often do.

And i'm hoping the repetitive "She isn't running" isn't just a way of saying "Abandon all hope ye who don't want Hillary."

[brooklynite]

99. It's not, from my point of view...

...perhaps it's providing a defense for the day when (highly likely) Clinton runs and (highly likely) Warren doesn't. I don't want a lot of yelling that "they" kept Warren from running, when nobody apparently read the tea leaves and tried to get another acceptable candidate to run in her place.

[Armstead]

100. Theres always a bandwagon going on

Personally I'd love to see Sherrod Brown, Tom Harkin, Barbara Lee and any number of other liberal/progressive Democrats run. But it aint gonna happen for a number of reasons.

Right now Warren has the "stuff" that makes her attractive to many peopke (including me). And, to be honest, the thought of another Era of Clinton/DLC/corporate centrism as the only choice is very depressing to contemplate. (Only thing more depressing is GOP dominance.)

So there's a dilemma for people that want a reasonable alternative to the same old shit. And people are understandably grasping at straws.

[brooklynite]

102. The problem is that they're "not" grasping...

"Ready for Hillary" is a movement by "real" Democrats who want Clinton to run (I know; I'm a member). Unfortunately there isn't a "Ready for Elizabeth" movement. And as far as I can tell, none of the people pining for Warren are doing a thing to convince her to change her mind or to propel someone else into the race.

[Armstead]

103. People HAVE been trying to convince her to run. Please don't claim people are not trying.

Unfortunately there is not a clique of members of Goldman Sachs and Citi to offer her, or some other progressive candidate, a big checkbook and entrenched network of insider power players.

Personally, I mentioned several people who i would personally love to see as president, and I could come up with more. But for various reasons they are would have a difficult time, or clearly aren't thinking in that direction.

It is quite possible that circumstances will present us with More of the Same yet again in the next go round.

But please don't be dismissive of the efforts of those who are sincerely looking for and working to change the Corporate gridlock that is keeping the Democratic Party and the nation stuck in the grip of the Monopolistic Oligarchs and the 1 Percenters.

[brooklynite]

104. Show me where I'm wrong...

...If there's an organization people can join (whether or not it has big bucks behind it), you should be ready to spread the news to encourage others. I've been perfectly happy to announce my efforts, but I don't seem to notice anyone else doing the same.

[Lil Missy]

98. And heads again explode on DU. n/t