Neighbor: "banged up" Zimmerman had bandages on his nose & back of his head and "lumps on his face"

[Amerigo Vespucci]

A man who lives in the Retreat at Twin Lakes Sanford Community where George Zimmerman lives and where 17-year old Trayvon Martin was killed, talked exclusively to FOX35 Friday about what he saw on Zimmerman's face less than 24-hours after the shooting.

"I saw George, he was banged up," he said.

The man, who didn't want his identity revealed, said he saw bandages on Zimmerman's nose and on the back of his head and well as lumps on his face.

He told FOX35 he hasn't been able to sleep knowing that people in America are portraying Zimmerman as a racist and a murderer who suffered no injuries. "I believe you have the right to pull the trigger if you feel like your life is on the line and after seeing George's face the next day, I believe his life was on the line," he said.

http://www.myfoxorlando.com/dpp/news/local/033112-George-Zimmerman's-neighbor-describes-his-injuries

[Ruby the Liberal]

1. Maybe Sanford PD beat the crap out of him.

Do these people not have access to the video? I mean, it was only on EVERY national media outlet for 2 days.

[Cali_Democrat]

11. What's even crazier:

Around the same time the police video came out, you had Zimmerman's brother saying he was beaten nearly unconscious as his head was banged on the concrete again and again. Yet 35 minutes later, he was walking around the police station like nothing was wrong.

[Ruby the Liberal]

22. I know - that is what is so bizarre about all of this.

Its like all the ZimmerPeople live in a cocoon and only come into the daylight to do interviews, with no grasp on what has already aired on the same channel(s) they are talking with.

ZimmerDad on the whole "Trayvon wasn't on the phone with his girlfriend" -- days after the phone records were confirmed.

ZimmerJoe on "fucking coon" really being a term of endearment (often whispered in subdued tones before one takes off with a loaded gun to catch a "perp&quot -- after a gazillion sound experts tore into the audio to localize the voice track.

ZimmerLawyer and ZimmerBrother all on about how bad the injuries were -- AFTER the videos were released and aired.

Maybe these folks all need to subscribe to the local fishwrap so that they know what everyone else knows before the keep shooting off from the hip.

[left on green only]

41. Sounds like they are all taking lying lessons from "Mittens"

[uponit7771]

42. Don't think many people would be shocked or suprised if this was the case

[Ecumenist]

2. So, he removed them and the lumps disappeared in 35 MINUTES!!??

These liars need to quit, it's only making them look more and more stupid. Even if his life was on the line, it was because he out it there by confronting and threatening an unarmed innocent AMERICAN citizen.

[Cirque du So-What]

3. How much did they pay THIS clown?!?

Weren't getting their money's worth from Zimmerman's 'black friend,' so they bought this guy instead. A fool & his money, etc.

[Ian David]

4. An un-named man on Fox. I'm convinced.

[Blue_Tires]

76. Yeah, I'm getting pretty sick of the 1000th "unnamed neighbor" (how big is that neighborhood?)

Enough time has passed that the Orlando media need to stop running this shit...Either go on the record or it didn't happen...

[madaboutharry]

5. Can't wait to see this witness under cross examination.

[GreatCaesarsGhost]

6. what a crock of caca

[nadinbrzezinski]

7. Don't jive with police tape.

[Alenne]

8. Is this Frank Taffe?

People didn't believe him the first time so he's going in anonymously this time? I'm still not buying it.

[Cali_Democrat]

9. Frank Taffe immediately came to my mind as well

It looks like he's gone anonymous.

[alcibiades_mystery]

10. Bottom line: bullshit

This guy is lying. There's no way the guy on that video was "banged up" the next day.

[Amerigo Vespucci]

13. Makes me think of the famous / infamous scene in "Dirty Harry"...

...the killer pays a guy to punch the crap out of him so he can claim that it was done by Harry.

The EMTs took one look at Zimmerman and CANCELLED the second abmulance that had been called for (I posted a thread on this in GD earlier today).

Couple that with the police station video and you have the double debunking of a damned LIE.

[alcibiades_mystery]

16. Who you gonna believe: anonymous Fox News "neighbor"

Or your lyin' eyes?



These fucking racist assholes have lied to us non-stop for a week, attacking the victim all the while, and appealing to the most racist beliefs people hold. They're going to have to do better than an anonymous neighbor at this point.

[Initech]

50. There's photographic evidence that proves otherwise!!!!

[jmowreader]

12. Okay, I can kinda see it...

After Zimmerman was released by the cops, he went to a bar, downed a six pack, found some guy who looks like Sonny Barger and told him his mother was a hampster and his father smelt of elderberries. Sonny Barger clone beats the shit out of him, bartender puts band-aids on Zimmerman's nose and the back of his head, Zimmerman went home and made sure his neighbor sees him.

Which is about as believable as anything else you'll see on Faux News.

[Amerigo Vespucci]

14. You read my mind

Look right above your post.

I was typing mine while you were typing yours.

[Bennyboy]

15. The Neighborhood association is in deep doo doo...

for having Zim anywhere involved with them. So they gotta talk it back.

[Quixote1818]

17. If the Fire Department didn't dress the wounds at the spot with bandages

Why did he decide he needed them the next day? Sounds like George decided to make himself look beat up for pity and to convince people like this guy he was the victim.

[butterfly77]

18. He's lying...

and I believe the police are lying too,at this point they are making up shit throwing anything out there..

[fascisthunter]

19. surrrre... the rest of the country know you are political driven bigoted fanatics

You are our own nazis...

[johnnie]

20. Whoa whoa whoa

This has to be bullshit. The DU detective squad has already finished their investigation.

[fascisthunter]

21. awww.... lookie. Zimmerman has a defender

how sweet

[johnnie]

24. I'm not a defender

I am just getting a kick out of all the Columbo wannabes on DU.

[EFerrari]

40. Every major news outlet in the country reported

that Zimmerman looked not only uninjured but like he hadn't been in any kind of a fight in that police video. It doesn't take Colombo to observe the obvious.

[slampoet]

25. Sorry it didn't take less than 150 minutes like Sanford.

[alcibiades_mystery]

27. I believe the detective there though Zimmerman's story was bullshit, too

But the Zimmerman Fan Club prefers their own kooky version, where the dude doesn't have a mark on him 35 minutes later, but looks "banged up" the next day. Says the anonymous source. On Fox News.

Amazing what even liberal posters will allow themselves to believe in order for the black teenager to have been in the wrong.

[johnnie]

30. From what I've heard, there was at least one person on the force that wanted Zimmerman arrested

And who are the Zimmerman fan club? I'm not defending Zimmerman, I'm making fun of the people here on DU who has the whole case solved by using their amazing detective skills that they gained by watching reruns of Law and order and The Andy Griffith show.

[vaberella]

71. Hardly. Majority of DU just see enough evidence to suggest there should be a trial.

Further more, the posters here are ridiculing various witnesses who corroborate Zimmerman's claims, while the video footage at the police department...says something entirely different.

Unless your suggesting that we're all liars but this witness who is saying something that is an entire 180 from the video is telling the truth? I think DUers and anyone with common sense can see that this witness is most likely not credible. Unless he was confusing Zimmerman for Trayvon.

[johnnie]

28. Hopefully there is a real investigation above Sanford

But you have to admit, the detectives on DU are comedy gold. I saw one person on here who said Zimmerman just HAD to keep following Martin because when the dispatcher told him to stop following him he didn't because you can still hear the wind blowing.

[nadinbrzezinski]

33. I am glad you are enjoying yourself

Sime of us think this upis quite serious.

[johnnie]

36. Huh?

Many many people think this is serious, but you guys have been kind of funny.

[nadinbrzezinski]

52. Yup, we have speculated

On things that later come out to be the case...

Mostly because the story does not fit. Free clue law and order would not produce this episode...not neat and clear for tv.

[JDPriestly]

63. We are trying to make sense of facts that do not make sense.

There should already have been a thorough investigation. I, for one, want to keep discussing this story until the authorities definitively give Trayvon Martin's parents an explanation about what happened to their son that at least makes sense. I think a lot of DUers feel that way, and that is why we keep pointing to discrepancies in and questions we have about Zimmerman's story.

One thing appears to be certain: Trayvon Martin was killed on a path leading behind and between the townhouses in the development, not on a street.

There were no cars on or close to that path. Cars had to be parked somewhere on the street, toward the front of the townhouses. That means that the altercation between Trayvon and Zimmerman took place some distance from Zimmerman's truck. So Zimmerman got out and left his truck to follow Trayvon or to find Trayvon on the path. That is the only way that they could have met.

Therefore, it is most likely that the encounter was initiated by Zimmerman after Zimmerman was told by the 911 operator that the 911 center did not want Zimmerman to follow Trayvon.

We also know from Zimmerman's call to 911 that Zimmerman was concerned that Trayvon would get away. This supports the conclusion that Zimmerman had a motive to follow or try to meet up with or possibly meet or confront Trayvon on the path.

Zimmerman's statements or at least the police reports on them do not make sense in a number of other respects.

I think there is probable cause to try Zimmerman. He deserves a fair trial. I hope the judge will be careful in deciding what evidence should and should not be admitted and that the jury can decide the case only on that evidence. The normal jury instruction, I believe, is that facts learned outside the courtroom are not to be considered.

We could find ultimately that the facts are very different from those that we now know. But if the facts we now know are correct, it seems to me that injustice was done when Zimmerman was not charged. Seems to me that charges and a trial based on all the admissible evidence are appropriate.

[Blue_Tires]

75. uh...He did keep following Martin

that much isn't in dispute...

[uponit7771]

43. You're kiddin right? Thx

[niyad]

47. have you seen the video?

[johnnie]

49. Yes n/t

[Cali_Democrat]

57. Where are the bandages?

[johnnie]

60. What bandages?

I'm not saying Zimmerman isn't full of shit. I'm just saying that DU has proven itself time and time again that they are not as progressive as they think they are. It's a huge circle jerk and a mob mentality. Anyone who tries to discuss anything is a troll if they don't tow the company line. The hatred on here has become sad. I used to think that DU had some great minds, but this Zimmerman/Martin thing was the straw that broke the proverbial camel's back.

I have talked to people "in real life" about this and almost everyone was on the same page. Fuck the media and let's see what happened.

[Cali_Democrat]

61. What bandages? From the article...

The man, who didn't want his identity revealed, said he saw bandages on Zimmerman's nose and on the back of his head and well as lumps on his face

Those bandages. Why aren't they seen in the police surveillance tape released a few days ago?

[shimonitanegi]

62. but...

Had it not been for the media, you wouldn't even know about this shooting.
Maybe you're right that the Media should not have covered this story for not to bother Mr. Zimmerman since the police already accepted his self-defense story.

[Blue_Tires]

78. So wanting justice is "hatred, circle jerk mob mentality"...Got it

Go to the yahoo forums if you want to openly promote Zimmerman's unquestioned innocence with no fear of criticism...

And what do you think happened? Since you're standing so far from the "company line?"

[Blue_Tires]

77. Right now it looks like DU are the only people doing ANY investigating...

Florida authorities are sure taking their sweet time...

[FLAprogressive]

23. Did he say this before that tape came out?

[Amerigo Vespucci]

26. The story was published today, and the article says...

A man who lives in the Retreat at Twin Lakes Sanford Community where George Zimmerman lives and where 17-year old Trayvon Martin was killed, talked exclusively to FOX35 Friday about what he saw on Zimmerman's face less than 24-hours after the shooting.

...so the interview came out after the tape.

Of course, he also says...

He told FOX35 he hasn't been able to sleep knowing that people in America are portraying Zimmerman as a racist and a murderer who suffered no injuries.

[freshwest]

29. No wonder his story sounds bogus. He hasn't slept for days and he's hallucinating now.

Hey, it happens...

[Politicalboi]

31. The shooting happened Feb 26th

Zimmerman didn't have all this media attention back then, so why would he put any bandages on. He thought he was free and clear. His dad and brother never said before that Trayvon was going for Zimmerman's gun. They are just lying. Zimmerman's dad is behind all this.

[Amerigo Vespucci]

32. He DEFINITELY "coached" the brother prior to his interview

Although I think they might have hored some outside help to come up with the "wearing diapers and being spoon-fed by his brother" line.

[HooptieWagon]

59. Well, the brother was no less convincing

Than the "black friend for hire"

[Amerigo Vespucci]

72. Joe Oliver was obviously a clown and a liar, but...

...the brother told his story as if he wanted you to believe he was there when it happened.

Truth of the matter is that he hasn't seen his brother "in years," according to a number of reports on MSNBC.

So who knows why he got in front of the cameras. Hard to believe it's "brotherly love." Maybe daddy wrote him a check. Maybe he wants to be on an MTV reality show or something.

[JDPriestly]

64. Don't worry about this issue.

Zimmerman's medical records can be brought into evidence.

[spanone]

34. the lies just keep piling up

[Hugabear]

35. Fucking liar

That it was on FOX just proves the fact.

[shimonitanegi]

37. If his story is true

We never know who inflicted the injury because of the police's intended botched job.

[snagglepuss]

38. Have you not seen the tapes of Zimmerman comng out of hte police car

car 35 minutes after the shooting? There are no injuries, no bandages.

[JDPriestly]

65. Zimmerman does not appear dazed in the video.

If he had been severely beaten wouldn't he have been somewhat unsteady, especially if his head had been banged up?

[Aerows]

48. At this point

The only people who think Zimmerman's story is true are people who ate paint chips for a living to prove lead poisoning didn't cause brain defects.

Or people with a vested interest in believing that a person could wrestle in the grass for his life, shoot a man in self defense, and not have a spot of blood on him. If the gun went off accidentally, he needs to say that, but other than that? The rest of Zimmerman's story doesn't add up.

[BeHereNow]

39. Uh... what about the video that showed otherwise?

Perhaps some one beat the crap out of him AFTER they found out what he did?
OR the neighbor is a racist lying dirtbag?

BHN

[rbrnmw]

45. I vote for

the neighbor is a racist lying dirtbag

[BeHereNow]

46. Me too. n/t

bhn

[Amerigo Vespucci]

51. I'll take "Who is a racist lying dirtbag" for $500, Alex.

[BeHereNow]

53. Okay Amerigo Vespucci, "Who is a lying racist dirtbag" for $500?

Congratulations!
"Who is the anonymous neighbor?"
IS correct!
Next category...
"Who is the lying and corrupt News Network reporting on the racist killing in Sanford, Florida"
for $600...

Good luck,
Amerigo Vespucci!

BHN (AKA Alex)

[Aerows]

44. Zimmer --- MAN!

Able to heal from getting his head bashed on the sidewalk, doesn't bleed when his nose is broken

He shoots people from close range in defense but also has no blood on his clothes

Clothes always pristine,

He's ZIMMERMAN!

[krispos42]

54. Um... you can buy bandages anywhere. Literally.

Even vending machines.


If I just murdered a teenager and my lie was he surprised me and was beating me, so I had to shoot him, I'd make damn sure I looked the part the next day.

People fake injuries all time time simply to bilk some cash out of an insurance company or the welfare office. If I was facing a couple of decades in prison, I'd arrange to look bandaged up... especially if the cops told me off the record they didn't want to investigate and would simply cover it up with incompetence or laziness.

Hell, I'd probably have somebody punch me a few times, just so it was real.

[Monk06]

55. Hearsay. Even if this turd revealed his name and offered to testify at a trial

(if there is one), the prosecution would move to have him stricken from
the witness list and any remarks made by him ruled inadmissible.

That's just my Perry Mason law degree talkin

[madokie]

56. He didn't want to be identified tells me all I need to know n/t

[Major Nikon]

58. "I believe you have the right to pull the trigger if you feel like your life is on the line"

First of all, it seems pretty clear that this guy is full of shit, but let's pretend for a moment that he isn't and consider his statement.

Basically what he's saying is that he feels it's OK to stalk someone and confront them for no reason whatsoever, and then when you're getting your ass beat which you so richly deserved in the first place, then it's OK to pull out your gun and kill someone. This is exactly the problem I have with concealed carry laws and shoot first laws. It allows dipshits like Zimmerman to allow their alligator mouth to overload their canary ass, and when the inevitable fight occurs they pull out their gun and someone dies. Then all they have to do is claim self defense, and the law makes it almost impossible to hold them responsible, especially when the only other witness is dead.

[Cali_Democrat]

66. Well said

What makes people like Zimmerman even scarier is that they'll show no hesitation going after kids and gunning them down while hiding behind these same laws.

Truly frightening for parents.

[Major Nikon]

68. It should be frightening to anyone who lives in Florida

Get into an argument with your neighbor, or get into an argument with a person yelling at your kids at the playground, or get drunk and knock on the wrong door, you get shot and the shooters can't be proscecuted and you can't sue. Those are just three stories out of many. People are even using the shoot first law to their advantage in bar fights, road rage, and even gang related shootings.

[JDPriestly]

67. When only criminals have gun, you know a person who has a gun

is a criminal.

Guns are fine in rural areas and shooting ranges.

But I have said this before, I don't want guns in cities.

If Zimmerman had not been carrying a gun, he and Trayvon could have badly hurt each other, but the likelihood that Zimmerman would have shot Trayvon would have been nil. Yes, people can die from a beating, but it is less likely that would have happened.

[EmeraldCityGrl]

69. Joe Oliver's replacement has arrived.

[vaberella]

70. Why do people still talk in the face of video footage?

Just shut the fuck up or you look paid.

[magical thyme]

73. 24 hours later

whereas 5 and 35 minutes later, emt report and video prove no serious or visible injuries.

So maybe he got the crap beaten out of him between 35 minutes and 24 hours later. Could have been the police. Could have been his father who beat the crap out of him.

Either one makes sense, with both motive and opportunity:

He has a record of getting of after assaulting a cop. My understanding is that cops don't take kindly to having one of their own attacked. I can well imagine that seriously rankled at least some of the rank and file.

He has a racist, GOP father who has gotten him off escalating trouble, and he is known to be violent. Violent children are often the product of violent parents. And it's not uncommon for violent parents to protect their spawn to the nth from the outside world, if only to protect their own reputations, even while beating the crap out of the spawn out of sight at home. And then making up a story for where the physical evidence came from with a scapegoat. Which, in this case, dovetails nicely into the father's invented story, allowing him to kill 2 birds with one stone, simultaneously covering up the source of the beating and smearing the victim.

[jwirr]

74. Pictures please? If there are none then it is not evidence.