Are there any more details on the three young men stabbed inside Elliot's apartment?

[Cali_Democrat]

Ive read a lot about the people he shot, but it seems details are lacking when it comes to the crime scene at the apartment.

The cops seem to think Elliot killed them all with a sharp object.

From what I've seen and read, Elliot was small in stature and didn't appear to look very strong.

Anyone find it a bit hard to believe that he could stab three young men to death like that?

Apparently the neighbors heard absolutely nothing.

[Liberal_in_LA]

1. names and ages posted. students at ucsb. asian, teenagers

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

2. According to the NYT:

They were his roommates, Cheng Yuan Hong, 20, and George Chen, 19, both of San Jose, and Weiham Wang, 20, apparently a visitor. http://www.nytimes.com/2014/05/26/us/parents-nightmare-failed-race-to-stop-killings.html?hp

That's all the information I've seen about them so far.

[rustydog]

3. A knife is a good killing instrument

I've dealt with angry people with edged weapons. You do not need to be big or skilled. you just have to keep stabbing.

[1000words]

4. For the sake of consistency ...

We can't rule out hatred of men as a motive.

[lunasun]

8. actually..His postings include rants against interracial dating + black, Asian and Indian men......

http://sync.democraticunderground.com/101693896

[redqueen]

9. Racism and misogyny very often go hand in hand. nt

[theHandpuppet]

12. Most definitely.

You can add homophobia to that as well.

[LisaL]

22. Ironically he was biracial himself.

[lunasun]

24. Yes he killed 3 Asians at his place He is part Chinese. He wrote

that he found his roommates repulsive.
He also wrote in disgust about how he could not figure out why (his idea of "hot&quot blonde white ladies would go for Asian men( but not in ref to his roommates though)

[wercal]

29. This is the second time I have read that he is part Chinese

But other sources say his mother is Malaysian.

One example:

http://dailyentertainmentnews.com/breaking-news/lichin-chin-rodger-santa-barbara-killer-elliot-rodgers-mother/

There is also a wiki page and a CNN article that list her as not only being born in Malaysia, but being of Malaysian decent.

I don't know if that matters, or if Malaysians have any particular problem with Chinese.

[Tanuki]

33. There is a substantial Hokkien Chinese ethnic group in Malaysia

Based on her maiden name, Ong Li Chin, I would guess that to be the mother's background.

[Sunlei]

39. He went with his Mom to visit her family in Malaysia.

In his own words, here is his life story & plans for murders-suicide. It's very long, like a book about 100? pages, & you can see him go off the edge at the end. He was an extremely disturbed person but a decent writer.

http://www.scribd.com/doc/225960813/Elliot-Rodger-Santa-Barbara-mass-shooting-suspect-My-Twisted-World-manifesto

[malaise]

40. There are thousands of Malay-Chinese n/t

[lunasun]

41. She was Chinese descent born in Malay asia but he had hate for Asians per his rant

Rodger, who was Eurasian, wrote in his manifesto that being mixed race made him "different from the normal fully white kids"
On one online forum, Rodger stated that he opposed interracial dating and made several racist posts regarding African American, Hispanic, South Asian, and East Asian peoples, stating that seeing men of these ethnic groups socializing with white women "makes you want to quit life

Full Asian men are disgustingly ugly and white girls would never go for you. You're just butt hurt that you were born as an asian piece of shit, so you lash out by linking these fake pictures. You even admit that you wish you were half white. You'll never be half-white and you'll never fulfill your dream of marrying a white woman. I suggest you jump off a bridge

Further, in his manifesto, Rodger wrote:

How could an inferior, ugly black boy be able to get a white girl and not me? I am beautiful, and I am half white myself. I am descended from British aristocracy. He is descended from slaves!!!!!!:

[IronLionZion]

38. This person was just burning in hatred for everyone nt

[Katashi_itto]

5. Taking three people out with a knife at close quarters is no problem.

You don't even have to be highly skilled, just determined.

[Hekate]

18. 'Tis not so deep as a well, nor so wide as a church door, but 'tis enough...

Ask for me tomorrow and you will find me a grave man.

~~Romeo and Juliet, the stabbing death of Mercutio~~

[Katashi_itto]

23. Nice Quote!

[treestar]

6. Same here, very curious about that

Did he get them one at a time? He mentioned luring people to his apartment.

[gvstn]

7. I'll just add that

Last edited Mon May 26, 2014, 12:00 AM - Edit history (1)

His apartment was apparently an Independent Living Skills facility so his roommates may not have been very quick to react if they were occupied by something else.

Elliot Rodger was living with roommates at the Independent Living Institute in Santa Barbara, a facility that offers 'living skills instruction to help adults with disabilities to live more independently in their communities,' according to the website.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2639177/Parents-shooter-read-manifesto-driving-stop-son-heard-massacre-radio-revealed-investigators-search-moms-house.html#ixzz32mmOBHXn

The 22-year-0ld was living with them at the Independent Living Institute in Santa Barbara, according to CBS. According to the site, it “serves handicapped, developmentally delayed, and under-educated individuals in the areas of independent living, academics and vocational skills.”

http://hollywoodlife.com/2014/05/25/elliot-rodger-roommates-names-police-identify/

UPDATE: The above may be incorrect information. This link quotes the sheriff's spokesperson saying that he lived it what appears a regular apartment. http://www.noozhawk.com/article/names_of_last_3_victims_in_isla_vista_rampage_released_20140525?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter That information comports with the fact that CNN interviewed one of his neighbors and it sounded like they may have lived in the same apartment complex mostly occupied by students.

[theHandpuppet]

10. How awful

I grieve for the families of these young men. What a senseless tragedy.

[Ilsa]

11. Oh shit. He murdered disabled adults.

God, I can't even think about this right now.

[LisaL]

21. They were not disabled.

He murdered his roommates who were college students. Not disabled.

[Cali_Democrat]

13. OMG

Awful.

[Abq_Sarah]

19. I'm not sure where they're getting that information

He was living at the Capri Apartments at Isla Vista. They rent out furnished apartments to college students. His two roommates were students at UCSB.

[LibDemAlways]

27. The Capri Apartments are regular apartments a few

blocks from UCSB. My daughter is familiar with the layout of the apartments there and tells me that each unit has one large bedroom big enough to accommodate up to three tenants and a second small bedroom that can accommodate just one. That was no doubt Rodger's room.

[TDale313]

14. So very horrible.

My heart truly goes out to everyone touched by this tragedy.

[ecstatic]

15. My guess is they were either sleeping or he drugged them? There's

no other way I can imagine him pulling that off.

[JJChambers]

16. Edged weapons are far more lethal than most people realize

It's why police so frequently are forced to shoot people armed with blades.

[Abq_Sarah]

20. The police aren't saying

But in his "screed", he mentioned his plan to stab them to death as they slept.

[Lee-Lee]

25. It's quite scary what a determined person with a knife can do

Look at some life attack drill videos on YouTube.

[Jesus Malverde]

17. From the bay area

http://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/article/Three-victims-in-Santa-Barbara-rampage-from-Bay-5504239.php

[SevenSixtyTwo]

26. They weren't disabled.

They were defenseless as is required by California law.

[dhill926]

28. spare me this shit….

[arcane1]

30. What the hell is that supposed to mean?

Hyperbolic much?

[Comrade Grumpy]

31. The Gungeon is that-a-way, pardner.

[stevenleser]

32. A gun on your nighttable wont help if your roommate stabs you to death while you sleep

That assumes you don't secure your weapon when you aren't using it.

[arcane1]

34. They think they're so clever, don't they? But couldn't be more transparent.

"Disarmed" by California law, yet the killer bought his guns legally. This poster is clueless and intentionally obtuse.

[SevenSixtyTwo]

37. Are you saying the college students who were stabbed

could have been legally armed on campus and in their dorms?

[Cali_Democrat]

42. They didn't live on campus

They were in an off-campus apartment.

Shows how much you know.....

[SevenSixtyTwo]

43. Oh.

Then they chose to be defenseless. Things like this are so rare it's pointless to be prepared.

[stevenleser]

44. Most pro-gun arguments are pretty pathetic and vapid

You're right, this one is particularly bad.

[IronLionZion]

35. The killer's guns were delivered by a flying pink unicorn? nt

[IronLionZion]

36. Sounds like this disturbed individual hated everybody including himself nt